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Featured How do you get rid of bad spirits and demonic thoughts from within?

Discussion in 'For New Christians' started by J Daniel, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. J Daniel

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    Sometimes I feel that I am beyond help at times........................

    Times I have the right mentality and approach then other times my mind goes back to a past where I feel I would be able to handle business in a way that would satisfy me (though I know that would end in a train wreck).

    Same time, I know Christ is needed - but I REALLY wish he could be with me PHYSICALLY for just 10 minutes to speak to and heal and mend.

    People will say *that would be too easy* well when we need help for something (if a child needs help with their maths homework and asks) we wouldn't tell that child *THAT WOULD BE TOO EASY* No! We help!

    Sometimes we need DEVIND assistance.
     
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    Yes, we ALWAYS need divine assistance! That's why Jesus went to the Father and sent His Spirit to live in us and be our helper. Just think about it. God lives in every believer! His divine power is in us!

    2 Peter 3:3--"His divine power has given us everything required for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and goodness."

    The Warfare Prayer is something that has helped me with demonic oppression. You can find it here: Spiritual Warfare Prayer | Cru
     
  3. Messerve

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    In Jesus' absence we at least have fellow believers to be with. I''m sure you'll get some healing through those interactions, however I don't think anything will ever be as good as being with Jesus. So we have to keep running the race and be in continual repentance for the times we mess up.

    One thing I never thought about regarding that analogy is that to run a race well you have to pace yourself. My tendency has always been to leap into spiritual highs and then I find myself worn out and falling back to a place I didn't want to be. I haven't figured out what spiritually pacing myself would quite look like, but daily devotions is a place to start and then from there you can take a small step to a small place of responsibility in the church or community outreach. And then perhaps one day you'll take charge of that thing you joined, and so on. That's kind of how I see pacing yourself spiritually.
     
  4. philadelphos

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    Hey OP, please define "demons and bad spirits from within"... Are you being literal, or is there something you haven't shared ? Also, what's your prayer life like ?

    Prayer is done collectively to "our Father in heaven": "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." (Mt. 18:20)

    The gift of the HS: "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things..." (Jn. 14:26)

    @Reborn1977 has some interesting points, about sane and generational sin. But the prayer advice is quite a broad scattershot of details.

    We're taught to pray tersely per the Lord' Prayer prescribed specifically for us in Matthew 6 since our Father in heaven knows our every need before we ask.

    In general, repentance as a concept is simply turning, to change one's heart, mind, and behaviour towards God and his righteousness. To turn around, from wrong to right (see Don Stewart's article, What Is Repentance?), and by the sounds of your other posts it looks like you've (sort of) already started doing so.

    However, on the other hand judging by your flirtatious writings I would guess that you've perhaps got a big mouth, self-control issues, and impulsivity issues in general. Would that be fair ?

    You've mentioned asceticism / self-control before, and the Lord in Matthew 5, presents an ascetic principle, relating to our earlier discussion:

    "Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." (Mt. 5:28-30, Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 5 - King James Version)

    To 'cut off' areas that cause you to sin, areas the Devil may be at work at. -- 'The spirit is strong but the flesh is weak.'

    This may very well be a literal self-control (self-dismemberment), but myself and others prefer to think that the Lord is speaking figuratively. (Please do not dismember or maim yourself)

    In personally practice, I simply avoid certain places, activities, workplaces, groups, situations, and certain churches altogether. I try to eat minimally and sleep sufficiently, prioritising Scripture as often as I can.

    E.g. I used to be good at athletics and love running but I cannot run at certain waterfront areas in Sydney because of the kind of young ladies who go there, and the uncomfortable image of someone in skimpy clothing in front me for 3-7 kms tends to get burnt into my memory...

    I've also quit the gym for similar reasons (see history of gymnasiums in Ancient Greece, training nude, orgies, etc) since the women I know tend to wear full make-up, flirt, and stare while you just want to train, pump out a final set, eat, and leave. Most the staff, trainers, and pros I know have similar issues at gyms. In general I also find that too much muscle disturbs sleep and hormone balance, so I avoid muscles. Instead I do calisthenics and cycle locally, then pouring my energy into studying Scripture, reading theology, church history, learning languages, etc. More intellectual and spirtual pursuits, less physical.

    "Physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things" (1 Tim. 4:8)

    Here in Australia office workers tend to binge drink, and some employers encourage this behaviour, so for several years I detested alcohol and stopped drinking altogether. I stopped frequenting city bars, especially after work, special parties, functions, etc. I cut out large social groups and networks this way, for the better I believe.

    A fellow brother mentioned to me once that he doesn't allow women into his car, in particular the passenger seat, where a lot of problems start, extra-marital affairs, emotional affairs, etc, innocently after 'giving someone a lift home'. I've found his advice helpful. I also ride a motorcycle and bicycle and take public transport, further limiting this issue. -- While these are of course temporary fixes, for the most part it has worked.

    The dilemma however being a single person is that I've avoided and rejected several female friends, probably too abruptly, impolitely and rudely, without explanation etc, even when they're nice people, so yeah, that's something you need to decide for your self. For me, I've got enough problems, loss of salvation is a real possibility if I'm not careful.

    "Let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Mt. 5:37)
     
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  5. LaBèlla

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    Forgetting the past is hard when a part of you wants to return of if your feet are pointed backwards and you’re trying to walk. You’re going nowhere fast.

    You have to employ many strategies. We’re told to fix our minds on things above and not below. Have you ever looked at the sky? Do it today. Notice what happens when your head is pointed upwards. You have limited vision of every thing happening around you. Your vision is overwhelmed by what’s above. Not the things on your plane.

    We can’t accept every thought that comes into our mind. We’re told to cast down every thought and imagination and high thing that exalts itself against God. If the idea you’re pondering isn’t His or related to Him, put it out.

    So what do you think about?

    Whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

    That’s your template. And if the things you’re focusing on aren’t related to this or a subject of prayer and intercession you need to stop.

    You need to be honest about the direction your thoughts are taking you. Don’t ignore it. If the outcome is sinful that is something you need to avoid. It doesn’t always start with sin. But it could open the door. That’s why prudence and wisdom are a must.

    You think you can handle it and it ends up handling you.

    You have the Holy Spirit within you. He’s your guide. But you won’t hear Him if you’re busy talking, doing, or neglecting your prayer life. You can’t get the remedy without going to the Doctor.

    We’ve been given all we need. We have to work within His guidelines. Not ours. We need to set boundaries and be diligent about our behavior.

    This is what Paul meant by...

    All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful. All things are lawful, but not all things build up.

    We may enjoy harmless things. Like exercise. But our approach or the conditions of its engagement could present snares that lead to sin. We aren’t bettered by participating.

    I like music but I’ve chosen to restrict myself to certain forms because of the messages conveyed. I don’t want it in my mind or spirit. It will make me more receptive to inappropriate messages after a while. I’ve done the same with television too.

    If you fail to secure the fortress you should expect intruders. Much like you would if never locked your doors at home. Someone will come in eventually.

    You’ll reduce demonic oppression by strengthening the gates and staying close to God. But if you open the door he’s coming and bringing a host of friends too. That’s the way it works.
     
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  6. J Daniel

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    Ahhhhhh Miss Bella - you know I am just complexed....

    I don't watch TV much - when the Premier League returns I will be watching - but I don't care for TV.

    Past - future - myself - how I can look ever better - what my future is - what her future might be - where I see my career going - whether God is listening - Be my own God so I can't be let down - Wishing Jesus would be with me in PERSON PHYSICALLY so I can hug an chat to him - get healed by him - then thoughts of violence of wanting a fight - that kinda stuff.

    Well intercession comes from being hands on at church - look these 6 weeks will be interesting.

    Yes I will be looking up in the sky for a while - i will let you know how that goes.
     
  7. J Daniel

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    I have not prayed in a few days - I had had to think - but I will today - well when somebody is having crap thoughts on the mind I would consider that Demonic or some crap spirit inside - funny ever since that sexual soul tie - it is like her spirit (when she would cry all the time) is now in me - that low feeling I dunno.

    Yeah well there you go - he knows my needs - DELIVERANCE!


    Well I am wretched I have told this many times to God I am not looking to pretend to be what I am not I am on long journey.

    Yeah - I am pulled in by women at times (right and wrong reasons) but after my history I won't be doing things how I did cos that causes SAVAGE hurt. If I see a woman (I think is attractive) is it bad to acknowledge it? Women make the world beautiful - that FEMININE ENERGY that makes a MASCULINE MAN get WEAK and become DIFFERENT. But, again, I am very controlled - my thing is I have lost my spirit to speak to anybody so yeah whatever.

    Well that SOME VALUE is what keeping me from really having crap to admire for myself in this wretched state.

    Yes a woman in your car is an issue if you are married and she is NOT your worth or somebody you are courting with or whatever.

     
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    Need that power.

     
  9. LaBèlla

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    This is a process not a sprint. When the river bends I move with it. Cause swimming upstream will hurt your noggin’. I flow through the ups and downs.

    Our culture is shifting. I’ve felt a greater desire to emphasize my ladyship more than ever. A few years ago I saw an image. She was dressed in vintage clothing with modern touches. Her beauty and loveliness struck me. And every image I saw of her produced the same.

    I finally reached a point where I acknowledged my desire to look the same. I wanted to be elegant every day. Not sometimes. But always. Once I committed to the task. The progress wasn’t difficult. I just needed to decide. That’s all.

    I understand your desire for the Lord’s comfort. We’ve had some amazing conversations. I talk to Him about everything. Even sex. That gets interesting. But I’m not ashamed.
     
  10. philadelphos

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    "Thoughts of violence of wanting a fight"

    That's a very disconcerting statement, alarming. - Is anyone in immediate danger ?

    I'm not sure what capacity or what scenario that is, or what the context is. Perhaps you're the instigator, the culprit ? or maybe you're a victim, acting in self-defence ? In either case, I prefer not to know details. I also wouldn't want you to incriminate yourself. - But perhaps it's also environmental, maybe by bad influence from violent upbringing and or violent surroundings ? Or maybe reaction from being provoked ?

    I follow the UK news very closely, and compared to Sydney, London is a very very dangerous and violent place. Constant knife crime, gun crime, bludgeon, glassings, etc. Sydney is almost nothing like this. So I sincerely hope this is not your case.

    Why ? Because a believer cannot be violent, he must not be violent. - The Lord warned, 'Live by the sword, die by the sword' (Mt. 26:52), remembering that vengeance is Gods': 'Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.' (Rom. 12, Deu. 32, Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 32:35, Romans 12:17-19 - King James Version)

    Likewise a believer cannot hate, and must not hate: "Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15)

    From the way you write and by your avatar you're obviously of African extraction which reminds me of African Christians I've met before, admirably faithful, pure, and devoted to Scripture, exactly as the Bereans who Paul spoke of, who study Scripture daily.

    As a brother, I challenge you to focus on the 'godliness' part, having 'value for all things'.

    I also challenge you to recite Psalm 119, like this child. If he can, anybody can. And if God is with you, no one can be against you, not the Devil himself (per Job's case).

    1. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.
    2. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
    3. They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
    (Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 119 - King James Version)

    This is something I'm working on. I wish I could recite Psalm 119 every day, on Sabbath, but especially in times I am down, alone, and at loss for words to pray. At loss for words to shout or cry. Because Paul and Silas could. In fact they were singing Psalm 119 when God heard them in prison, and the earth quaked and prisoners were all set free. They echoed the words of David, "At midnight I will rise to give thanks unto thee because of thy righteous judgments." (verse 62)

    The Jews are good at this, and Presbyterians who sing psalmody are similar. - Music may help, to cheer you up.

    Scripture is life, it lives and breathes, as the breathe of God breathed into Adam's nostrils. - It's not just 'words', but 'words of life'. -- This is the 'hug' you need from Jesus. Jesus being the Word incarnate, In the beginning was the WORD and the word was with with God and the word WAS GOD.

    Reciting Scripture is very very helpful, not only therapeutic but in my experience God RESPONDS.
     
  11. Aabbie James

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    You ask: "How do you get rid of bad spirits and demonic thoughts from within?"

    Here's a good place to start:
    Pray without ceasing... (1 Thessalonians 5:16-18)
    Meditate on God's Word, day and night... (Psalm 1:2)
    Cast all your anxiety on Him because he cares for you... (1 Peter 5:7)
     
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    All locations have good and bad parts. That is true of most cities save the highest echelons in real estate. It’s important to bear that in mind when following the news.

    If you have the resources it’s not an issue.
     
  13. J Daniel

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    Yes 'go with the flow' is a popular saying.
    You are super elegant I can tell through your language. I feel it. It is all good.
    You should be able to talk to your father about ANYTHING so there certainly is nothing to be ashamed of.

    If I ever do have children of my own I certainly wouldn't want them to feel embarrassed to tell me anything - infact if they feel they can't tell or talk to me about anything then I would feel like I have failed as a parent. My child should never feel as if they can't tell me ANYTHING.
     
  14. J Daniel

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    Nobody is in danger - but when we are pent up what do people do? Hit a punching bag, scream whatever it is to get that out of their system.
    When we are annoyed or hurt we want to react - nothing to do with with the stereotypical black upbringing far from that I come from a very loving family - I am just recovering from heart ache and a soul tie that I had no business forming to begin with - so the anger cos from that - an the fact I was ultimately rejected - however in long term it was probably for the best.
    London's knife crime is due to weak leadership and wack priorities - if the elite wanted knife crime to stop they could do that tomorrow morning - but they don't cos if doesn't affect the areas of the affluent.
    True - but somewhere in Ecclesiastics it does state that there is a time and place for everything - of course should never seek violence! In any format - but when you are dealing with evil you have to deal with it accordingly (that is my view on that might not be Biblical but look at how God ordered Israel to deal with the Philistines - DRIVE THEM OUT! With Israel being surrounded by enemies that want to kill them must react to that accordingly.
    Psalms is something a lot of people have mentioned to me.
     
  15. J Daniel

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    Exactly
     
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    Thank you. I was raised ‘prim and proper’ but there’s always room for improvement.

    No, we’ve covered everything. ~lol

    Parents say that a lot. But it really hinges on their openness. No one is going to lay themselves bare to someone tight lipped.

    I share honestly with my daughter. With propriety in mind. Nevertheless, I’m not afraid to admit my challenges and mistakes. Because it shows my humanity and makes me relatable.
     
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    Good attitude.
    Yes - we are human - can I ask why you split with the father of your daughter?
     
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