Help!

[truefiction1]

How can I be delivered from the insidious trap of... ... ... General Theology?!!! Please help!

 

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

post in a different category and hope the gremlins don't follow.

 

[truefiction1]

post in a different category and hope the gremlins don't follow.

I don't mind having those discussions. It's just that I'm finding it difficult to withdraw from and they are way to time consuming. And like you said over there in GT, not all pastors are bad.

 

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

I don't mind having those discussions. It's just that I'm finding it difficult to withdraw from and they are way to time consuming. And like you said over there in GT, not all pastors are bad.

I was under the impression they are in the bible too. And it's not like every pastor is Joel Osteen.

 

[truefiction1]

I was under the impression they are in the bible too. And it's not like every pastor is Joel Osteen.

Agreed.

 

[Basil the Great]

You would not dare leave unless there is another Orthodox poster there to represent the faith, truefiction1.

 

[truefiction1]

You would not dare leave unless there is another Orthodox poster there to represent the faith, truefiction1.

I'm afraid I must leave there, Basil, even if I must leave it unmanned. For I am unequal to the task, and in over my head by a bit. I feel I'm going to drown.

 

[sparow]

How can I be delivered from the insidious trap of... ... ... General Theology?!!! Please help!

Theology is the science of God; instead of studying God from a distance get involved with Him.

 

[truefiction1]

Theology is the science of God; instead of studying God from a distance get involved with Him.

Are you suggesting that "A theologian is one who prays"? -- Evagrius of Pontus

How very Orthodox Christian of you to suggest this.

 

[Basil the Great]

I'm afraid I must leave there, Basil, even if I must leave it unmanned. For I am unequal to the task, and in over my head by a bit. I feel I'm going to drown.

I was just kidding. Whatever you feel is best for you, that is just fine. We all must take care of ourselves.

 

[sparow]

Are you suggesting that "A theologian is one who prays"? -- Evagrius of Pontus

How very Orthodox Christian of you to suggest this.

There is a commandment to pray often; I was suggesting involving God in every aspect of ones life. The Theologian places God in subjection.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I used to spend HOURS AND HOURS in Catholic Answers Forums and other Catholic spots desperately trying to get through to them. Then God gave me the most awesome grace----not giving a RAT'S BEHIND! I'm serious! I could care less about debating with other denominations now. Just....don't....care. It's hard enough at times amongst our own Orthodox brethren!

The other day at coffee hour I was talking at my table about TAW. I said that "evolution" is a hot topic in TAW, with tensions running high at times, angst, angry folks. One guy at my table said, "Really? I've been Orthodox for 15 years. I've never ever, I mean EVER met an Orthodox Christian that believed in evolution. Are you making this up?" I told him he hasn't entered the wild Wild West of the Internet! ....Another lady at my table said, "I've never heard of such a thing? Are there really people that feel that way out there?" I told her yes. They were all looking at each other like I was pulling their legs. Amazing the variety in the world.....

I don't have the energy to debate here half the time, wasting time in GT or with Catholics or Protestants, meh, I'd rather clean a toilet or change my oil that do that stuff these days.

How can I be delivered from the insidious trap of... ... ... General Theology?!!! Please help!

 

[truefiction1]

I used to spend HOURS AND HOURS in Catholic Answers Forums and other Catholic spots desperately trying to get through to them. Then God gave me the most awesome grace----not giving a RAT'S BEHIND! I'm serious! I could care less about debating with other denominations now. Just....don't....care. It's hard enough at times amongst our own Orthodox brethren!

The other day at coffee hour I was talking at my table about TAW. I said that "evolution" is a hot topic in TAW, with tensions running high at times, angst, angry folks. One guy at my table said, "Really? I've been Orthodox for 15 years. I've never ever, I mean EVER met an Orthodox Christian that believed in evolution. Are you making this up?" I told him he hasn't entered the wild Wild West of the Internet! ....Another lady at my table said, "I've never heard of such a thing? Are there really people that feel that way out there?" I told her yes. They were all looking at each other like I was pulling their legs. Amazing the variety in the world.....

I don't have the energy to debate here half the time, wasting time in GT or with Catholics or Protestants, meh, I'd rather clean a toilet or change my oil that do that stuff these days.

I took time out to clean the bathroom today (shower and toilet scrubbing and the like). Perhaps some of this grace you speak of is beginning to come my way.

 

[truefiction1]

There is a commandment to pray often; I was suggesting involving God in every aspect of ones life. The Theologian places God in subjection.

The Orthodox theologian learns about God through the direct revelation of God in the vision of the uncreated Light. This vision is only given by the will of God and usually only to those who truly pray, and pray truly.

 

[~Anastasia~]

I barely go into GT anymore either.

Sometimes I'm there, or in controversial. Normally I will just post what I have to share and leave it at that. Arguing isn't productive for me, or for them. I've seen people arguing for Orthodoxy actually push people away. I don't know as they would have looked into it otherwise either. But ... it's just not ... appropriate, much of the time, I think.

Though there's a thread about icons I needed to respond to that is weeks cold now. The person gave so many quotes (without referencing sources) and by the time I tracked them down and read the documents to get the context, too much time had passed (not to mention it would take a lot of effort to paste in and prove what the quotes were really saying). I might do it though. I've still got research tabs open to those documents.

 

[truefiction1]

I barely go into GT anymore either.

Sometimes I'm there, or in controversial. Normally I will just post what I have to share and leave it at that. Arguing isn't productive for me, or for them. I've seen people arguing for Orthodoxy actually push people away. I don't know as they would have looked into it otherwise either. But ... it's just not ... appropriate, much of the time, I think.

Though there's a thread about icons I needed to respond to that is weeks cold now. The person gave so many quotes (without referencing sources) and by the time I tracked them down and read the documents to get the context, too much time had passed (not to mention it would take a lot of effort to paste in and prove what the quotes were really saying). I might do it though. I've still got research tabs open to those documents.

Something didn't feel quite right to me about discussing stuff in GT either. I believe I'm through with it. I'm even feeling somewhat ill now.

 

[ArmyMatt]

I avoid it like the plague. I left like taking off a band aide. one quick rip.

 

[truefiction1]

I avoid it like the plague. I left like taking off a band aide. one quick rip.

Yup.

 

[prodromos]

I'm afraid I must leave there, Basil, even if I must leave it unmanned. For I am unequal to the task, and in over my head by a bit. I feel I'm going to drown.

I've noticed there are a few posting over there who obviously have way too much time on their hands. Their approach seems to be one of drowning out opposition through shear volume of text in their posts. I find the best approach to such attacks is to simply ignore them, do not respond to even a paragraph or a sentence of what they've written. There is nothing more frustrating than carefully crafting a response only to have it ignored or dismissed, and if they get upset just behave exactly the same as if you really do have them on your ignore list.

 

[truefiction1]

I've noticed there are a few posting over there who obviously have way too much time on their hands. Their approach seems to be one of drowning out opposition through shear volume of text in their posts. I find the best approach to such attacks is to simply ignore them, do not respond to even a paragraph or a sentence of what they've written. There is nothing more frustrating than carefully crafting a response only to have it ignored or dismissed, and if they get upset just behave exactly the same as if you really do have them on your ignore list.

I think I'm gonna stay right outa there. There was something spiritually deadening and grace robbing about the place. The experience reminded me of when the Holy Spirit wouldn't let the Apostles preach to word in the region of Asia, as mentioned in Acts. Something was telling me that the mission I was on was not blessed.