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TLK, this is exactly what makes you so sure a poverty stricken man would refuse a drink of water, relief from dysentary, food now and the ability to grow his own.
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What spiritual realm, Heiss?
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That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that born of Spirit is spirit.
Unless one is born again through the Spirit of God they cannot SEE the Kingdom of God in our midst.
When you say what Spiritual realm you bear witness of what is born of flesh, and the Spiritual you cannot apprehend firsthand.
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TLK, this is exactly what makes you so sure a poverty stricken man would refuse a drink of water, relief from dysentary, food now and the ability to grow his own.
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That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that born of Spirit is spirit.
Unless one is born again through the Spirit of God they cannot SEE the Kingdom of God in our midst.
When you say what Spiritual realm you bear witness of what is born of flesh, and the Spiritual you cannot apprehend firsthand.
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Sorry Sarah, this is just prejudice on your part. You clearly don't even know what it is. You really wouldn't confuse something a man was buried in with an artifact of His Mother's, knowing He was ripped open from head to toe and His burial cloth would've been matted to his no longer existent skin and coagulated into one big scab.
This wouldn't be a miracle anyway, so your concept of "fake miracle" can't apply.
How about them? You really think you have evidence of this? I think what you have is hearsay.
What is that supposed to mean?
I don't think so, no. Who pays someone to do this? Not for Christians, which is your claim.
This has got me thinking now. Jesus says in the bible that we need to become like little children when it come to a faith in God. So children dont know everything thats going on yet will trust their parents with their whole heart to feel safe. They will hold their parents hand when crossing the road putting their life in the hands of their mums. So when it come to people who are mentally disabled they dont know what all the circumstances of what is going on either. Yet you often hear a innocent and whole hearted belief from them when they speak of God. If it was up to understanding everything and being able to discern things then some would find it impossible. Luckily a belief in God isn't dependent on this.Not saying that fundamentalism is always stupid. But fundamentalism can be parodied, and that parody can be misunderstood as sincere, and thusly generate a poe.
It applies to anything, really. Even atheism.
Now, name one person who claims to be born again in the spirit whom I should take at their word.
.This has got me thinking now. Jesus says in the bible that we need to become like little children when it come to a faith in God. So children dont know everything thats going on yet will trust their parents with their whole heart to feel safe. They will hold their parents hand when crossing the road putting their life in the hands of their mums. So when it come to people who are mentally disabled they dont know what all the circumstances of what is going on either. Yet you often hear a innocent and whole hearted belief from them when they speak of God. If it was up to understanding everything and being able to discern things then some would find it impossible. Luckily a belief in God isn't dependent on this.
Look around, God is not a respecter of persons.
You do not need to look at the lofty in Christianity.
Particularly THIS IS THE DAY which God is leveling EVERYTHING; debasing those who have promoted themselves and raising up the lowly, in Christianity, those who have called upon Him.
There is a reason to gain maturity in the Spiritual, to be able to walk and not stumble or fall. Some treat Spiritual things and maturity as something they can do without, only to eventually find out ignorance is not blessed, and they fall prey to stumbling blocks.
You have seen corruption in religions, including Christianity, but what is clearly obvious is you have only seen the church in the world, the church acting like the world, the corrupt Christian church. Spiritual maturity again is NEEDED to walk through such less you stumble. Some only know stumbling: they become a this or that, rather than truly continuing to follow Him.
I would tend to agree with that. Something which defies natural law is a big deal if it happens, but is merely deception if it does not. That said, I believe our understanding of nature is flawed in that it doesn't include the supernatural; which is as real as the natural world. Seeing an angel or a demon doesn't violate natural law, only your understanding of natural law. Floating an ax head on water violates natural law because it overrides the law of gravity as it relates to the density of an object.I view anything people claim to be a miracle of the nature of it defying nature which is shown not to be is a fake miracle.
People will always try to explain miracles away. Such as those that see heaven or hell when they die (and then come back to life). Just like science tries to disprove anything in the bible and even God. Despite lots of evidence supporting things they don't truly care about that. And of course as I say this it leads to "Give me some evidence!", just so they can shoot it down anyways with "ideas" on why its wrong. Hence why I stopped providing evidence.
That aside. There was a man with end stage cancer (don't remember what kind it was) locally. His doctor told him he had weeks to live after the treatments weren't doing anything. One night his church came in and prayed over him. Asking for a miracle. The next morning he said he felt great. The doctors gave him some tests just to show him nothing had changed. But to their surprise his cancer was totally gone. 100%. The doctors who don't believe in God say it was a miracle.
EXplain that?
Miracles happen.
The Supernatural exists.
Many on this Forum do not look very hard, nor openly.
If you want documentation on Miracles that happened by the thousands just research carefully what the Supernatural did through William Branham between 1948 to 1952.
My only concern in this particular thread is the miracle you claimed to have seen.
These have never been faced except through doubt and denial!!!
1. How did a small severely deformed arm lengthen over twice its size and become normal over the course of time of about eight seconds?
2. What HAD TO occur, biologically and physically to the arm?
3. Were cells and other biological materials Created?
[serious];65805590 said:Was the child wearing a lose shirt or bulky clothes? Was the entire arm and shoulder joint visible?
Was the faith healer holding the arm when it lengthened?
Did the mother tell you explicitly that the child's arm was shorter than the other? not deformed in an unspecified way, but actually saying "this arm is half the length of the other"?
These have never been faced except through doubt and denial!!!
1. How did a small severely deformed arm lengthen over twice its size and become normal over the course of time of about eight seconds?
2. What HAD TO occur, biologically and physically to the arm?
3. Were cells and other biological materials Created?
If you want documentation on Miracles that happened by the thousands just research carefully what the Supernatural did through William Branham between 1948 to 1952.
[serious];65892014 said:I'll answer yours if you'll answer mine.
1. It didn't. The limb appeared shorter because it was being held closer to the body and obscured by clothing
2. Light traction was placed on the arm encouraging the child to reach it out
3. No, because it was a change in position, not size.
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