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How concerned should Christians be about climate change?

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by OldWiseGuy, Jan 27, 2020.

  1. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Considering that what we're seeing was for the most part prophecied, as well as the powerful forces that appear to be deliberately destroying the earth, how much of our personal resources (time, effort, money) should we commit to 'saving' the earth?
     
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  2. Zoii

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    If you care at all for the generations below you, and for those yet to be born, then your commitment should be absolute. That doesn't mean giving up your laptop or only riding a bicycle. It means to put your influence behind an alternative supply of energy that doesn't add to greenhouse emissions eg geothermal, solar, wind, hydro.

    It means making a sincere commitment to lowering your use of plastics and reducing your footprint.

    Its not so drastic - the result will be a cleaner, quieter earth. However, doing nothing will be apocalyptic. Now I fully get that this is a Christian site so many will be thinking - Great - we want the end of the earth because its foretold in Revelations and so we want to make the earth worse not better. I acknowledge I have to work against that type of thinking in the interest of my generation and my children.
     
  3. joshua 1 9

    joshua 1 9 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    We are told that God will destroy those who destroy the earth (Rev 11:18) We know that God will save "those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it." (Ezekiel 9:4) "creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God." (Romans 8:21)
     
  4. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    What very clearly does Jesus say to everyone who wants to be His disciple. ?

    (or , in different words here, who is to be Lord and Master ? )
     
  5. Strathos

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  6. Norbert L

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    It's like being caught between a rock and a hard place. It's not as if people can move to Alaska and live of the land. I believe time will tell if everything goes to pot or over the decades the environmental concerns will eventually be viewed like the boy who cried wolf.

    Biblically it seems that the economy and life in general will still have enough affluence so that the catastrophic conditions can be ignored. Matthew 24:37-39 Revelation 18:11
     
  7. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Merchants, riches, influence :
    Revelation 18 King James Version (KJV)
    18 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

    2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
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    As it was in the days of Noah, all the world refuses to repent of worshiping demons.
    They all perished then, and they will all perish again.

    www.biblegateway.com › passage › search=Matthew+24:37-39

    Matthew 24:37-39 NIV - As it was in the days of Noah, so it ...

    As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking,

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    Revelation 18
    15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

    16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

    17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

    18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

    19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

    20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
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    biblehub.com › revelation

    Revelation 9:20 Now the rest of mankind who were not killed ...

    But the people who did not die in these plagues still refused to repent of their evil ... They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, ...
    www.bibleref.com › Revelation › Revelation-9-20

    What does Revelation 9:20 mean? - Bible Ref

    Revelation 9:20, NIV: "The rest of mankind who were not killed by these ... they did not stop worshiping demons, and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone and ... NLT: "But the people who did not die in these plagues still refused to repent of their ...
    www.biblegateway.com › verse › Revelation 9:20

    Revelation 9:20 - Bible Gateway

    They didn't stop worshipping demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and ... But the men left alive after these plagues still refused to worship God!
     
  8. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Men curse God because of the heat:
    biblehub.com › revelation

    Revelation 16:9 And the people were scorched by intense ...

    New International Version They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to ...
    biblehub.com › revelation

    Revelation 16:11 and curse the God of heaven for their pains ...

    and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they ... And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, ...
    www.biblegateway.com › passage › search=Revelation+16:9

    Revelation 16:9 KJV - And men were scorched with great heat ...

    And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
     
  9. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    Even if God decided to destroy the earth tomorrow, it doesn't at all take away the responsibility he gave humankind to be good stewards of the earth. He never said anything to the effect that it was okay to help him destroy it, or to just sit back and and do nothing because of some belief that God is going to eventually destroy it anyway.

    So yes, Christians should be concerned about climate change and help do whatever is needed for stewardship of the earth until and if God decides it to be unnecessary.
     
  10. Sketcher

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    I'd love to see more nuclear power. We can already do that, and it's not dependent on the weather.

    As someone who believes the prophesies in Revelation and 2 Peter and the Gospels, I really don't see any sort of imperative to actively make the planet filthier. The only imperative we have to speed Christ's coming is to spread the Gospel to every tongue, tribe, and nation.
     
  11. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Those born of the Father by His Will from heaven, do as He Says, already.

    There's not nearly sufficient to change society to do what is right, let alone even what is needed.
     
  12. miamited

    miamited Ted Supporter

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    HI OWG,

    Well, my personal take on it is that it's God's earth. If He wants it saved He's certainly mighty enough to do that. However, the Revelation of Jesus seems to pretty clearly make the point that God isn't going to preserve this earth in its present form either.

    God bless,
    In Christ, ted
     
  13. Halbhh

    Halbhh Everything You say is Life to me Supporter

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    Well, we should only do what's right and then not worry personally. We all are going to die, these temporary bodies that is, one way or another. If not flood or hurricane, then cancer or heart attack.

    What's right regarding Earth ?

    Don't trash it.
     
  14. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    The planet has been made "filthier" by leaps and bounds by radioactive waste and such, including the radioactive waste (trillions of gallons?) from oil wells, etc, not just bombs and nuclear reactors.
     
  15. bekkilyn

    bekkilyn Contemplative Christian Supporter

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    And yet we are still to do what we can.
     
  16. Sketcher

    Sketcher Born Imperishable

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    The newer reactors are much cleaner than the older ones, and we have plenty of land in the US that isn't near a fault line.
     
  17. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Again, already, those born again by the will of the Father in heaven already do all that the Father says DO.

    There's no "and yet" as if we can wait until we feel like it.
     
  18. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Too late.
    Already decades ago everyone including newborns had radioactivity in their bone marrow.

    What is already present is likely never going to be cleaned up UNTIL Jesus Returns, although some say it will be a thousand years of no cities on earth - everything desolate and barren while the earth recovers.... whatever God's Ways is, it will be that way. His Way.
     
  19. Aussie Pete

    Aussie Pete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    None. Let's give towards the extension of the Kingdom of God. This earth has a "use-by" date and it God who determines that.
     
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