How do pro-abortion Christians reconcile their views with pro-life scripture?

[Junker P Hoodwink]

Proverbs 139:13, “For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.”

Jeremiah 1:5, “Before you were in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as the prophet of nations.”

Job 31:15, “Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?”

Psalm 22:10, “From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.”

 

[Mountainmanbob]

For those of us that have repented because of abortion those verses should mean a whole lot to us. An abortion is something we Christians should never participate in or encourage others to do.

Don't be deceived by the devil the flesh and the world.

Abortion recovery groups for both men and women are a recommended thing to attend.

Oh Lord have mercy on us,
For we are sinners.

M-Bob

 

[SnowyMacie]

Quite simply, I don't think any of the passages you quoted are proof or even evidence that ensoulment or life or however you want to phrase it happens at conception. They're all either written about specific people or people just praising God through poetry and song.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

Quite simply, I don't think any of the passages you quoted are proof or even evidence that ensoulment or life or however you want to phrase it happens at conception. They're all either written about specific people or people just praising God through poetry and song.

You're in denial over the clear-cut evidence that the Bible supports the notion that life begins at conception.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Quite simply, I don't think any of the passages you quoted are proof or even evidence that ensoulment or life or however you want to phrase it happens at conception. They're all either written about specific people or people just praising God through poetry and song.

More study may be required?
Life begins when the sperm enters the egg. Has one ever observed that tiny heart beating in the womb? Who can really say that's not alive? And their God does not recognize it and know everything about it?

M-Bob

 

[SnowyMacie]

You're in denial over the clear-cut evidence that the Bible supports the notion that life begins at conception.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

The Bible is written to the church.

What church supports abortion?

M-Bob

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

The Bible is written to the church.

What church supports abortion?

M-Bob

A true Christian church would never support abortion. That's the same thing as supporting murder!

 

[SkyWriting]

How do pro-abortion Christians reconcile their views with pro-life scripture?

Treat a pregnant women's life's with the same concern
you'd like for other people to have a controlling interest in your genitals.
For this is the essence of the Law and the prophets.

 

[sfs]

Proverbs 139:13, “For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.”

Says nothing about when we should start treating the unborn as humans -- all it says is that God formed the speaker in the womb, which all Christians would agree with.

Jeremiah 1:5, “Before you were in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as the prophet of nations.”

Again, says nothing about the status of the unborn. Note that it says that God knew Jeremiah before he was in the womb -- rather like Paul saying that we were chosen from before the foundation of the world. How is this supposed to tell us when a human life starts? If take literally, this would mean that I existed as a human before my conception. Where was I? In my great-great-grandparents' bodies?

Job 31:15, “Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?

Same as the first one.

Psalm 22:10, “From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.”

Doesn't seem to be saying anything at all about the status of the unborn.

Note that I'm not a "pro-abortion Christian" -- I don't know when human life should be considered to start, and I would prefer to err on the side of caution. I just haven't seen a persuasive argument that the Bible says anything about this subject.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

A true Christian church would never support abortion. That's the same thing as supporting murder!

And the ones that call abortion anything other than murder are only deceiving themselves. Self-deception is something to watch out for. True abortion is all about self. Self-centered man and self-centered woman. Giving no thought to God or his concerns for man.

He made them and said they are good.

Who are we to destroy what God says is good?

M-Bob

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

Says nothing about when we should start treating the unborn as humans -- all it says is that God formed the speaker in the womb, which all Christians would agree with.

Again, says nothing about the status of the unborn. Note that it says that God knew Jeremiah before he was in the womb -- rather like Paul saying that we were chosen from before the foundation of the world. How is this supposed to tell us when a human life starts? If take literally, this would mean that I existed as a human before my conception. Where was I? In my great-great-grandparents' bodies?

Same as the first one.

Doesn't seem to be saying anything at all about the status of the unborn.

Note that I'm not a "pro-abortion Christian" -- I don't know when human life should be considered to start, and I would prefer to err on the side of caution. I just haven't seen a persuasive argument that the Bible says anything about this subject.

Would you prefer Luke 1:41? Here it is: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

 

[sfs]

A true Christian church would never support abortion. That's the same thing as supporting murder!

See, this is what I mean about not seeing a persuasive argument. This is usually what I see instead.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Why should I not have an abortion?

 

[sfs]

Would you prefer Luke 1:41? Here it is: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

No, I'd prefer a passage that actually addressed the issue. But I see from your other responses that you weren't actually interested in what other Christians think about this subject -- you just wanted an excuse to rant. Carry on without me.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

No, I'd prefer a passage that actually addressed the issue. But I see from your other responses that you weren't actually interested in what other Christians think about this subject -- you just wanted an excuse to rant. Carry on without me.

Telling you the truth with scripture doesn't constitute a rant.

 

[gordonhooker]

You're in denial over the clear-cut evidence that the Bible supports the notion that life begins at conception.

You asked for people to respond to your question (subject line) then you attack their response. If you are not looking for a response that agrees with your beliefs, why ask the question in the first place?

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

You asked for people to respond to your question (subject line) then you attack their response. If you are not looking for a response that agrees with your beliefs, why ask the question in the first place?

I didn't attack anyone.

 

[gordonhooker]

I didn't attack anyone.

Telling someone they are in denial is attacking their response.

 

[Junker P Hoodwink]

Telling someone they are in denial is attacking their response.

No it isn't.