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I am a young adult ( recently turned 26) and I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? I live in the south ( Bible belt) The fact is gay is here and it always has been and the fact is that frankly whether a person is gay or not has NO impact on their ability to preform most jobs ( unless it is based at a church Also, I find it wrong to refuse to serve someone on that basis ( provided that it is not something like a wedding cake or pictures for their wedding, nor quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex ( provided they do not like do it in public or something but that applies to everyone there are just some things that should be private. I mean you do not asks other couples about the bedroom ( or should not unless you are say a medical professional and the issue at hand has something to do with that. I am stuck I do not want to say it is OK, but at the same time I do not want to treat them like they have three eyes or refuse to help/serve/ hire them ( if I was in such a position). Where is that line because my young brain cannot seem to find it?
 

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I am a young adult ( recently turned 26) and I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? I live in the south ( Bible belt) The fact is gay is here and it always has been and the fact is that frankly whether a person is gay or not has NO impact on their ability to preform most jobs ( unless it is based at a church Also, I find it wrong to refuse to serve someone on that basis ( provided that it is not something like a wedding cake or pictures for their wedding, nor quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex ( provided they do not like do it in public or something but that applies to everyone there are just some things that should be private. I mean you do not asks other couples about the bedroom ( or should not unless you are say a medical professional and the issue at hand has something to do with that. I am stuck I do not want to say it is OK, but at the same time I do not want to treat them like they have three eyes or refuse to help/serve/ hire them ( if I was in such a position). Where is that line because my young brain cannot seem to find it?
We live in the nations under secular rule and cannot impose our understanding of righteousness on others. So, yes... we can't discriminate but we also don't have to accept. In other words, we can be nice, pleasant, warm... without condoning their sin. One of the things that does bother me about homosexuality (and understand, I am a very straight married man) is that for some reason some Christians elevate this sin (homosexuality) above others. They don't post about divorce, broken vows, adultery, abuse... but they do rant about the gays as if this is the sin of all sins. It isn't... it is a sin... but it is only elevated in the minds of the unlearned.
 
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How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex

Love the person, do not support the person's behavior
 
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We live in the nations under secular rule and cannot impose our understanding of righteousness on others. So, yes... we can't discriminate but we also don't have to accept. In other words, we can be nice, pleasant, warm... without condoning their sin. One of the things that does bother me about homosexuality (and understand, I am a very straight married man) is that for some reason some Christians elevate this sin (homosexuality) above others. They don't post about divorced, broken vows, adultery, abuse... but they do rant about the gays as if this is the sin of all sins. It isn't... it is a sin... but it is only elevated in the minds of the unlearned.
That drives me nuts too I am not sure what it is about homosexuality people find super bad, but have no problem with any number of other sins.
 
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but um how?

Treat the person with dignity and respect. Treat them with kindness, love, compassion....

Just act normal around them....be their friend.....
 
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I am a young adult ( recently turned 26) and I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? I live in the south ( Bible belt) The fact is gay is here and it always has been and the fact is that frankly whether a person is gay or not has NO impact on their ability to preform most jobs ( unless it is based at a church Also, I find it wrong to refuse to serve someone on that basis ( provided that it is not something like a wedding cake or pictures for their wedding, nor quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex ( provided they do not like do it in public or something but that applies to everyone there are just some things that should be private. I mean you do not asks other couples about the bedroom ( or should not unless you are say a medical professional and the issue at hand has something to do with that. I am stuck I do not want to say it is OK, but at the same time I do not want to treat them like they have three eyes or refuse to help/serve/ hire them ( if I was in such a position). Where is that line because my young brain cannot seem to find it?

You can say it is not ok and still treat them with love.... Love the sinner hate the sin..

Do i love others.... Yes
Are they guilty of sins .... Yes
Is my love for sinning human beings a show of support for their sinning.... No

So with homosexuals.. like any other human beings that sin we can love them and at the same time let it be known that their actions are sin and warn them of the judgement of God.. And give them the Good News ( The Gospel ) that Jesus came and died to pay the penalty of their sins and encourage them to believe Jesus and trust in his atonement for the forgiveness of their sins....
 
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That drives me nuts too I am not sure what it is about homosexuality people find super bad, but have no problem with any number of other sins.

Most people do not argue that stealing is wrong ... Most people do not argue against the fact that murder is wrong... Most people don't even argue that cheating on your husband /wife is ok...

The reason why there is such a focus on homosexuality is because there is a movement dedicated to seeing homosexuality declared to be good and make anyone who declares it to be wrong to be declared guilty of hate speech and thrown in Prison..

So the focus on homosexuality is a reaction to the movement that wants it to be accepted as a good thing and the Bible that condemns it to be declared an evil book worthy of being banned..
 
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I am a young adult ( recently turned 26) and I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? I live in the south ( Bible belt) The fact is gay is here and it always has been and the fact is that frankly whether a person is gay or not has NO impact on their ability to preform most jobs ( unless it is based at a church Also, I find it wrong to refuse to serve someone on that basis ( provided that it is not something like a wedding cake or pictures for their wedding, nor quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex ( provided they do not like do it in public or something but that applies to everyone there are just some things that should be private. I mean you do not asks other couples about the bedroom ( or should not unless you are say a medical professional and the issue at hand has something to do with that. I am stuck I do not want to say it is OK, but at the same time I do not want to treat them like they have three eyes or refuse to help/serve/ hire them ( if I was in such a position). Where is that line because my young brain cannot seem to find it?
Can you love people and hate their sin? Can you forgive a murderer? Can you give the guy who cuts you off on the highway the benefit of the doubt? See? It's a matter of degrees. You know you're a sinner, right? Won't you love it when someone forgives your offense? Then pay it forward. You can abhor the act of homosexuality while still loving the person who does it.
 
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I am a young adult ( recently turned 26) and I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes? I live in the south ( Bible belt) The fact is gay is here and it always has been and the fact is that frankly whether a person is gay or not has NO impact on their ability to preform most jobs ( unless it is based at a church Also, I find it wrong to refuse to serve someone on that basis ( provided that it is not something like a wedding cake or pictures for their wedding, nor quite frankly do I consider it any of my business whether someone is sleeping with the same sex ( provided they do not like do it in public or something but that applies to everyone there are just some things that should be private. I mean you do not asks other couples about the bedroom ( or should not unless you are say a medical professional and the issue at hand has something to do with that. I am stuck I do not want to say it is OK, but at the same time I do not want to treat them like they have three eyes or refuse to help/serve/ hire them ( if I was in such a position). Where is that line because my young brain cannot seem to find it?

Quick testimony: I'm 25, almost going on 26 and I have once identified as a bisexual Christian. I was confused on how am I going to approach the world, how am I to tell my parents, am I going to church, LGBT church now?, how I now feel about gay marriage, how this, how that. I got so wrapped up in how I identify myself, how to behave, approach things, etc. No matter how nice it felt that wow now I get to live how I want to, I wasn't honest with myself. I try to get inspired by youtubers of LGBT, but then I saw the sadness in their eyes, as pretty as they look. I kept wondering, why? They found themselves, why do they look so tormented? God convicted me through a youtube video, as the person on there brought me back to a verse "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." (Matthew 16:24). I questioned whether or not I have truly denied myself.Why do I have to deny myself? I realized I have to because the very nature of me is sinful, whether its the norm of society or not.In short, God delivered me and now I find identity in Him.

I'm saying all that to say this. This world have a fantastic way of boxing our sinful nature into nice neat labels. "You feel this way? You desire this? There's a word for that, and if anyone disagrees with you, shame on them!" Jesus ask to deny ourselves, that goes for any label imaginable on the planet, because at the end of the day, we all are under the same sinful nature, give the right environment and any one of us can become anything under the sun.These labels, our desires, our wants, our dreams in this world, means absolutely nothing to what God wants for us, eternal life. And to be children of God. These labels of our attraction and desires are distractions. They distract us on God's intention of sex, of marriage, of things that God created not to make us feel good, or because it feels natural, but because it's meant to give God glory. That's it. Once you accept how God view things through His Word, and understand his desire for people to not be lost, the fruits of that will come in your speech and actions.

If someone, like I was, was simply lost, how would you point them to the right direction? Would you be angry that they are lost, don't mind if they get lost, or tell them how to get to the place they need to be?Are your expectations that you would be the one to show them, or that they will get there whether it's you or not, as long as they are walking in the right direction? Would you tell them other directions if you know there's only one way to get there? How well do you know that direction? Would you point to someone else who better knows the direction if you weren't so clear? Would you take it to heart if they weren't so receptive? Usually, we don't run up to people and go "hey are you lost?" unless they look lost. If they tell us they are lost, we ought to help them.We guide them based on the direction, despite who or what condition they are, but we also correct them out of the desire to see them go to the right place. That's it.

Love is not based on the person, but love is simply the hope to see others go to the right place despite the person.Those who don't know this, who do not know what love actually is, do not know God.
 
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I am wondering about homosexuality so I KNOW it is wrong, but how do I know that while still treating such people with respect? How do I NOT accept it while at the same time not treating them as if they have three eyes?
As Christians, we do not judge people who do not profess to have Christ. Why? Simple, a person who is not a Christian, who we would call a "sinner" is simply living according to their nature. Sinners live a sinful life. There's nothing unnatural about that. Now, if a person professes to be a Christian, then I, as their brother in Christ have every right (and obligation) to judge their actions (not their heart), and to hold them to the standard of morality given to us in Scripture.

I wonder, how do you deal with your heterosexual friends that are sexually active? That's just as much a sin as homosexuality. How do you deal with your friends who drink in excess, or take the Lord's name in vain, or commit any other of a hundred sins?

The answer is that we treat everyone who does not have Christ the same - we love them, we treat them selflessly, and when we have the opportunity, we talk to them about Christ.

I have a homosexual friend who is not a Christian. I am not interested in convincing him that homosexuality is wrong. That's not his problem. His problem is that he needs Christ. I have a friend who is a borderline alcoholic. I'm not interested in convincing him it's a sin to get drunk (I do worry about his safety though), that wouldn't solve his problem. Fixing behavior and sin management have no eternal value.

The answer is for you to love your non-Christian friends and show them Christ through your speech and how you live.
 
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Gays are less than 10% of the population. That means that 90% is heterosexual (with a few bi- thrown in for bad measure).

So how many of those heterosexuals are having premarital sex? I do not know the statistic but it is way over 50% That is 5 times the number of people committing sexual sin compared to the gay population.

So why do we not hear so much about that anymore?
 
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You can say it is not ok and still treat them with love.... Love the sinner hate the sin..

Do i love others.... Yes
Are they guilty of sins .... Yes
Is my love for sinning human beings a show of support for their sinning.... No

So with homosexuals.. like any other human beings that sin we can love them and at the same time let it be known that their actions are sin and warn them of the judgement of God.. And give them the Good News ( The Gospel ) that Jesus came and died to pay the penalty of their sins and encourage them to believe Jesus and trust in his atonement for the forgiveness of their sins....

That is all well and good, but the majority of Homosexuals do not look at or believe what they do naturally to them is in fact sin.

First you have to convince them it is a sin then your advice might work.
 
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Every sin you can think of is willful.
A person chooses to be an adulterer, a thief, a murderer.

But a Homosexual is born thus, what the Homosexual does physically is not the sin, it's what he is

Every sin you can think of is something which the sinner can stop, and thereby becomes a non thief, a non murderer, a non adulterer.

But a Homosexual when he stops, all he can do is become celibate, to stop doing the acts of the Homosexual, but even in this he remains a Homosexual.

For a person to stop being a Homosexual, it isn't in the overt actions of Homosexuality, it is his heart which needs to be changed.

Until his heart is changed he remains a sinner.
 
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Every sin you can think of is willful.
Really? Even if one cannot believe? How is that willful?

"Whatsoever is not from faith is sin." Rom 14.28b

And that was talking about eating bread.
 
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That is all well and good, but the majority of Homosexuals do not look at or believe what they do naturally to them is in fact sin.

First you have to convince them it is a sin then your advice might work.

The Word of God should do the convincing.. If any sinner resists the Word of God then they defeat themselves in Eternity.. They will not be forgiven..
 
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I have the same question. I had a friend that was gay. I treated her with respect as a person but I did not support that she was gay. We are not friends anymore because I did not support that she was gay. She said that she didn't want to be friends with someone that couldn't accept her for who she is. What do you do in that situation?
 
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I have the same question. I had a friend that was gay. I treated her with respect as a person but I did not support that she was gay. We are not friends anymore because I did not support that she was gay. She said that she didn't want to be friends with someone that couldn't accept her for who she is. What do you do in that situation?
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She was also not willing to accept you for how you are, she expected you, to disavow your beliefs as a Christian and accept her for what she was.

The respect you showed was not enough, the spirit in her wanted you to compromise your beliefs and accept immorality as moral.

Isa. 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Amo. 3:3
Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
 
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