How are we to explain these "miracles?"

[AV1611VET]

Seriously though, even you should be skeptical of claimed miracles given how much they are faked.

I'm skeptical of certain types of miracles ... especially in this dispensation.

Medical miracles, I use a lot of latitude on.

Meteorological miracles get honorable mention.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'm skeptical of certain types of miracles ... especially in this dispensation.

Medical miracles, I use a lot of latitude on.

Meteorological miracles get honorable mention.

What Heiss describes is a sort of medical miracle that is very often faked: the lengthening of a previously "stunted or short" limb.

 

[AV1611VET]

What Heiss describes is a sort of medical miracle that is very often faked: the lengthening of a previously "stunted or short" limb.

Jesus walks on water; Chriss Angel walks on water.

God heals an arm; [some fake] "heals" an arm.

Let's see some faker fake crossing the Red Sea.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Jesus walks on water; Chriss Angel walks on water.

God heals an arm; [some fake] "heals" an arm.

Let's see some faker fake crossing the Red Sea.

Sure, that would definitely pass as a miracle to me if someone parted the Red Sea like that. But obviously, I would need actual evidence that it happened.

But you see why so many people are tired of Heiss looking down on people because of what he claimed to have witnessed, right?

 

[selfinflikted]

I'm skeptical of certain types of miracles ... especially in this dispensation.

Medical miracles, I use a lot of latitude on.

Meteorological miracles get honorable mention.

AV, what do you make of Heiss's claim of a lengthening arm miracle? I'd be interested to hear your pov.

 

[AV1611VET]

But you see why so many people are tired of Heiss looking down on people because of what he claimed to have witnessed, right?

When Jesus returns to the earth with us saints, we're all going to be looking down on people.

 

[PsychoSarah]

When Jesus returns to the earth with us saints, we're all going to be looking down on people.

You know what I mean, he treats people as lesser to himself as a result of this. Is that not the sin of pride?

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, what do you make of Heiss's claim of a lengthening arm miracle? I'd be interested to hear your pov.

Um ... er ... well.

It's kinda like this ... you see ... uh ... miracles of that nature ... [swallows hard] ... in my opinion ... don't really ... well ...

Um ...

Sorry -- I don't understand your question.

 

[AV1611VET]

You know what I mean, he treats people as lesser to himself as a result of this. Is that not the sin of pride?

I'll be honest.

I haven't been following his posts, and I don't know what all he's seen and what he hasn't seen.

It's not my call.

 

[PsychoSarah]

I'll be honest.

I haven't been following his posts, and I don't know what all he's seen and what he hasn't seen.

It's not my call.

IMHO, he got scammed big time.

 

[selfinflikted]

Um ... er ... well.

It's kinda like this ... you see ... uh ... miracles of that nature ... [swallows hard] ... in my opinion ... don't really ... well ...

Um ...

Sorry -- I don't understand your question.

Gotcha.

 

[theophilus777]

Provide evidence your personal miracle happened Heiss, or stop talking about it

No that's not the way it works. On any level.

 

[AV1611VET]

No that's not the way it works. On any level.

What's with people coming here recently and throwing their weight around?

Like they're some kind of rogue mod or something.

It must feel good to boss Christians around, eh?

 

[theophilus777]

Feed me to the lions. Go ahead, I double dog dare ya.

Sarah thinks she can use "investigative tools" on a miracle she only knows about via internet claim. Now THAT is faith!!!

"I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel." (Mt 8:10)

 

[AV1611VET]

Sarah thinks she can use "investigative tools" on a miracle she only knows about via internet claim. Now THAT is faith!!!

I wonder what real scientists™ think, when they see these "junior scientists" and "scientist wannabes" telling others how they should follow their scientific method.

Like I do with those who are against evolution, they probably think to themselves:

"Oh, well. As long as they're against creationism, that's okay with me."

 

[Heissonear]

And Branham's miracles do a great job of testifying to the greatness of Branham -- he just might be the second coming.

Mazel tov.

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You twisted it. Read Branhan's own words, repetitively stated, "I can do nothing. It is the Lord Jesus that Heals".

You repetitively ploy. Noticeably. And degrade. Repetitively. Why? What has soured you?

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[Heissonear]

I'm skeptical of certain types of miracles ... especially in this dispensation.

Medical miracles, I use a lot of latitude on.

Meteorological miracles get honorable mention.

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Fully respected. I'm avoiding "doctrines". The main emphasis of presenting the healings performed with William Branham, whether they be from God or Satan, was the indisputable fact THEY WERE SUPERNATURAL.

We have so many on CF who toss Christianity, the Bible, and even God in a trash can, because they think that they are not real nor truth. All they think exists is the natural world.

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[AV1611VET]

Fully respected.

Thank you! I was concerned that I would offend you; and I certainly did not want to do that!

 

[Heissonear]

I don't rule them out, but:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Matthew 16:12 He sighed deeply and said, "Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it."
John 20:29 blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

I do not expect or ask for a sign. Miracles may be of some benefit those who are weak of faith, but they profit me nothing. Those same who may be reassured by such signs, frauds are far more likely to cause them to fall away when they are exposed.

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Some may view Miracles as of no importance or personal need, even if they may be from God. That's fair.

However, some may learn God performs every Miracle with select and precise circumstances and purposes.

Notice the setting and circumstances of the Miracles presented in the Bible. The Intelligence, the Purpose, and the Precision are resounding. If the Lord is the one doing it the same applies to His Miracles performed in our day and age, particularly in the end times.

The "some benefit" may be re-examined.

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[TLK Valentine]

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You twisted it. Read Branhan's own words, repetitively stated, "I can do nothing. It is the Lord Jesus that Heals".

it's still Branham who gets the money.

Fake humility is what separates the religious con from the would-be cult leader.