Hollywood Hates The Celts

[Davy]

Beware of TV series like The Celts, etc.

Hollywood Communists continually try to rewrite history.

In TV series like The Celts, they portray the ancient Celts in Britain in the 1st century A.D. like a bunch of barbarians in nature with human sacrifices, but also with a somewhat advanced technological culture.

In reality, Britain had the very FIRST Christian Church building on European soil. And they are able to boast of being a Christian nation about two centuries prior to Rome. The legend of the Holy Grail comes from ancient Britain because of Joseph of Arimathea being a tin trader, and known in ancient history in Britain as 'Joseph the tin man'. Joseph of course was Jesus' uncle.

The Druids were very wise, running over forty universities, and European aristocrats would send their children to their schools, revealing a very high level of culture then in Britain.

Said Taliesin (6th century Bard):
“Christ, the word from the beginning, was from the beginning our teacher, and we never lost his teaching. Christianity was in Asia a new thing; but never was [there] a time when the Druids of Britain held not its doctrine”

There is no history of idol worship, nor human sacrifice, by the Druids.

https://britishchristianhistory.wordpress.com/tag/culdee-church/

 

[Catholic Values Voter]

Hollywood hates Christ. These godless movie producers will eventually face the wrath of God.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

Most of this is nonsense.

The Celts did quite a lot of human sacrifice. There is archaelogical and textual evidence thereof. All the ancient writers tell of Celtic headhunting, which are reflected in Irish and Welsh stories too. We have evidence such as ritualised decapitation in excavated Gaulish sanctuaries and in Britain - such as Lindow Man or the skulls found in excavations in London. Celtic human sacrifice is well-established historically.

Joseph of Arimathea visiting Britain is a mediaeval legend, as is early establishment of Churches there. We see archaelogical evidence of small churches with baptismal fonts from about the 3rd century though. So an early establishment in the first or second century is not impossible, but remains conjectural. Post Roman Britain certainly was not wholely Christian though, as we see Celtic Temple structures or wooden replicas of Roman Temples built in previous Roman civitates. There are also inscriptions to local deities like Nodens or Sulis after Rome left in 410. Christianity won in the end, but it is highly doubtful that 4th century Britain was fully or even mostly Christianised.

As to the Druids, they wrote nothing down. We only know of them from Greco-Roman or very late sources. So how educated or not, they were, is debatable. The Greeks and Romans certainly didn't think much of them, though.

Oh, and there is no connection between Caractacus and Linus, unless you would have no connection to Britain. For Caractacus was taken to Rome after Claudius' conquest, and lived out his days a client of the Emperor in Italy. I find this whole tale dubious though, and would love to see its source? Anyway, Caractacus was said to have marvelled that the people that lived in such splendour in Rome, would desire their 'rude Brittanic huts'

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

I read up on where this weird Caractucus/Pudens/Claudia/Linus axis comes from. Apparently it was a theory popularised by the forger Iolo Morganwy and a number of other 18th century antiquarians. It is based off of Martial knowing a British woman Claudia, who married a Pudens, which simply based on having the same names, is connected to 2 Timothy. It is therefore highly dubious and the connection to Linus or Caractacus, is because Linus was said to be the 'brother of Claudia' in church documents, so thus British and since Caractacus was there, he must be their father and a Christian. Neither Claudia, Pudens nor Linus are uncommon names, so it is quite a stretch, and Caractacus is just thrown in so that it can somehow confirm his Christianity and conversion by Joseph of Arimathea. It is all very, very silly indeed.

I enjoyed this weird little foray into the absurd, I must say.

 

[Arcangl86]

Also it begs the question of how could Britain be a Christian nation 200 years before Rome considering Britain was Rome until after the proclamation of the Edict of Thesselonica.

 

[jhwatts]

Those Celts, they sure loved their magic wands. The most prized was the ones made from the holly tree or better known as one made from the hollywood.

 

[Maria Sweet]

Beware of TV series like The Celts, etc.

Hollywood Communists continually try to rewrite history.

In TV series like The Celts, they portray the ancient Celts in Britain in the 1st century A.D. like a bunch of barbarians in nature with human sacrifices, but also with a somewhat advanced technological culture.

In reality, Britain had the very FIRST Christian Church building on European soil. And they are able to boast of being a Christian nation about two centuries prior to Rome. The legend of the Holy Grail comes from ancient Britain because of Joseph of Arimathea being a tin trader, and known in ancient history in Britain as 'Joseph the tin man'. Joseph of course was Jesus' uncle.

The Druids were very wise, running over forty universities, and European aristocrats would send their children to their schools, revealing a very high level of culture then in Britain.

Said Taliesin (6th century Bard):
“Christ, the word from the beginning, was from the beginning our teacher, and we never lost his teaching. Christianity was in Asia a new thing; but never was [there] a time when the Druids of Britain held not its doctrine”

There is no history of idol worship, nor human sacrifice, by the Druids.

https://britishchristianhistory.wordpress.com/tag/culdee-church/

You must not have seen Mel Gibson's Braveheart.

 

[lismore]

Compared to the Roman Empire and it's savagery 'barbarians' were highly cultured.

Hollywood often portrays the bloody Roman Empire in an overly sanitised light, perhaps because of perceived cultural inheritance from Rome, the USA has a senate based on that of ancient Rome for example. But the Empire was brutal, exploitative, horrific.

Perhaps the 'Celts' are seen in a bad light because one group of Celts, the Caledonians, they could not be conquered by the Roman Empire, could not be bought by the Roman Empire, wanted no part of the Empire.

Who would not want a part in civilisation? Those who consider civilisation to be uncivilised.

God Bless

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

Compared to the Roman Empire and it's savagery 'barbarians' were highly cultured.

Hollywood often portrays the bloody Roman Empire in an overly sanitised light, perhaps because of perceived cultural inheritance from Rome, the USA has a senate based on that of ancient Rome for example. But the Empire was brutal, exploitative, horrific.

Perhaps the 'Celts' are seen in a bad light because one group of Celts, the Caledonians, they could not be conquered by the Roman Empire, could not be bought by the Roman Empire, wanted no part of the Empire.

Who would not want a part in civilisation? Those who consider civilisation to be uncivilised.

God Bless

Well, the common finds of Roman wares in the lowlands, and Caledonian attempts to mimic them, certainly makes it look like they were at least partially trying to acculture to Rome.

Afterall, the Votadini were close Roman allies in Caledonia. They are the 'Goddodin' of Welsh stories, who were moved from the lowlands to Northern Wales - probably as Foederati by Magnus Maximus (Maxim Wledig of Welsh sources).

Rome anyway set the border at Hadrian's wall, moved it up to the Antonine Wall, then moved it back down again. This was from the Roman perspective that the effort to incorporate Caledonia wasn't worth what they got out of it. It certainly had nothing to do with Roman inability to do so.

So, what you are saying certainly isn't supported historically. On what sources do you judge them 'highly civilised' though? Tacitus' Agricola is our best source on Caledonia, and it certainly doesn't appear so there. It is even not established that much of Caledonia was Celtic, as some argue Pictish was non-Indo-European or had such a substrate along with a later P-celtic group. The modern Gaelic is a mediaeval immigrant from Ireland, the original home of the 'Scotti and Attacotti' of Roman times.