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Here’s a witness Schiff doesn’t dare call in impeachment hearings

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by NightHawkeye, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. NightHawkeye

    NightHawkeye Work-in-progress Supporter

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    Here’s a witness Schiff doesn’t dare call in impeachment hearings

    Badly undermining Democrats’ impeachment narrative, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko told the press in Kiev on Thursday, “I have never seen a direct relationship between investigations and security assistance.”
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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has also made it plain he never felt undue pressure to investigate the Bidens. And he never did, yet the aid went through anyway.
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    The only “evidence” so far of an actual linkage is in chatter among US diplomats, speculating about second- and third-hand gossip
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  2. Kentonio

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    Ukraine are dependent for their very survival as an independent nation on US support. They absolutely cannot afford to get involved in partisan US politics, for fear that if they ostracize one party, when that party has power they could withdraw the very support that prevents Russia from retaking the Ukraine.

    Ukraine will say they saw nothing, know nothing and have seen nothing wrong. Expecting them to do otherwise is wildly naive.
     
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  3. hislegacy

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    could they be afraid to going back to Obama policies and receive blankets instead of weapons?
     
  4. tulc

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    Well...the President could just let all the people the investigation wants to call as witnesses testify under oath and answer any questions they're asked. That would be a simple way to get to the truth as well. :wave:
    tulc(problem solved) :)
     
  5. ChristianForCats

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    Tulc, the fact that Trump has been preventing that from happening is proof he is guilty and trying to hide something by obstructing justice, which is an impeachable act. Trying to hide guilt creates more guilt.

    As for Ukraine, they got their security aid too late. Trump broke a law by sending it when he did.
     
  6. hislegacy

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    man’s Adam Schiff could do the same with the witnesses requested from the Republicans. That is probably not a truth he wants.

    just sayin’
     
  7. ChristianForCats

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    Think about why Adam Schiff did not want to hear a specific witness testify under oath.

    Now think about how many first-hand witnesses Donald Trump blocked from testifying.
     
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  8. tulc

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    how about if President Trump testified under oath? That also might help. :wave:
    tulc(would make popcorn and watch that part) :clap:
     
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  9. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    No, they fear looking weak to their country. So they try to keep their mouth shut.
     
  10. The_Barmecide

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    If only mob bosses were allowed to call in their victims while they actively intimidate them during the testimony. I bet mob convictions would go WAAAAY down. Especially if you include the new GOP point that quid pro quo can't happen unless those exact words are uttered. And ATTEMPTED crimes are not illegal anymore.

    The GOP is truly the party of "Law 'n' Order"....
     
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  11. NightHawkeye

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    Out of curiosity, have you looked into the potential criminal activity of John Brennan, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Hillary Clinton, Andrew McCabe, James Clapper and others currently under investigation?

    Just curious ...
     
  12. The_Barmecide

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    You guys got to obsess over Hillary for years and yet you couldn't get her in prison.

    Now your guy has to stand up to 1/1000th that amount of investigation and you'd think the world was ending.

    LOL.

    I mean, seriously, lololololololol.

    Your guy is a weakling.
     
  13. NightHawkeye

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    LOL, that's your best response?

    The investigation of the investigators hasn't concluded yet. What do you think the results will be?
     
  14. The_Barmecide

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    Isn't it enough? I mean you start randomly mentioning investigations in OTHER people while your guy is busy WITNESS TAMPERING IN REAL TIME! LOL.

    So is your response when a mob boss is hauled into court if we have ensured that the police all were baptized and raised in good families?

    C'mon, man. Your guy is under investigation for so many naked crimes it's pathetic how little response your side has to defend it. So you start wanting to know things like "who the whistleblower is". or have we investigated everyone else on the planet FIRST?

    It's risible. (That's "laughable" for the Trump base)
     
  15. tulc

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    Out of curiosity why would what some other people did or didn't do matter in this discussion? :scratch:
    tulc(also wonders why almost no thread about President Trump seems to always have a "BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY??" or some other Democrat in it?) :sorry:
     
  16. The_Barmecide

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    Well, if Trump is guilty of something it must mean that ALL PEOPLE are guilty of much worse. That's the only way the belief system holds up.

    Because Hillary is the most dangerous supervillain known to humankind. There is no police force that can catch her and her evil Hillary-Rays are enough to keep even the most rock-ribbed Republican from being able to actually BRING CHARGES AGAINST HER THAT WILL STICK.

    Hillary might be the single biggest threat to all of America that we've ever seen. She's the Joker, the Penguin, the Riddler AND Alfred the butler all rolled into one. A perfect neutron star of corruption. In fact it is possible that ALL CORRUPTION ON EARTH springs from her.
     
  17. hislegacy

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    Just finished the depo of OMB staffer, Mark Sandy, in Schiff’s Capitol basement bunker. He came in to testify about why there was a hold on aid to Ukraine. His answer was very bad for Schiff’s fairy tale. This transcript needs to be released BEFORE the next public hearing on Tue!

    Here is another
     
  18. Kentonio

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    You might want to read the early reports of what he said. Spoiler: its not good for the President.

    Mark Sandy: White House budget official testifies in closed-door deposition in Trump impeachment inquiry - CNNPolitics
     
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  19. A_Thinker

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    Sounds like they can't be trusted to be objective ...
     
  20. KCfromNC

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    Probably about as impactful as the investigations looking to find the names of the millions of illegal votes that went to Clinton during the 2016 election.

    Donald has a pattern of calling for investigations into rivals which are later shown to be baseless. No reason to think the ones you mention are any different. There's even one that Congress is talking about - it's been all over the news recently.
     
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