Hitler v Lennin, the rematch.

[Goonie]

Who’d name their child Hitler? Or in one case Osama Vinladen?
Hitler v Lennin: Peru mayoral election is a historical showdown

 

[mindlight]

Who’d name their child Hitler? Or in one case Osama Vinladen?
Hitler v Lennin: Peru mayoral election is a historical showdown

Hitler seems to stand for fair and transparent government but Lennin tried to get him off the ballot. So since Hitler is the greater proponent of democracy and freedom:

Vote Hitler!!!!

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

To nitpick... Hitler never directly opposed Lenin, so rematch? Lenin died in 1924 and Hitler only came to power in 1933.

 

[Goonie]

To nitpick... Hitler never directly opposed Lenin, so rematch? Lenin died in 1924 and Hitler only came to power in 1933.

I know! I’m waiting for Stalin, and Mao to run against them(someone in South America must have named their children this). As it is Lennin is a stand in for the Soviet Union.

 

[mindlight]

To nitpick... Hitler never directly opposed Lenin, so rematch? Lenin died in 1924 and Hitler only came to power in 1933.

Also neither spoke Spanish which might be confusing for a Spanish speaking electorate. Also they seem out of synch with the rest of the worlds reading of these names. I manage some global databases which have a load of Spanish names on. IT wise they are nightmare cause they love these double barrelled names like Jesus Moses González-Rodríguez which make for very long email addresses. Notice the special characters also which always mess something up. But I am sure they have had elections between Jesus and Moses also down there.

 

[mindlight]

I know! I’m waiting for Stalin, and Mao to run against them(someone in South America must have named their children this). As it is Lennin is a stand in for the Soviet Union.

I wonder if any North American or European would ever name their children Pinochet or Che Guevara.

 

[Goonie]

I wonder if any North American or European would ever name their children Pinochet or Che Guevara.

I can definitely imagine someone being named che Guevara.

 

[Chesterton]

I had a friend from Peru. Back in the '90's I asked him why Peru elected a Japanese president. He just shook his head and said "Peru is crazy".

 

[Ana the Ist]

Who’d name their child Hitler? Or in one case Osama Vinladen?
Hitler v Lennin: Peru mayoral election is a historical showdown

Latin America actually gets weirder than that regarding names...

I've heard the name that sounds like "ooose-navvi"....spelled "Usnavy". They got it from the side of a boat.

 

[Ironhold]

South America remained as neutral as possible during WWII, with most nations only picking a side when it became clear who was going to win. As a result, a *lot* of officials in the three main Axis countries fled to various parts of South America in the aftermath of the war and began to integrate. There were already small enclaves of people from these countries, and so the officials and their families were able to blend on in.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

I had a friend from Peru. Back in the '90's I asked him why Peru elected a Japanese president. He just shook his head and said "Peru is crazy".

A Japanese president of Peru isn't actually that odd. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it was thought the answer to overpopulation was to shift it to more sparsely populated areas. This is the underlying idea of the '10 pound poms' sent to Australia; Milner's settlement programme in South Africa, Rhodesia and Kenya; Welsh in Patagonia; the Italian Fourth Shore or French Algeria; or the Nazi's Lebensraum.

Japan did the same. They shipped excess population to Saipan, Hawaii, Peru and Brazil. There are large areas around Belem in Brazil and in Peru, where literally everyone is of Japanese descent - usually mixed by today though.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

South Africa has an agreement to import Cuban doctors to work in highly rural areas. As such, I worked with a guy who was named Ramse - apparently his father had named his two sons for the Egyptian pharoahs Ahmose and Ramesses.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

I can definitely imagine someone being named che Guevara.

Interestingly enough, Che is actually a mocking nickname based on Guevara's thick Argentinian accent. His real name was Ernesto. If I was to name my child after someone, I'd use their real name - no one would bat an eyelid at an Ernest though.

 

[jayem]

Not that it matters, but Lenin was not his real family name. He was born Valdimir Ilyich Ulyanov. Early in his political career, he was sent to Siberia for his anti-government activity. He spent his exile near the Lena River. So he adopted the name of Lenin--which translates to man of the Lena. Just as well, since Ulyanov would be a very awkward first name.

Stalin was not a real family name either. He changed it from Dzhugashvili. Stalin means man of steel. I wonder if the Superman writers knew their character's nickname was the Soviet dictator.

 

[Chesterton]

A Japanese president of Peru isn't actually that odd. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, it was thought the answer to overpopulation was to shift it to more sparsely populated areas. This is the underlying idea of the '10 pound poms' sent to Australia; Milner's settlement programme in South Africa, Rhodesia and Kenya; Welsh in Patagonia; the Italian Fourth Shore or French Algeria; or the Nazi's Lebensraum.

Japan did the same. They shipped excess population to Saipan, Hawaii, Peru and Brazil. There are large areas around Belem in Brazil and in Peru, where literally everyone is of Japanese descent - usually mixed by today though.

Yeah, true. I looked into that once. And I guess the Japanese analogy to Lebensraum was the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, which worked out equally disastrously.

The Japanese
by Ogden Nash, 1938

How courteous is the Japanese;
He always says, "Excuse it, please."
He climbs into his neighbor's garden.
And smiles, and says, "I beg your pardon;"
He bows and grins a friendly grin,
And calls his hungry family in;
He grins, and bows a friendly bow;
"So sorry, this my garden now."