How do you feel about women not wearing bras? Is it a Sin?

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Seems to me that everything would be covered if I'm wearing a tank top and shorts. Does it matter what's under my tank top and shorts?

So you'd say bibically bare arms and lower legs are fully modest? I would say besides nudity, there is immodesty (partially immodest like midriff).
 
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So you'd say bibically bare arms and lower legs are fully modest? I would say besides nudity, there is immodesty (partially immodest like midriff).

I am short and chubby. My midriff hasn't seen the sun in over 30 years. Show me "biblically" that bare arms and lower legs are "immodest". Chapter and verse please...your choice of translation. I'm currently wearing a sleeveless top and one of my long "fundie" maxi skirts...does that suit your definition of modesty or is it immodest because my arms are bare?
 
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So ...the topic and question is.... How do you feel about the act of women not wearing a bra at all? Are sometimes okay but not all the time? It just shouldn't be done? She has rights?
Just curious... but please, elaborate! I appreciate all view points!
It all depends how she looks. A young lady has perky breasts and still looks good bra-less. Me? I'm 56 and my boobs hang down to my toes without a bra. Going bra-less is an act of terrorism.
 
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I am short and chubby. My midriff hasn't seen the sun in over 30 years. Show me "biblically" that bare arms and lower legs are "immodest". Chapter and verse please...your choice of translation. I'm currently wearing a sleeveless top and one of my long "fundie" maxi skirts...does that suit your definition of modesty or is it immodest because my arms are bare?

Where does the Bible say midriff is immodest?

If bare arms aren't immodest, are you saying the way Orthodox and Muslim women dress isn't modest?
 
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Where does the Bible say midriff is immodest?

If bare arms aren't immodest, are you saying the way Orthodox and Muslim women dress isn't modest?

Look...I'm tired of you going round and round. If you want your wife and daughters to wear burhkas or abayas and hijab, go for it...me? I'm a red-blooded American Southern girl. I wear shorts, tank tops, bathing suits and flip flops when it's hot out...I live in the desert, it's usually hot. Don't like it? Don't look.
 
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Where does the Bible say midriff is immodest?

If bare arms aren't immodest, are you saying the way Orthodox and Muslim women dress isn't modest?
Modesty is culturally defined. In some cultures, a woman has to have her legs covered, her arms covered down to her elbows, and up to her neck. In my southern california culture, it's perfectly okay to wear a sleeveless top and shorts. In yet other cultures, it is not immodest to be bare breasted.
 
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If nipples are showing, then yes. If breasts are moving about or in any way visble, yes.
Nipples show because some women have naturally more sensitive breasts -- the littlest caress of the fabric causes their nipples to harden. It doesn't mean they are aroused in the slightest. But it can be embarrassing -- the one's I've talked to tend to wear bras if for no other reason than to avoid this being seen.
 
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If nipples are showing, then yes. If breasts are moving about or in any way visble, yes.

Us "generously endowed" girls can't stop the jiggle...it happens. And, well...they're visible. I could dress in a flannel shirt, blue jeans and work boots and still be positively identified as female by virtue of what's sticking out from my chest.

The puritanical hang-ups really need to go away. Women have breasts, women have curves, if men can't deal with that, I would then say that it's the MEN who need to learn self-control and not be worrying about what we women are or are not wearing.
 
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Us "generously endowed" girls can't stop the jiggle...it happens. And, well...they're visible. I could dress in a flannel shirt, blue jeans and work boots and still be positively identified as female by virtue of what's sticking out from my chest.

The puritanical hang-ups really need to go away. Women have breasts, women have curves, if men can't deal with that, I would then say that it's the MEN who need to learn self-control and not be worrying about what we women are or are not wearing.

Aren't breasts private parts and nudity? I don't know if nudity is just what the culture defines it as. I'm talking bibically.
 
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So ...the topic and question is.... How do you feel about the act of women not wearing a bra at all? Are sometimes okay but not all the time? It just shouldn't be done? She has rights?
Just curious... but please, elaborate! I appreciate all view points!

Some days I don't wear socks.
I know a lady who rarely wears a bra, but she also
avoids form fitting or transparent tops.
 
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Aren't breasts private parts and nudity? I don't know if nudity is just what the culture defines it as. I'm talking bibically.

If they're covered it's not nudity. So I can cover them w/a bra, a shirt, a dress, whatever. If it's covered, it's not nudity. As long as there's one layer of clothing on...not a big deal.
I requested you post bible verses pertaining to what a woman should wear...in detail. Today I wore a dress, it's a tank top style dress, sleeveless, scoop neck and falls to mid-calf. Is that too immodest for you?
 
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Exposure of the female breast to male visual scrutiny triggers a reaction in the human male which he perceives as an invitation to copulate. The younger the male involved the stronger the sense of being PURPOSEFULLY invited becomes.
 
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Exposure of the female breast to male visual scrutiny triggers a reaction in the human male which he perceives as an invitation to copulate. The younger the male involved the stronger the sense of being PURPOSEFULLY invited becomes.

When this happens, it is dictated purely by culture. If a guy interprets this as a sexual invitation, he will be stimulated. If he interprets it in a non-sexual way (feeding the baby, enjoying the sun, being comfortable in the heat), then he won't get aroused.

I described the fallacy of this kind of thinking in my earlier post (page 2, #28). Nowadays, as a nudist, I see hundreds of bare breasts in non-sexual settings and don't get aroused. And it's not because I'm old; it's because I do not automatically think of nudity as sexual.
 
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I feel perfectly comfortable with it, as a woman currently not wearing one. I had ballet this morning, and the scooped back common with leotards makes it impossible to wear one without it being very visible, so I simply eschew it.

Overall I think it's an individual decision women should make based on her physique, preferences, attire, and context.
 
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When this happens, it is dictated purely by culture. If a guy interprets this as a sexual invitation, he will be stimulated. If he interprets it in a non-sexual way (feeding the baby, enjoying the sun, being comfortable in the heat), then he won't get aroused.

I described the fallacy of this kind of thinking in my earlier post (page 2, #28). Nowadays, as a nudist, I see hundreds of bare breasts in non-sexual settings and don't get aroused. And it's not because I'm old; it's because I do not automatically think of nudity as sexual.

Can a Christian be a nudist? What does the Bible say about nudity?

Even in “asexual” contexts, public displays of nudity dishonor God by pretending an innocence that no longer exists. A Christian should definitely not be a nudist or participate in nudist activities.

Not being aroused doesn't justify dressing inappropriately.
 
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When this happens, it is dictated purely by culture. If a guy interprets this as a sexual invitation, he will be stimulated. If he interprets it in a non-sexual way (feeding the baby, enjoying the sun, being comfortable in the heat), then he won't get aroused.

I described the fallacy of this kind of thinking in my earlier post (page 2, #28). Nowadays, as a nudist, I see hundreds of bare breasts in non-sexual settings and don't get aroused. And it's not because I'm old; it's because I do not automatically think of nudity as sexual.

Of course I was talking from the viewpoint of a city dweller in an industrialized country and not from the viewpoint of a native of the Amazon where women go almost naked all the time nor of a nudist who has been desensitized or perhaps is blessed with the temperament or philosophical bent towards that kind of tolerance.
 
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