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Hillary Clinton wobbles as her backers turn to Barack Obama

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Voegelin, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. Voegelin

    Voegelin Reactionary

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    Sarah Baxter, Washington
    December 9, 2007


    . . . A few days ago, Helen Quarles peeled off the Hillary for President bumper stickers from her car and replaced them with Obama ’08.

    “I didn’t think anybody could turn me away from Hillary,” said Quarles . . .

    “In the South, a lot of people don’t like Hillary, so I felt it was up to me to turn things around for her. I really wanted her to win, but there’s something about Obama,” she said. “To me, he is the one who is going to make a difference"

    "I think Oprah can change anybody’s mind. I really do. She can draw people in and get them to listen to him,” Quarles said.

    The decisive factor for her was hearing Michelle Obama talk on television recently about her husband’s family background and values: “I didn’t really know who Obama was. She touched my heart.” . . .

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3022206.ece

    " . . .he is the one who is going to make a difference . ."
     
  2. Verv

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    Oprah is turning out to be one of the best campaigners we've seen in American politics; she is going to be a political machine for the left similar to how many evangelical ministers have been able to turn people on to the right.

    I think Obamas chances of winning increase each day as he gets Oprah to rally around him.

    Furthermore, he doesn't have the historic problems of Clinton which could become difficult for her as the election gets closer and people try to envision her more and more as the President.
     
  3. Glaz

    Glaz Obama '08

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    Its fun watching the Dems eat their own.
     
  4. Morcova

    Morcova Well-Known Member

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    Utterly and completely without a doubt.... pathetic.

    Fools vote with their heart. What does your mind tell you?

    Such people were born to be slaves.
     
  5. ElijahFalling

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    Who cares whether it's hillary or osama, if either of them are elected God will strike this nation down. The problem is, the republican candidates this time around are a bunch of freaking liberals too. The only real conservative is Ron Paul and the establishment is not going to let him win.
     
  6. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    Obama is a good candidate and he has character-that alone trumps hillary. Think i like him mostly for what he said about his opposition to invading iraq. He was dead on in his assessment.
     
  7. ElijahFalling

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    Osama has character? He is a freaking muslim who supports communist health care and gay marriage!
     
  8. JustOneWay

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    The truth is Obama claims to be Christian. I am quite certain you have no data to support your claim that Obama is Muslim.
     
  9. RealDealNeverstop

    RealDealNeverstop Is Prayer Your First or Last Action?

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    Obama is definitely not a muslim and purposefully misspelling his name helps nothing. The fact is he was dead on about iraq and to say he cant have character because of the false claim he is a muslim is pretty troubling.
     
  10. ClaireZ

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    Obama is not a muslim. That lie was throughly debunked months ago.

    None the less, I still don't believe he will win the nomination.
     
  11. Steezie

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    And ya know even if all that were true, I'd still want to vote for him

    Better than Hillary
     
  12. JGL53

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    Regarding the first link, this basically references the white Democrats in the distant past, mainly based in the South, who were as racist as it is possible to be.

    Nowadays, guess what - the descendents of those Southern white Democrats overwhelmingly vote Republican and have done so starting with Goldwater in 1964, excepting those who voted for Wallace, right up to the present day. The fact that something like 90 per cent of black voters go for Democrats is an indication they they know, exactly, where the racists are.

    I didn't have the patience to wait for the second link to open, but if it is anything like the first, then it is useless propaganda too.
     
  13. ElijahFalling

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    Obama was raised muslim and went to a muslim school as a kid, he only pretends to be christian now because it helps his image
     
  14. uberd00b

    uberd00b The Emperor has no clothes.

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    Why are you pretending to be Christian (so unsuccessfully, I might add)? :p
     
  15. ElijahFalling

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    I am not pretending to be christian, I am a christian, what makes you think I am not?
     
  16. uberd00b

    uberd00b The Emperor has no clothes.

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    I guess it's the smearing of your fellow man and spreading of lies, oh and saying someone else is not a Christian.
     
  17. ElijahFalling

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    I am speaking the truth, which is not prohibited anywhere in the bible but rather is mandated. No true christian supports communism and gay marriage. Furthermore, as Christians, God establishes a plan for our life and calls each of us to serve him in different ways, and God would never call somebody to his position, a democrat communist polititian. Obama holds a seat that serves Satan, therefore he is not a Christian.
     
  18. Steezie

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    Actually, you aren't, you are either lying or passing on false information, either way you are still guilty.

    No he didnt, his biological father was raised a Muslim but was an Atheist.

    And even if this is true, why does it matter?

    Convienent that you can simply disenfranchise any Christian that you disagree with.
     
  19. ElijahFalling

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    What false information have I passed?

    Because that puts him in league with the enemy of the United States and therefore he is not fit to lead the United States because there would be a conflict of interest.

    Nope, I'm simply stating what the Bible says, homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, therefore no true Christian supports homosexual marriage. It is simple logic.