How’s your salvation tower coming along?

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Will you be able to finish your salvation tower?
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough
to finish it —
lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’?” (Luke 14:26-30)
We cannot be a disciple of Jesus
● IF we love ourselves (or a relative) more than Jesus
● IF we do not bear our crosses and come after Jesus
Jesus warns us to count the cost
● of being a follower of Jesus
● of building our salvation tower
● of laying a proper foundation
● of finishing the whole process
● of enduring the shame of not finishing

Are you taking up Jesus' cross and following Him?
“Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself,
and take up his cross, and
follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?" (Matthew 16:24-26)
Jesus warns us to count the cost
● of coming after Him (being His disciple)
● of denying ourselves
● of taking up our crosses
● of losing our fleshly desires for His sake
● of exchanging our fleshly desires for eternal life

Back to foundations
“But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord’, and not do
the things which I say?
Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock.
But he who heard and did nothing is like a
man who built a house on the earth without
a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it
fell.
And the ruin of that house was great.”
(Luke 6:46-49)

Jesus warns us
● to obey His teachings (for this is most critical)
● to dig deep when building our salvation house
● to build our foundation on the Rock who is Jesus

Remember the narrow gate and the narrow way?
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate
and broad is the way that leads to destruction
(eternal death), and there are many who go in
by it.
Because narrow is the gate and difficult
is the way which leads to (eternal) life,
and there are few who find it.”(Matthew 7:13-14)


Let’s not forget
“… as He who called you is holy, you also
be holy in all your conduct, because it is written,
'Be holy, for I am holy.' ” (1 Peter 1:15-16)
“… those who are with Him (Jesus) are
called, chosen, and faithful.” (Revelation 17:1)
 
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It appears that many here do not want to admit
that their salvation tower is in dire need of repair!

While you're still breathing ...
it's not too late to get with God's program!

This begins by sincerely repenting of your sins.
Then, approach the NT with a completely OPEN
heart and mind ... free of all false doctrines.
Read God's word, the NT, with understanding
... asking the precious Holy Spirit to reveal
whatever you need to be made aware of.
 
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It appears that many here do not want to admit
that their salvation tower is in dire need of repair!

While you're still breathing ...
it's not too late to get with God's program!

This begins by sincerely repenting of your sins.
Then, approach the NT with a completely OPEN
heart and mind ... free of all false doctrines.
Read God's word, the NT, with understanding
... asking the precious Holy Spirit to reveal
whatever you need to be made aware of.

I don't have a 'salvation tower'. I rely solely on what He's done for me already. But you have fun over there on that imaginary tower of yours.
 
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I don't have a 'salvation tower'. I rely solely on what He's done for me already. But you have fun over there on that imaginary tower of yours.
Didest thou foist countest the cost?
"For which of you, intending to build a tower,
does not sit down first and count the cost,
whether he has enough to finish it" (Luke 14)
 
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There is no such thing as a Salvation tower.

Salvation is through Jesus, Luke 19:10; Acts of the Apostles 4:12.
Jesus has done it all - we can't build, make or do anything to contribute to, or earn, salvation.
 
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Jesus has done it all - we can't build, make or do anything to contribute to, or earn, salvation
That is somewhat true.
It's difficult to say we can earn it.
But, we can throw it away, fall away from it, etc.
How many dozens of NT verses would you care to see?
 
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What we have here in all of my threads ...
are people unwilling to tackle the NT verses,
which I have presented.
Instead, they choose to attack me personally.
I guess that's better for them than attacking
the Lord who had the verses put in the NT.
 
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What we have here in all of my threads ...
are people unwilling to tackle the NT verses,
which I have presented.
Instead, they choose to attack me personally.
I guess that's better for them than attacking
the Lord who had the verses put in the NT.

I've read your threads, and people tackle your NT scripture left and right. You just don't seem to pay any attention to it. As for personal attacks, the problem isn't with the verses, but rather with the way you force them into your own theology. So, if that's what you consider a personal attack on you, then you kind of invited it onto yourself.
 
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I've read your threads, and people tackle your NT scripture left and right. You just don't seem to pay any attention to it.
It has been extremely rare when someone actually
refutes a NT verse that I have presented as proof
that salvation is conditional upon such as:
endurance, practicing righteousness, obedience.

I have offered to provide one page of NT verses
for any one of the above necessary conditions,
but no one has ever responded, asking to see anything!

What is not rare is when someone just presents
a list of so-called eternal security NT verses
as a rebuttal to the NT verses I have presented.

Is anyone here really interested in pursuing the Truth,
or do they just want to cling onto their favorite doctrines?
 
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Is anyone here really interested in pursuing the Truth,
or do they just want to cling onto their favorite doctrines?

A great question for you to consider when you have moments of clarity when you realize you are not maintaining the constant perfection from birth that God requires.
 
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... realize you are not maintaining the constant perfection from birth that God requires.
Realize that it's one's heart attitude that counts.
Is one striving to please God, to obey Him, etc.?
Is one repenting of his known sins?
Try it, you might like it ... God will like it.
 
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MMbob,
Is the precious saint reminding you abide in post #14?

Yes
Along with a few other good Godly Bible suggestions. Meant to be followed. My middle name should have been Repent.
Bob Repent Mountainman
M-Bob
 
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Here's the deal.

In every thread that I start with an OP ...
I post several NT verses which PROVE the OP title.

People respond against the OP title ...
without dealing with the verses in the OP.

Often, they post the NT verses that they prefer ...
without dealing with the verses in the OP.

It should be obvious that one needs to actually
deal with the verses presented in the OP ...
instead of ignoring and/or rejecting them!
 
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Here's the deal.

In every thread that I start with an OP ...
I post several NT verses which PROVE the OP title.

People respond against the OP title ...
without dealing with the verses in the OP.

Often, they post the NT verses that they prefer ...
without dealing with the verses in the OP.

It should be obvious that one needs to actually
deal with the verses presented in the OP ...
instead of ignoring and/or rejecting them!

Point well taken.
Sorry
M-Bob
 
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