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How close was the vote to acquit Trump?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by blackribbon, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. stevil

    stevil Godless and without morals

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    Sure, but that doesn't generally become the most defining feature of those people, of a summation of their personalities.

    If asked to provide three words to define a person,
    Very, very few would say "narcissistic" with regards to Obama

    But I would think a very high percentage of people would say "narcissistic" with regards to Trump.


    Noone is suggesting that being "narcissistic" disqualifies Trump from running for office.

    I would think, given three words very, very few people would ascribe "narcissistic" with regards to Hilary.

    It was a close race, she got 3 million more votes than Trump, but lost on the Electoral system, there were also the issues of Russia interference in favour of Trump and Comey publicly stating that her email server was back under investigation.
    I would think most people in a close race like this would feel a bit hard done by.

    OK, guess it depends on your definition of "Evil" and your ability to know what is another's heart.

    She has spent her life devoted to public service.

    Trump has spent his life devoted to his own monetary gains and his own public image as being wealthy and powerful and able to get beautiful women.
    The betterment of society and country have never been shown to be of concern to him.

    BTW, he gained a massive sum early on from his father handing it to him whilst illegally evading taxes. He also lost over a billion dollars over the span of a decade and hence even to this day doesn't pay much in taxes.

    Sure.
     
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  2. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    Hilarious thread!
     
  3. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Especially in light of Biden's lackluster showings in the most recent primaries... Donald went and got himself impeached for digging up dirt on a guy his opponents don't even like.

    He picks his enemies as poorly as he picks his employees.
     
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  4. whatbogsends

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    I would think that at least part of Biden's poor performance is related to Burisma, Ukraine, etc., so I don't think Trump's focus on Biden was inconsequential.

    Personally, i'm glad Biden's not doing well, as I think he's one of the weaker candidates in terms of facing Trump.
     
  5. KCfromNC

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    Yes, a number of GOP Senators admitted that the House had fully proved the charges against Donald.
     
  6. KCfromNC

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    A number of them said that the House testimony showed that he did it. One of them even vote to convict. Hardly partisan, except in the sense that the GOP didn't seem to care that he abused his power and obstructed Congress. Or were too scared to do anything about it.
     
  7. Albion

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    Really? And yet they voted to acquit.

    Will you name a few of these Senators who you say "admitted that the House had fully proved the charges...?"
     
  8. KCfromNC

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    Yeah, a pretty pathetic move on their parts. I doubt the electorate will forget.

    Sure. Alexander and Rubio.
     
  9. Albion

    Albion Factchecker

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    Neither Alexander or Rubio said what you claimed here, but thanks for naming those you had in mind.
     
  10. GoldenBoy89

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    Senator Collins said he did it and that it was wrong but not impeachable.
     
  11. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    Oh yes they did.
     
  12. Albion

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    Well, I just rechecked the actual wording and found that they did not.

    I know that when liberal publications go on the attack, "close enough" is good enough for them, if they are out to defame some opponent. However, if the reader takes the time to notice all the paraphrases of what was actually said, it is clear what both of these Senators were saying and that neither of them said what was alleged.
     
  13. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    One of these days, you might surprise Albion and actually post a link to a transcript....
     
  14. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    What did they actually say then?

    Tell us the real meaning we’re all missing here.
     
  15. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    Wrong.
     
  16. Albion

    Albion Factchecker

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    What's wrong?
     
  17. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    The senators have said that Trump did what the Democrats charged him of doing in Ukraine. The basic charge has been proven. The senators just get to decide for themselves whether the action is an impeachable offense or not.
     
  18. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    This.
     
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  19. Albion

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    They most empathetically did NOT say that the charges against the president had been proven. Yet that is what you supported.

    Therefore, you were wrong. You might say something else about their reaction being not supportive,or that they criticized the decision made by him concerning Ukraine, but not what you did.
     
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  20. GoldenBoy89

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    He was charged with withholding military and monetary aid to Ukraine and had tied it to investigations requested into the Bidens and the 2016 election. That’s what he did. Thats what the evidence shows. That’s what the senators are saying was wrong but still not impeachable.
     
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