Hey they are right! climate change is entirely natural!

[Goonie]

(So long as you accept the actions of humanity are part of nature)

seriously humanity affects the climate, this is an established fact. If you doubt it compare the climate of cities and the countryside.

and folks its getting warmer. And the Sun is not responsible.

 

[Ken Rank]

So what? Longer growing seasons... and because of that, a better ability to feed an increasingly growing population. Less than 1 degree... it isn't much and I like it.

 

[Nithavela]

So what? Longer growing seasons... and because of that, a better ability to feed an increasingly growing population. Less than 1 degree... it isn't much and I like it.

How do you like droughts?

 

[Lazarus Short]

I still insist that the long-term trend is to a colder climate, but I measure that in centuries and millennia.

 

[Goonie]

So what? Longer growing seasons... and because of that, a better ability to feed an increasingly growing population. Less than 1 degree... it isn't much and I like it.

Sorry did I say warming and climate would be stable? And it’s getting warmer 4c by the end of century(possibly), many areas will be uninhabitable.

 

[Goonie]

I still insist that the long-term trend is to a colder climate, but I measure that in centuries and millennia.

Well once the climate kills of the pesky humans you might be right.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I still insist that the long-term trend is to a colder climate, but I measure that in centuries and millennia.

Colder weather in some places, but climate? Anyway ocean temps are the real indicator, and will drive both weather and climate.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Well...here is the data. Note that the Roman Warming is colder than the Minoan Warming, that the Medieval Warming is colder than the Roman Warming, and our present "warming," which everyone is so worried about, is barely above the averaged data line. Note also the overall long-term decline in temperature.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Well once the climate kills of the pesky humans you might be right.

Jesus will return before that, and then all bets are off.

 

[Kaon]

(So long as you accept the actions of humanity are part of nature)

seriously humanity affects the climate, this is an established fact. If you doubt it compare the climate of cities and the countryside.

and folks its getting warmer. And the Sun is not responsible.

People are seeing the extreme changes because they are living in coastal cities of millions of people stacked on each other - that is a human fault. However, if you want to get serious it is not the layperson contributing to global warming - the first to blame would be the corporations that fund and run the largest pollution and transportation vessels.

But, they are too big to handle right? You would rather believe the layperson that can't even afford to pay off credit cards is the one causing the global change? How absolutely, asininely naive to tell someone - completely ignoring the reality.


Make those entities dismantle the ships that produce more pollution than all the cars in Europe, or stop being part of the controlled opposition by telling the layperson they are the cause of global warming - it is a gross deception. Let's grow a pair as the human race, think critically, and stop telegraphing ridiculous charges at each other while at the same time ignoring the truth.

 

[grasping the after wind]

(So long as you accept the actions of humanity are part of nature)

seriously humanity affects the climate, this is an established fact. If you doubt it compare the climate of cities and the countryside.

and folks its getting warmer. And the Sun is not responsible.

Cities do not have their own climates.

 

[Goonie]

Jesus will return before that, and then all bets are off.

Or you could be wrong.

 

[Goonie]

Cities do not have their own climates.

Microclimate - Wikipedia

 

[Lazarus Short]

Or you could be wrong.

This ex-atheist thinks not.

 

[Goonie]

This ex-atheist thinks not.

So you think your right this time?

 

[grasping the after wind]

Microclimate - Wikipedia

As I said cities do not have their own climates. A microclimate is not a climate .

 

[Lazarus Short]

So you think your right this time?

My understanding is fallible, but I do know that I was wrong then.

 

[Goonie]

My understanding is fallible, but I do know that I was wrong then.

Or now.....

seriously humanity effects the climate, like any other occupants of this globe.

 

[Lazarus Short]

As I said cities do not have their own climates. A microclimate is not a climate .

It is too easy to prove that a city of a certain size has a microclimate: trees and shrubs that would never survive in the surrounding rural areas can do do so in a city. They grow here in the Kansas City area, but not outside the city. Magnolia trees in northern cities are a good example, for they grow in rural areas only in the deep south. Perhaps you do not go much from city to country and country to city...?

 

[Lazarus Short]

Or now.....

seriously humanity effects the climate, like any other occupants of this globe.

"Or now..."? In my view, God has yet to tap you on the shoulder and announce Himself. That is sort of how it worked with me.

Humans affecting climate? Minimally...yes. Mostly, they make deserts grow.