Hospital To Kill 10-Month-Old Baby Rather Than Let His Parents Send Him To The US For Treatment

Should Charlie be kept by the hospital to die, or be given the chance to try and live

  • Kept to die

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Ten-month old Charlie Gard is dying.

The beautiful little baby suffers from a rare genetic condition, and his parents were prepared to let the boy pass away quietly in a London hospital, where he has been cared for since he was born.

But then they discovered an experimental treatment in the United States. It’s a slim chance, and the odds are it won’t help, but parents Chris Gard and Connie Yates wanted to try.

The hospital – the Ormond Street Hospital for Children – had already decided that young Charlie Gard should die. And they were going to do it.

Their government panel ruled that he should be taken off life support so he can “die with dignity.”

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hospital-to-kill-baby
 

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https://www.gofundme.com/please-help-to-save-charlies-life

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My understanding is that the child has already suffered irreversible brain damage. To me at least dying with dignity is preferable to life as a vegetable.
 
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Pope Francis tweeted: "To defend human life, above all when it is wounded by illness, is a duty of love that God entrusts to all".

Now, Pediatric Hospital Bambino Gesu, known as the 'Pope's Hospital' and sits close to the Vatican's walls, has offered to give the 10-month-old sanctuary.

Pope's hospital offers to take care of Charlie Gard
 
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My understanding is that the child has already suffered irreversible brain damage. To me at least dying with dignity is preferable to life as a vegetable.

The parents want a second opinion, by a US hospital. Why should they be prevented from obtaining a second opinion?
 
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The parents want a second opinion, by a US hospital. Why should they be prevented from obtaining a second opinion?

Great Ormond Street has some of the finest doctors in the world (I've been there, in fact).
 
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How smug they've become over there across the pond after allowing all those muslims to invade. Shameful.
Forget six degrees of Kevin Bacon, six degrees of blame imagined Islamization.
 
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Terry Shivo two, international boogaloo.

Terry Schiavo suffered horribly as she died a slow and agonizing death as the judge prohibited her parents and her family from even giving her ice.

God have mercy.
 
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Ten-month old Charlie Gard is dying.

The beautiful little baby suffers from a rare genetic condition, and his parents were prepared to let the boy pass away quietly in a London hospital, where he has been cared for since he was born.

But then they discovered an experimental treatment in the United States. It’s a slim chance, and the odds are it won’t help, but parents Chris Gard and Connie Yates wanted to try.

The hospital – the Ormond Street Hospital for Children – had already decided that young Charlie Gard should die. And they were going to do it.

Their government panel ruled that he should be taken off life support so he can “die with dignity.”

http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/hospital-to-kill-baby
Perhaps a less biased site would have explained better. First off the treatment is not a cure. There is no cure from this ailment. The treatment may ease some of the symptoms, but the few times it has have not been in such advanced cases:

Charlie Gard: Pope and Trump offer parents support - BBC News

Right now Charlie Gard has severe brain damage, he cannot breathe or swallow on his own. He is being kept alive with machinery. Odds are that the organ damage that he has had also has put him in pain.

Sadly Charlie will die soon, no matter what. Death with dignity in this case means death without excessive pain. Death without going into total mental degeneration. I can understand why the parents don't want to let go. But what the hospital wants to do is not "killing" him. They merely want to take him off of life support. Sometimes when the parents can't let go the hospital has to step in.

My mother passed away this year. She had a do not resuscitate order, but had a heart attack away from home where the order was. CPR brought her back, but the damage had been done to her hear and made worse by the CPR which broke some of her ribs. That is fairly common among the elderly. CPR strong enough to bring them back will also break bones. She made it clear that she did not want CPR again in the hospital. She got well enough to die in her home where she wanted to. That was death with dignity. Heroic efforts at times only puts the patient in prolonged pain.

It would be nice if there was a cure, but it is very apparent that there is not. How much pain and suffering must this baby go through to satisfy those that would try to "save" him?
 
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Terry Schiavo suffered horribly as she died a slow and agonizing death as the judge prohibited her parents and her family from even giving her ice.

Terry didn't exist in any meaningful way at that point.

I was actually cheering on the little kids the prolifers sent in with glasses of water. It would have been beyond ironic for them to have killed her by aspirating water as she couldn't swallow at that point...
 
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Great Ormond Street has some of the finest doctors in the world (I've been there, in fact).

That's what they all say. Does that give the government the right to force the child to remain in that hospital? I thought freedom to choose care and doctors was an essential factor in medical care.

...They want to leave with their child now.
 
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Perhaps a less biased site would have explained better. First off the treatment is not a cure. There is no cure from this ailment. The treatment may ease some of the symptoms, but the few times it has have not been in such advanced cases:

Charlie Gard: Pope and Trump offer parents support - BBC News

Right now Charlie Gard has severe brain damage, he cannot breathe or swallow on his own. He is being kept alive with machinery. Odds are that the organ damage that he has had also has put him in pain.

Sadly Charlie will die soon, no matter what. Death with dignity in this case means death without excessive pain. Death without going into total mental degeneration. I can understand why the parents don't want to let go. But what the hospital wants to do is not "killing" him. They merely want to take him off of life support. Sometimes when the parents can't let go the hospital has to step in.

My mother passed away this year. She had a do not resuscitate order, but had a heart attack away from home where the order was. CPR brought her back, but the damage had been done to her hear and made worse by the CPR which broke some of her ribs. That is fairly common among the elderly. CPR strong enough to bring them back will also break bones. She made it clear that she did not want CPR again in the hospital. She got well enough to die in her home where she wanted to. That was death with dignity. Heroic efforts at times only puts the patient in prolonged pain.

It would be nice if there was a cure, but it is very apparent that there is not. How much pain and suffering must this baby go through to satisfy those that would try to "save" him?

This should be the end of the thread. But it won't be.
 
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