How do we know we are following the Spirit of Christ.

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In many different denominations and peoples who claim Christ, how often i hear
I am following the Spirit , I do follow Jesus.
Yet, they contradict and often contradict the Truth.
So, How do we KNOW we are hearing and following Christ
and not just our own reasoning or teachings of men that make sense
yet contradicts truth?
One says , i am right , you are wrong. Yet both claim they hear from the Holy Spirit.
A baptists says His religion is the truth
a catholic says his religoin is truth
a mormon , a jehovah, a protestant, a seven day adventist.
all claim to hear the HOLY SPIRIT.
HOW do we KNOW its the Holy Spirit and not just some other spirit.
How do we know we are preaching the one true gosple
and not just another gosple as paul would say.
How do we Know we are following the One true Christ
and not some other JESUS as paul would say.
One might say because it feels right. yet they all say this.
How do we know we follow the Holy Spirit , the Spirit of Christ .
IF any spirit, if any man , if any angel
comes and the idea , message, sermon, thought
contradicts JESUS sayings..............you are hearing another spirit.
Why do we think thier are so many different religions in christanity.
Here is the answer. HE who hears and DOES my sayings
is like a wise man, who dug DEEP and laid his house upon a good foundatoin of stone.
JESUS we cannot see, BUT HIS SAYINGS are all in that bible.
and the HOLY scrips make us wise unto salvation.
IF a spirit comes and tells you anything which leads to disobeying JESUS
and even if it brings scrips , beleive it NOT.
I will give an example of how the temptor works.
I will not remarry for it will be adultey as JESUS said very clear.
Yet, a seven day adventist told me
yeah , but GOD gives grace. Its written in genesis that God does not want man
alone. DID you see how that works.
But what spirit was in that man.
Has JESUS really said if ye put away your wife
and marry another , save for fornicatoin that you commit adultery.
No , no says the spirit , God gives grace, it is written that
the man should not be alone. What spirit behaves that way.
and what is the goal of this spirit. TO get me to DISHONOR and disobey
JESUS. WHO is the aurthor of that ?
satan. YET , JESUS , HIS SPIRIT gave me the words to resist the evil.
For i said............yes its been said that God gives grace.
But GRACE teaches us to obey HIM, to live righteously.
That was teh HOLY SPIRIT.
SO how do we KNOW we follow JESUS
How do we KNOW its the HOLY SPIRIT leading us..........
IF it honors the SON, if it leads us into TRUTH, not lies, TRUTH.
MY strong advice is start over today. Read the bible for yourselves
and test anything you see, hear Against SOUND doctrine.
For many churches teach self defense . YET JESUS said not too
many churchs pray to angels or etc. YET we must worship only GOD
many allow remarraige
many sue and take people to court
many swear. Yet even James said above all things brethren swear NOT.
HOW do we KNOW we hear from Christ . IF what we hear, HONORS Him.
 

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In many different denominations and peoples who claim Christ, how often i hear
I am following the Spirit , I do follow Jesus.
Yet, they contradict and often contradict the Truth.
I only got this far. Seems you know the truth and others don't?
 
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a catholic says his religion is truth
I don't make such black and white claims. It's the truth for me. Now before the absolutists jump on me for being a backsliding relativist, I respect Protestants who have been raised on the "saved" paradigm. I don't understand it but that doesn't mean it's wrong. it certainly seems to work for them. There will be Protestants who hate on Mary and I just think it gets mean and nasty sometimes.
The truth is no one "knows' the truth completely because God remains a mystery and maybe that is the way it is supposed to be.
 
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In many different denominations and peoples who claim Christ, how often i hear
I am following the Spirit , I do follow Jesus.
Yet, they contradict and often contradict the Truth.
So, How do we KNOW we are hearing and following Christ
and not just our own reasoning or teachings of men that make sense
yet contradicts truth?
One says , i am right , you are wrong. Yet both claim they hear from the Holy Spirit.
A baptists says His religion is the truth
a catholic says his religoin is truth
a mormon , a jehovah, a protestant, a seven day adventist.
all claim to hear the HOLY SPIRIT.
HOW do we KNOW its the Holy Spirit and not just some other spirit.
How do we know we are preaching the one true gosple
and not just another gosple as paul would say.
How do we Know we are following the One true Christ
and not some other JESUS as paul would say.
One might say because it feels right. yet they all say this.
How do we know we follow the Holy Spirit , the Spirit of Christ .
IF any spirit, if any man , if any angel
comes and the idea , message, sermon, thought
contradicts JESUS sayings..............you are hearing another spirit.
Why do we think thier are so many different religions in christanity.
Here is the answer. HE who hears and DOES my sayings
is like a wise man, who dug DEEP and laid his house upon a good foundatoin of stone.
JESUS we cannot see, BUT HIS SAYINGS are all in that bible.
and the HOLY scrips make us wise unto salvation.
IF a spirit comes and tells you anything which leads to disobeying JESUS
and even if it brings scrips , beleive it NOT.
I will give an example of how the temptor works.
I will not remarry for it will be adultey as JESUS said very clear.
Yet, a seven day adventist told me
yeah , but GOD gives grace. Its written in genesis that God does not want man
alone. DID you see how that works.
But what spirit was in that man.
Has JESUS really said if ye put away your wife
and marry another , save for fornicatoin that you commit adultery.
No , no says the spirit , God gives grace, it is written that
the man should not be alone. What spirit behaves that way.
and what is the goal of this spirit. TO get me to DISHONOR and disobey
JESUS. WHO is the aurthor of that ?
satan. YET , JESUS , HIS SPIRIT gave me the words to resist the evil.
For i said............yes its been said that God gives grace.
But GRACE teaches us to obey HIM, to live righteously.
That was teh HOLY SPIRIT.
SO how do we KNOW we follow JESUS
How do we KNOW its the HOLY SPIRIT leading us..........
IF it honors the SON, if it leads us into TRUTH, not lies, TRUTH.
MY strong advice is start over today. Read the bible for yourselves
and test anything you see, hear Against SOUND doctrine.
For many churches teach self defense . YET JESUS said not too
many churchs pray to angels or etc. YET we must worship only GOD
many allow remarraige
many sue and take people to court
many swear. Yet even James said above all things brethren swear NOT.
HOW do we KNOW we hear from Christ . IF what we hear, HONORS Him.
WE get out of the way. We pray, and we listen to the Holy Spirit. There is no other way. It honors Him.
 
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Pro 4:10 Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many.

Pro 4:20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

Matt 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock

John 14:23-24
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
 
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WE get out of the way. We pray, and we listen to the Holy Spirit. There is no other way. It honors Him.

Winken, yes true, but also how do we know we are following the HOLY Spirit (spirit of Christ) and not a wrong spirit........as scripture warns us to test all things and to test the spirits.........so that we will not be deceived.
 
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I only got this far. Seems you know the truth and others don't?

I agree that might not be the best terminology, to say people "claim" Christ sounds like it is implying that they are deliberately making a false claim to mislead, when actually most are sincere but are themselves being misled or just haven't received a revelation of the gospel yet, like where it is written that the young prophet-to-be Samuel in the temple had not yet. But I don't think frienden daLord meant to imply that anyone is making a deliberate false claim, it was just a manner of speaking, and I encourage you not to let that keep you from reading the whole post, because it is such a good point in general. Honestly, what he is saying here is rare truth and clarity in a time of so much murk and mist and deception, just as Jesus warned that there would be in the last days....we are in a time of famine for the words of the Lord.

Better call Paul, I see you are a Christian seeker........well friend, if it is Jesus you are seeking, I believe you will find him in His sayings, in the gospels. :) There are so many different versions of Christianity out there, but to find the true one, we just need to remain with the original and genuine, as given to us by the Founder of it. Read it, drink it in, meditate on it, and ask the Lord to give you revelation and understanding of it. One of the apostles wrote if any lacks wisdom to ask and the Lord will give it without finding fault...because He knows we need Him. Bless you.
 
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Winken, yes true, but also how do we know we are following the HOLY Spirit (spirit of Christ) and not a wrong spirit........as scripture warns us to test all things and to test the spirits.........so that we will not be deceived.

How do you know that it is the Holy Spirit? (Stop to think/pray about that right now).

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OK......now....... A Believer in Jesus as Savior knows it is the Holy Spirit who is messaging, not a satanic source. If one is "hearing" from a satanic voice, one will recognize that what is being heard is a lie, a phony message. If one is experiencing psychic phenomena (seeing, feeling), one will know it requires medical intervention. There are those who suffering from hearing voices. The medical matter needs to be handled in that event. There are those who seek mystical psychic intervention from a "person" on the internet who advertises that he or she has the mystical understanding of everything. Just send in your deposit and you can get started.........

They should simply be avoided.

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How do you know that it is the Holy Spirit? (Stop to think/pray about that right now).

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


OK......now....... A Believer in Jesus as Savior knows it is the Holy Spirit who is messaging, not a satanic source. If one is "hearing" from a satanic voice, one will recognize that what is being heard is a lie, a phony message. If one is experiencing psychic phenomena (seeing, feeling), one will know it requires medical intervention. There are those who suffering from hearing voices. The medical matter needs to be handled in that event. There are those who seek mystical psychic intervention from a "person" on the internet who advertises that he or she has the mystical understanding of everything. Just send in your deposit and you can get started.........

They should simply be avoided.

:groupray: Prayers

Winken, if this is true then why are we warned to test everything and to test the spirits......?
 
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Pro 4:10 Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many.

Pro 4:20 My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.

Matt 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock

John 14:23-24
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Amen.
 
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Winken, if this is true then why are we warned to test everything and to test the spirits......?
Yes, we are to "test" every spirit (note the small letter "s" on spirit; the Holy Spirit is always capitalized). How do we do that?

Read Acts 17:10. Study those scriptures, prayerfully, opening yourself up to the Truth of God's Word. It is our only source; the Holy Spirit interprets line upon line!

Read 2 Timothy 2:15 in the KJV. Note the command, "rightly dividing." That simply means that we are to avoid mixing imperatives in the Hebrew Bible or OT with Grace, as revealed through the Apostle Paul. The Bible alone is our source, interpreted and presented by the Holy Spirit and no one else! He gets it right; context is critical!

Share this Truth with friends and loved ones, not in the form of a lecture, but in the Spirit of Grace!
 
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I don't make such black and white claims. It's the truth for me. Now before the absolutists jump on me for being a backsliding relativist, I respect Protestants who have been raised on the "saved" paradigm. I don't understand it but that doesn't mean it's wrong. it certainly seems to work for them. There will be Protestants who hate on Mary and I just think it gets mean and nasty sometimes.
The truth is no one "knows' the truth completely because God remains a mystery and maybe that is the way it is supposed to be.
Its not wrong in any way to make such a valid claim.
all the apostles did.
I know many make such claims and are wrong . I know that.
SO this is why I was LED by the Spirit to write this.
HOW do we KNOW we are following the Spirit . I hope you read it all.
And sorry for not getting back sooner. My comp went dead. For some reason I tried it today and it worked.
 
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Its not wrong in any way to make such a valid claim.
all the apostles did.
I know many make such claims and are wrong . I know that.
SO this is why I was LED by the Spirit to write this.
HOW do we KNOW we are following the Spirit . I hope you read it all.
And sorry for not getting back sooner. My comp went dead. For some reason I tried it today and it worked.
:)
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I only got this far. Seems you know the truth and others don't?
As written .
I don't make such black and white claims. It's the truth for me.....I don't understand it but that doesn't mean it's wrong. it certainly seems to work for them. There will be Protestants who *************
I just think it gets mean and nasty sometimes.
The truth is no one "knows' the truth completely because God remains a mystery and maybe that is the way it is supposed to be.
Anabaptists aren't Protestants. We still reject all the false and pagan practices and doctrines the same as they do(or did, for centuries) as well.
As long as "the truth" for someone is contrary to Scripture, we are not supposed to even listen to it, let alone accept it or trust it.
Jesus said clearly "I AM TRUTH". Also , whoever seeks the TRUTH, and keeps seeking , will KNOW the TRUTH, and the TRUTH sets them free (from all that is false).
The mystery of wickedness continues full force and growing on earth, as written.
God's Grace is Abundantly Generously Extravagantly Available to all who seek Him, and keep seeking Him.
 
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In many different denominations and peoples who claim Christ, how often i hear
I am following the Spirit , I do follow Jesus.
Yet, they contradict and often contradict the Truth.
So, How do we KNOW we are hearing and following Christ
and not just our own reasoning or teachings of men that make sense
yet contradicts truth?
One says , i am right , you are wrong. Yet both claim they hear from the Holy Spirit.
A baptists says His religion is the truth
a catholic says his religoin is truth
a mormon , a jehovah, a protestant, a seven day adventist.
all claim to hear the HOLY SPIRIT.
HOW do we KNOW its the Holy Spirit and not just some other spirit.
How do we know we are preaching the one true gosple
and not just another gosple as paul would say.
How do we Know we are following the One true Christ
and not some other JESUS as paul would say.
One might say because it feels right. yet they all say this.
How do we know we follow the Holy Spirit , the Spirit of Christ .
IF any spirit, if any man , if any angel
comes and the idea , message, sermon, thought
contradicts JESUS sayings..............you are hearing another spirit.
Why do we think thier are so many different religions in christanity.
Here is the answer. HE who hears and DOES my sayings
is like a wise man, who dug DEEP and laid his house upon a good foundatoin of stone.
JESUS we cannot see, BUT HIS SAYINGS are all in that bible.
and the HOLY scrips make us wise unto salvation.
IF a spirit comes and tells you anything which leads to disobeying JESUS
and even if it brings scrips , beleive it NOT.
I will give an example of how the temptor works.
I will not remarry for it will be adultey as JESUS said very clear.
Yet, a seven day adventist told me
yeah , but GOD gives grace. Its written in genesis that God does not want man
alone. DID you see how that works.
But what spirit was in that man.
Has JESUS really said if ye put away your wife
and marry another , save for fornicatoin that you commit adultery.
No , no says the spirit , God gives grace, it is written that
the man should not be alone. What spirit behaves that way.
and what is the goal of this spirit. TO get me to DISHONOR and disobey
JESUS. WHO is the aurthor of that ?
satan. YET , JESUS , HIS SPIRIT gave me the words to resist the evil.
For i said............yes its been said that God gives grace.
But GRACE teaches us to obey HIM, to live righteously.
That was teh HOLY SPIRIT.
SO how do we KNOW we follow JESUS
How do we KNOW its the HOLY SPIRIT leading us..........
IF it honors the SON, if it leads us into TRUTH, not lies, TRUTH.
MY strong advice is start over today. Read the bible for yourselves
and test anything you see, hear Against SOUND doctrine.
For many churches teach self defense . YET JESUS said not too
many churchs pray to angels or etc. YET we must worship only GOD
many allow remarraige
many sue and take people to court
many swear. Yet even James said above all things brethren swear NOT.
HOW do we KNOW we hear from Christ . IF what we hear, HONORS Him.
 
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Yes! We know we are following Jesus when what we hear honors Him and the Word. The Word meaning the Holy Bible, only, in its entirety. Note this: we can expect revelation from the Holy Spirit to NOT honor man/woman, mere human thinking, or any of man's institutions. Be Glorified, Lord Jesus.
 
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I only got this far. Seems you know the truth and others don't?

Same as in Jesus' day. Nothing has changed much since then - "few are saved" on purpose/ according to Jesus Own Word and YHWH'S Plan and Purpose and WORD.

All mankind is opposed to God. So no surprise.
 
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