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How do you trust God when He doesnt help?

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by Macchiato, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. Macchiato

    Macchiato Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Ill definitely keep this in mind.
     
  2. Macchiato

    Macchiato Well-Known Member

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    Im not blaming God just asking why hes not helping. Im asking a question.
     
  3. Godbehonored

    Godbehonored New Member

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    Both Jesus and His apostles said in the Gospel and letters that we will suffer tribulation in this world because we seek a different kingdom that is full of righteousness. How the world treated Jesus when He was on earth will be how we will be treated, in varying degrees.

    The modern day teachings of the institutionalised church don’t prepare believers for the sufferings of being Christians, but the early church under the apostles are prepared every day under the teachings and examples of the apostles. Our mandate is to triumph under suffering, as a test of our faith, and God will carry us through them. The suffering in this life is temporal, the blessings that await the faithful is permanent.
     
  4. Marumorose

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  5. Jamdoc

    Jamdoc Watching and Praying Always

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    God did tell Satan to torment Job, so God was owning His own responsibility in Job's suffering.
    He just had a good reason for it, and it's His creation His rules so He has the right to do it.

    But yes, Job was correct in attributing God to being the author of His pain, because God is the author of everything, it's an acknowledgement of sovereignty.
    Job just didn't know why, and he had arrogance in demanding to know. That was what God rebuked him over.
     
  6. aiki

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    And I asked you a series of questions the answers to which might give you some clarity on your situation. I also pointed out simple, basic facts about God and about living as one of His children. My goal was not to argue with you but to point to the truth. Sometimes, the truth is not what we want; it doesn't care about our feelings but about what is true, what the facts of a matter actually are. Do I do you any favors by encouraging you to focus on what you feel rather than on what is true? I don't think so.

    Others might want to take a "Oh, you poor thing!" approach with you. Okay. I don't think that is ultimately very helpful but, to each their own. It's interesting, though, that the sympathetic folk very quickly lose their sympathy for those who aren't as sympathetic as they are. This makes me wonder what the source of their sympathy really is.

    Anyway, I wrote to you, not to beat you down, but to point you in a direction that I believe will ultimately lead you to walking stably, under the flow of God's blessing, and joyful in Him no matter your circumstances.
     
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  7. Vinter

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    Your boyfriend was he a Christian? If he was good to you why did you let him go?
    I am asking because I am curious. No bashing. I just get the impression you have hard time and you are hard on yourself too.
     
  8. Subject to God

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    Gloria in excelsis Deo!
    It is good that you seek help.
    I know your pain, God is good.
    Only God is good. People can act good though, and that is pleasant.
    There are examples of good people in the bible.
    Keep on fighting the good fight.
    Filling up the gas and lending out the car is a blessing to your family, dont forget that.
    Bless those who curse you.
    Bless and curse not, for you are yourself called to inherit blessings.
    And finally. The powerful one:
    Do not repay evil with evil, but overcome evil with good.
    Keep fighting.
    If you fix your gaze on Jesus you will not grow weary.

    Because you wrote you regret that you didnt marry the father before having a baby,
    id like to help you, please initiate a conversation.

    Yours truly in Christ our redeemer. Øyvind. Norway.
     
  9. coffee4u

    coffee4u Well-Known Member

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    I pray that things will improve in your life.
    God can and will work things out in his own time, but we hamper his working by our sin. We make our own lives worse and more complicated when it was never God's fault. This is why God gave us guidelines to live by because going outside of them can cause us grief and hardship. If you have stopped blaming God (your first post appears to be) then this is a step in the right direction, but always recognize the way out is not more sin. Even if sin like moving in with a bf seems like an escape, this will again cause more consequences.

    I would see if you can get a locked saving account and keep very little cash on you. Try and be as kind and as non noticeable around your parents as you can be. And see if a church can't help you if you have no other family or friends.

    Most people here are trying to help but that may not always come across in text. We have all done things that landed us in some kind of hot water over the years, no one is perfect. At the same time we also don't want to try and say your choices had no effect on where you are now, because they did. So mentioning this is not to judge you but to say, hey watch out for those pot holes, we don't want you to stumble down another one.
     
  10. MikeinSeattle

    MikeinSeattle Looking for believers to pray with. Message me.

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    When I first became a christian I would pray for things and wonder why they didnt happen. Now after 10 years of praying, I have seen God do the thing I ask Him to do many times. After studying the bible about prayer and listing to many many different teachers on the subject I have learned that answering the question of why a prayer is unanswered is an extremely difficult thing to do because there are many many many different things that affect the situation. The spiritual realm is complicated. And you really have to understand how it works before you can begin to understand all the variables that come into play that decide what happens when a person prays for something.

    Unfortunately we are living in a time where this knowledge is not at all easy to attain. You basically have to open the bible and read through it page by page and meditate on everything it says about prayer until you are able to begin to start piecing everything together. Either that or you have to find someone who can teach you. Honestly I think the first option is by far the easier one. We are living in a time in which it is hard to find one person in any church you go to that knows how to pray and sees God answer there prayers.

    I can tell you this. Jesus loves you. He hears every request you make. And He DOES answer every one. He may answer in a small way just to show you that He hears you or He may give you exactly what you ask for. It depends more than anything how long you spend persistently asking for the same thing every day. If you pray for the same thing 3 times a day every day for a month you will see God answer you in a powerful way. If its a small thing you will almost certainly get what you are asking for. A good job offer is a fairly small thing. If its a bigger thing (a good husband). You will probably need to pray for six months instead of a month or maybe even longer. If you sin a lot it will greatly affect how much power your prayer has. If you fast your prayer will have A LOT more power. Again there are many things that affect it. Most Christians pray with so little consistency and effort that they do not even notice the answer God gives.

    Do not lose heart. We may start in a bad place. I started in a very bad place and it has been a very long battle for me. I have been near death many times it has been so difficult. But if you faithfully follow the Lord He will bring you to a brighter and brighter day as you live your life. And nothing is impossible if you seek Him in prayer for it. Many people have already given you sound advise. It sounds like you should get away from the people ruining your life. Try to find a loving family who can take you in if at all possible as this is the best option. Type an email explaining your situation and asking if they can help you with a place to live at least temporarily send it to 10 churches a day. All the churches in your area. You are called to love your neighbor as yourself. That means equal giving to others as to yourself. You are not called to let people around you slowly drain you of the strength you need to live.

    Above all remember you need Gods favor on your life to move forward. You must stick to Him like glue even when you feel like God is crushing you. Trust Him. You must trust Him. If you want to know how to have Gods favor on your life go into my previous posts and read the replys I have given to other people in the prayer wall. I am trying to give a little bit of what I have learned from the scriptures in each post I make.

    Where is God when life is hell? He is right beside you. Holding you up. Teaching you slowly how to walk in His ways with His favor and blessing. Bringing you to a brighter and brighter tomorrow.

    praying**

    Lord help this person I am writing to to trust You and give You all there life unconditionally. May the trials be purifying that teaches them to find there peace and joy in you. May the trials bring them closer to you not farther away. And help them Lord to do the wisest thing they can do in there current situation. Set them on the path of blessing that trust in You is. In Jesus Name.
     
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  11. Subject to God

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    Gloria in excelsis Deo!
    Way to go Mike!
    Listen people, listen to Mike here.
    Beautiful
    I thank my God for you and your help to this lady.
    God bless you Mike. in Jesu name.

    God is good.

    Gloria in excelsis Deo!
     
  12. carolina16

    carolina16 Jesus Christ is the Lord

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    I´m in the same, very many times God didn´t answer. If you try to pray to the Holy Spirit?
     
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  13. Halbhh

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    We will sometimes suffer for Christ because we are Christian, but there is another kind of suffering that most of us will experience (and you might be there, or not): that we be pushed to learn to believe/rely on God in a more total faith way: to help us get there we may suffer intensely enough that we finally turn to God in desperation enough to pray in a total way, to cry out for help. As if you were falling off a cliff: that total way. But one could get that help sooner, before that kind of desperation gets more intense, by praying with faith (one has to believe God will, Mark chapter 11) the prayer Christ gave us to pray each day, in Matthew chapter 6, where we ask for the most key things we all need (and has depth in the words of this prayer we may not get at first glance):

    As He said to us, the most needed prayer for us:
    Matthew 6 NIV second section
     
  14. Sketcher

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    Why do you need to move in with a guy? Why can't you move in with another woman seeking a roommate?
     
  15. SeventhFisherofMen

    SeventhFisherofMen Friend of Doves Angels Team Supporter

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    @Macchiato That is tough. Find a way to save your money in a diff bank account, don't give up your money. I pray Jesus helps you get out of that toxic environment and helps set you free from the fowler's snare in Jesus Name Amen! Find a place keep praying don't give up Jesus will set you free. Don't give in to your parent's toxicity keep trying. If you need someone to talk to you can DM me I will pray when asked.

    As someone who had to live with my Mom who was toxic and threatened to kick me out every time I got in an argument I finally moved out God did answer my prayers and He will answer yours!
     
  16. Jeffwhosoever

    Jeffwhosoever Faithful Servant & Seminary Student Staff Member Assistant Chaplain Angels Team Supporter

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    Well said! Thanks for helping her.
     
  17. Jeffwhosoever

    Jeffwhosoever Faithful Servant & Seminary Student Staff Member Assistant Chaplain Angels Team Supporter

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    Let's all bear in mind that Macchiato is in a very difficult place and is asking for helpful advice, so let us all be constructive and mindful of her circumstances. A lot of people would be doing a lot worse in this situation, so perhaps let's giver her some respect and also understanding and a bit of admiration for fighting hard to find the right road to take in a dire situation. She might have a few mistaken ideas such as moving in with a guy prior to marriage, but in general she is trying to do the right thing amid tough living conditions, so I will simply say that I will pray for you to find God's will for your life and get going in the right direction as soon as practical, but in the mean time, focus in Scripture. When I was in a tough spot at work in very different circumstances, reading Proverbs and Psalms helped me daily. Most of all, read Romans 8:1.
     
  18. NothingIsImpossible

    NothingIsImpossible Well-Known Member

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    God always has plans. Sometimes the suffering we go through is for a reason down the road. Does this mean He wants us to suffer? No. But whatever goes on, trust in Him. And when you can, get out of that situation. Trust me, having toxic parent(s) will eat up most of your time until your older and realized you could have spent alot more time in life not having to think about them.
     
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