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Featured How does God view sarcasm? (is it double minded?)

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by friend of, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. friend of

    friend of Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm not going to say that I prided myself on my sarcasm once upon a time ago, but I had my moments. Sarcasm can be entertaining but it can also be perverse and mean spirited at times. I'm wondering if God would view our more benign instances of sarcasm in the same humorous way we view them, or if He would condemn it all the same, as being double-tongued.

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  2. jimmyjimmy

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    Like alcohol, the internet, food, etc., sarcasm can be used improperly. That's doesn't however mean that it is inherently bad.
     
  3. NothingIsImpossible

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    Sarcasm is as you said a double edged sword. My wife REALLY hates that I can be sarcastic. Even though mine is not really mean spirited sarcasm but more of a funny sacrasm. Like when she watches her korean dramas she REALLY loses track of time. So when she is suppose to do something like clean up the bedroom but watches tv instead I will say "I was in the bedroom, wow its looking really good!". Then I laugh. She knows I'm being sarcastic but in a non-mean and shes ok with that.

    Now how does God view sarcasm? I don't know. I'm sure He doesn't mind humor. I imagine if your using to be hurtful, obviously He is not for that. I have had to work on not having a venomous tongue when it comes to sarcasm when I am in public and does something annoying. I know God is not happy when I act like that and it makes me also unhappy.
     
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  4. SeventyOne

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    In what way would it be double-minded?

    I'm thinking it'll be judged based on the intent, just as any other form of speech.
     
  5. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    YHWH views it His Way.

    On earth, amongst people, it is usually evil, motivated by evil, and with evil intent.

    (harmful, pernicious, dragging down as many as possible)
     
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  6. jimmyjimmy

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    Jesus used sarcasm; therefore, it can't be inherently sinful.
     
  7. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    People , on earth,
    are themselves inherently sinful, so everything they do, until (unless) redeemed,
    is inherently sinful.

    even if they "bless" someone, they are sinning, unless they are born again. they cannot keep from sinning.
     
  8. Rubiks

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  9. bettercallpaul

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    Am I the only decent Christian on this thread? :)
    (I'd be lost without sarcasm)
     
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  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    And with sarcasm, where are you ?
    :)
     
  11. HandstoWorkHeartstoGod

    HandstoWorkHeartstoGod New Member

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    I'm not sure if sarcasm is double minded. Perhaps it could be classified as stemming from a prideful spirit. We all need to be so careful with pride. It was the enemy of our souls' first sin and his downfall. Pride has the potential to be my/our downfall too.

    Sarcasm has the potential to bring discouragement to another person. I say potential because it does not cause problems with every person who hears it. However, how do we know which people around us suffer from anxiety or depression? Sarcasm could hit them particularly hard. Encouraging and building up others would seem to be the opposite of this behavior.

    I think Jesus was speaking truth at all times. If he stated someone was a "white-washed tomb" that is exactly what He meant. Christ's words were uncovering hidden motives/the heart in certain individuals/groups. Upon hearing, they had the choice to hate him or do some serious self examination . . . potentially leading to change in individuals and society.
     
  12. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    What does the Bible say about satire and/or sarcasm?

    Question: "What does the Bible say about satire and/or sarcasm?"

    "Answer: Sarcasm is the use of irony (saying one thing while meaning another) or other rhetorical devices in a biting, hurtful way. There is a difference between sarcasm and satire, although they are related. Satire is the use of irony or ridicule to expose foolishness, but without the “bite” of sarcasm. Satire is gentler; sarcasm is more derisive and sneering.

    The question is, is satire or sarcasm ever appropriate? This would be easy enough to resolve if not for the fact that God uses satire in several places in Scripture."
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    Therefore, we can say that irony is fine; irony is a figure of speech that can bring attention and clarity to a situation. Sometimes, irony can be painful because the truth it reveals is convicting. Satire, which uses irony to gently deride and prompt needful change, can be appropriate on occasion; we have examples of satire in Scripture.

    Sarcasm, on the other hand, is not appropriate. Sarcasm has at its core the intent to insult or to be hurtful with no corresponding love or wish for well-being. Instead, the goal of sarcasm is to belittle the victim and elevate the speaker. Jesus warned against such harsh, unloving words in Matthew 5:22. Our words should be helpful and edifying, even if they are uncomfortable to the hearer.

    We should speak the truth with loving intent (Ephesians 4:15), avoiding “foolish talk or coarse joking” (Ephesians 5:4). We should speak in such a way that the hearer will understand our motivation. And we should never be malicious or cruel. Carefully worded irony may be fitting, but malicious sarcasm is not."
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  13. Sketcher

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    God the Father used it in Job 38:5 and 38:21:

    "Who determined its measurements--surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?"

    "You know, for you were born then, and the number of your days is great!"
     
  14. Anto9us

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    I have The Gift of Sarcasm...

    Perhaps when THAT WHICH IS PERFECT has come, it may cease...
     
  15. friend of

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    This is a little embarrassing that I have to ask but... are those quotes really sarcasm? He did come to call the sinners and not thoserve prideful pharisee's who thought they were perfect. I was thinking Matthew 19:4 would be more sarcastic when Jesus says "haven't you read" because he knows that they did read but he was making a statement that they didn't really understand.

    You're a genuinely good dude, Paul.

    Ah okay. I was conflating the two, but it's all good now.

    Anyway yeah, I guess if it's not crude and the audience knows you're just being observationally funny or whatever, then satire is probably permissible. But it seems like its one of those things that can become caustic fairly rapidly unless you curb it.
     
  16. friend of

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    You mean, "that Witch is perfect!"
     
  17. friend of

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    Lol take that stoopid Job
     
  18. Landon Caeli

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    Try Ed Debevics in Chicago for good sarcastic humor. :D

     
  19. jimmyjimmy

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    I'm no longer a cessationist after reading that. ;)
     
  20. Landon Caeli

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    You could never get a job at Ed Debevics. :cool:
     
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