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hi, I've been married I have been married eight years to a now pastor. We just recently had a baby. However, I don't have a desire to be with him. Most of his behaviors annoy me. He's chronically late (since having new baby he's managed to get our daughter to school LATE. Typically I get her ready while he sleeps like he's worked all night or day. He's a poor leader (no clear vision or direction), financially immature (mismanages his money and constantly is getting citations and is currently without a license). We are in an area where I cannot find work and he insists on staying for the Lords work but will not secure a second job for the much needed insurance benefits and financial security. He doesn't help clean around the house. He lets repairs linger. The yard looks a mess. He's just lazy. I just don't understand how you can be super man to your congregants and the community yet a dud at home.

I've tried to help him but now I just resent him for his selfish behavior.
 

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This would be difficult. Have you explained to him that he needs to take care of his family? Have you told him how you feel?
Unless the pastor has a church willing to pay him decent money...they have to be working a second job. It is his duty to provide for his family.

1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, especially members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Do you have family near you? How long has he been a pastor and was he working doing something else prior to becoming a pastor?
I would be livid.
 
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Soon in July I will be married for a total of 4 years. However if we want to count the years we dated then I've been with my guy 7 years total. Congratulations on the little bundle of joy that must be so exciting Mother's Day is around the corner. :)

I was once at the point of asking my husband for a divorce. Because I stayed home and did the cooking and cleaning plus made sure the bill money was turned in each and every month. I'm the money manager because... well my husband is just awful with money. Thankfully he has gotten better but still needs improvement but who doesn't? I know I could make some improvements such as my short temper LOL.

However each night I would have dinner hot and ready to eat... but he was coming home 2-3 hours late. Finally I asked him are you having an affair? Come to find out he was hanging out with his mother at her house up the road from our apartment. He would eat dinner with her... and then wasn't hungry when he came home.

I was one ticked little Georgia peach let me tell you! Here I am doing your stanky man laundry and cooking your favorite meals... just so you can come home late and not act one bit thankful. This went on for awhile. But the devil got into my head and gave me doubts about my husband being faithful to me.

I just refused to believe he was actually at his mothers house. So I did something terrible that I regret till this very day. I began to feel a tad lonely ... so I got on a dating site and started looking for just a friend to talk to. I promised myself I would only find a "friend". Well as you can imagine I ended up cheating on my husband. Now I never actually met up with this particular guy or anything like that. I only talked to him through the chat or my phone.

All of a sudden I started to wear makeup again and dress real girly again. I was feeling "WANTED" I guess you could say. My husband started to ask hey you haven't wore makeup in awhile. But he told me how beautiful I was. This made me feel really bad. The guilt started to really set in... because at the end of the day I wanted my husband not some other guy!

One night I fell asleep early... and my cell phone went off. I was texting this guy through a phone app called Text me or something like that. Where you can talk to someone without actually giving out your real number. Well it popped up on my phone so my husband began to read through the messages. He woke me up crying. It made me feel like the worst person ever.

He now wanted the divorce. The next day he didn't come home and I couldn't sleep. When he finally did come home he wouldn't even look at me. I missed his warm hugs and kisses, and the way his kind green eyes would light up. This time he had sadness in those kind eyes... and I couldn't blame him. Finally we started talking things out, and we talked for hours and hours. It took some time but he did heal and I learned some things as well. We are still together and still happy!

I know what I did was wrong, and I regret it every single day and always will. We were having a lot of problems at that time so it helped play a little role, but ultimately I made the poor choice and can only blame myself for that. In 2013 we had lost a baby would have been our very first... and I was very paranoid he would find a woman who didn't have fertility issues like myself. He also was very weird about his cell phone. He would always take it to the bathroom with him, and if I ever even touched his phone he would kind of act like "Hey what are you doin?!" Although it was 100% okay for him to play with my phone or go through it.

To ease one another we have passwords to all social media accounts. So I can see my husbands stuff as he can see my own. My husband never cheated on me... come to find out he just plays a lot of games on his phone while in the bathroom hiding from chores! All in all I'm happy I stayed with him because he is my bestfriend, and I do actually love him. We just had to communicate better than we were before. I'll pray that things get better for you all.

I understand divorce looks like a great way out... but sometimes you might be surprised how you would feel if the roles were reversed and he wanted the divorce instead. I would suggest marriage counseling... I know money is tight but maybe you could find a preacher from a different church to talk to for free.

Also express to your husband Ya'll have a newborn and he honestly needs to help around the house. He could still preach and hold a second job. I have a preacher who currently does this and he is 52 he works as a prison guard and then preaches as well.

My preacher has talked about when his wife and him were younger she struggled with having less time to spend with him. Because honestly his duties as a preacher came first and his family was second. With preachers they stay so busy because it's constantly go go go! Someone always needs there help and guidance. So his wife became even more involved with the church giving them time to at least see one another. They had 6 boy so it can be done... but won't be easy.

Trust me I'm not married to a pastor... but I know how it feels to be taken for granted in a sense. But I also think we might take our loved ones for granted also... without realizing it because hey we aren't perfect. Just hang in there and continue to pray about it. *hugs*
 
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The reason for so many broken marriages is because no one works at anything anymore. They just throw in the towel and say forget it. So many children are from broken homes. There is a reason we don't mention divorce here. To say her marriage is already over is a bit harsh. Obviously she loved him enough to marry him. Some work needs to be done first before the talk of divorce comes up. It's her decision really.
Her husband is lazy and needs to get off his butt and provide for his family. She has reason to resent him, but to divorce shouldn't happen until she has had it out with him and he does something about it or he will lose his family. I believe divorce does happen when there is financial abuse...for example money withheld from the mother to feed her kids while he goes out and gambles the money away at the casino or with prostitutes. Not saying this is what the OP's husband is doing, but if she and her kids suffer due to his lazy providing she may need to make necessary arrangements.
Some may disagree with me, but if the OP struggles to live because he is a lousy provider and doesn't care to provide then I would suggest she leave. He needs to step up and be the leader God wants him to be or he may very well lose his family.
 
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The reason for so many broken marriages is because no one works at anything anymore. They just throw in the towel and say forget it. So many children are from broken homes. There is a reason we don't mention divorce here. To say her marriage is already over is a bit harsh. Obviously she loved him enough to marry him. Some work needs to be done first before the talk of divorce comes up. It's her decision really.
Her husband is lazy and needs to get off his butt and provide for his family. She has reason to resent him, but to divorce shouldn't happen until she has had it out with him and he does something about it or he will lose his family. I believe divorce does happen when there is financial abuse...for example money withheld from the mother to feed her kids while he goes out and gambles the money away at the casino or with prostitutes. Not saying this is what the OP's husband is doing, but if she and her kids suffer due to his lazy providing she may need to make necessary arrangements.
Some may disagree with me, but if the OP struggles to live because he is a lousy provider and doesn't care to provide then I would suggest she leave. He needs to step up and be the leader God wants him to be or he may very well lose his family.

I agree that most people now days give up too easy. Hopefully they will be able to work things out and stay together as a family. But yes he needs to provide for the family, even if that means working 12 hour shifts in a factory. I would also suggest that they take the 40 day love dare challenge. It's actually a really good book!
 
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Trust me I'm not married to a pastor... but I know how it feels to be taken for granted in a sense. But I also think we might take our loved ones for granted also... without realizing it because hey we aren't perfect. Just hang in there and continue to pray about it. *hugs*
Did your husband's behavior ever improve, or did he just remain the same even after all of this? Just curious.

Also, you need to forgive yourself. You flirted on the phone for a little while, you didn't have a mass orgy. You've asked for forgiveness from God, I'm sure, so you should accept that and move on. Flagellating yourself for the rest of your life is actually not taking that forgiveness he offers.
 
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Did your husband's behavior ever improve, or did he just remain the same even after all of this? Just curious.

Also, you need to forgive yourself. You flirted on the phone for a little while, you didn't have a mass orgy. You've asked for forgiveness from God, I'm sure, so you should accept that and move on. Flagellating yourself for the rest of your life is actually not taking that forgiveness he offers.

My husband started to act a lot better and has continued to do so. It's been 1 year ago that this all went down. I know he forgives me and I forgive myself to some extent. We are both a lot more open about speaking our mind. We don't just bottle up our feelings, and wait to unload everything at the drop of a hat. Sometimes it can be hard to talk things out but it's important even if it's awkward. I've learned to move on from this. And I've also learned when to choose my battles LOL. I'll admit at times we could fight about some silly little things. But thankfully all is well now! :)
 
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My husband started to act a lot better and has continued to do so. It's been 1 year ago that this all went down. I know he forgives me and I forgive myself to some extent. We are both a lot more open about speaking our mind. We don't just bottle up our feelings, and wait to unload everything at the drop of a hat. Sometimes it can be hard to talk things out but it's important even if it's awkward. I've learned to move on from this. And I've also learned when to choose my battles LOL. I'll admit at times we could fight about some silly little things. But thankfully all is well now! :)
Does God's forgive you "to some extent" or 100%? You do yourself a disservice and Him!! I'm glad that things improved for you, perhaps your flirtation brought things to a point that nothing else could. Something to think about! (Not that I suggest that as a means to an end.)
 
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I'll ask the obvious question, how long did you date before you married? Did he have these behaviors before you married? I ask alot of people tend to ignore red flags before they marry in hopes they can change the person or just "deal" with it. I made that mistakes 3 times, well never married them though.
 
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I'll ask the obvious question, how long did you date before you married? Did he have these behaviors before you married? I ask alot of people tend to ignore red flags before they marry in hopes they can change the person or just "deal" with it. I made that mistakes 3 times, well never married them though.
I'm not sure there's much point in playing the what-mistake-did-I-make game.

It's where does she go from here.
 
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While its true it doesn't change the current situation, but it does help to show sometimes people ignored problems and so if there is a "next time", they don't do it again. Trust me I wish someone would have asked me these questions after the first woman I nearly married.
 
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I'll ask the obvious question, how long did you date before you married? Did he have these behaviors before you married? I ask alot of people tend to ignore red flags before they marry in hopes they can change the person or just "deal" with it. I made that mistakes 3 times, well never married them though.

I am sure that I missed some character flaws. I have worked hard at staying together. I just find that I don't enjoy his company, most of what he does annoys me.

He was lazy then and continues to be lazy.
He wasn't focused then and continues to lack focus and vision.
He was good about presenting his public self differently than his private self. Everyone praises his public platform but would cringe at his private affairs.

Not asking for the you should've know just asking for sincere prayers for God's direction, peace, clarity and provision with moving ahead whether that's with or without him.

I just struggle with trying to understand God's will for this season. I am more than capable of holding my own and did so fine before marrying. Now I cannot find a job. I have applied for hundreds of jobs in the area. Pray for me please.
 
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Women can be handy too. :)

Even if you are not handy, taking care of the yard and minor home repairs are well within your abilities. Hand him the baby and do what you need to do. Even if you need to watch an example on YouTube. Just don't attempt anything that requires a professional unless you're competent. Depending on your spouse too much just breeds resentment. I nagged mine for years about keeping up the lawn and shoveling snow, simply because my dad always did it. My mom never even considered doing those things. But one day I knocked it out myself and you know what? I've done it ever since. Much easier than trying to talk my husband into it. If it's something more involved, sometimes I will watch a DIY plumbing tutorial on YouTube within ear shot of him, and that'll scare him into beating me to it.
 
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Women can be handy too. :)

Even if you are not handy, taking care of the yard and minor home repairs are well within your abilities. Hand him the baby and do what you need to do. Even if you need to watch an example on YouTube. Just don't attempt anything that requires a professional unless you're competent. Depending on your spouse too much just breeds resentment. I nagged mine for years about keeping up the lawn and shoveling snow, simply because my dad always did it. My mom never even considered doing those things. But one day I knocked it out myself and you know what? I've done it ever since. Much easier than trying to talk my husband into it. If it's something more involved, sometimes I will watch a DIY plumbing tutorial on YouTube within ear shot of him, and that'll scare him into beating me to it.
I don't mind doing. However when I find someone to do a home task. He tells me I'm not staying in my lane. ‍♀️ Oh so you'd rather the yard look a mess or for something to not be fixed?! OR the worst part is when I have someone come then he high jacks them like he called in for the service request.
 
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My husband started to act a lot better and has continued to do so. It's been 1 year ago that this all went down. I know he forgives me and I forgive myself to some extent. We are both a lot more open about speaking our mind. We don't just bottle up our feelings, and wait to unload everything at the drop of a hat. Sometimes it can be hard to talk things out but it's important even if it's awkward. I've learned to move on from this. And I've also learned when to choose my battles LOL. I'll admit at times we could fight about some silly little things. But thankfully all is well now! :)

2Co 7:9 As it is, I rejoice, not because you were grieved, but because you were grieved into repenting. For you felt a godly grief, so that you suffered no loss through us.
2Co 7:10 For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death.


Taking the lesson to heart and being mindful of weaknesses is good. But you also need to recognize that guilt is for the purpose of repentance, and salvation.
 
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Typically I get her ready while he sleeps like he's worked all night or day. He's a poor leader (no clear vision or direction), financially immature (mismanages his money and constantly is getting citations and is currently without a license). We are in an area where I cannot find work and he insists on staying for the Lords work but will not secure a second job for the much needed insurance benefits and financial security. He doesn't help clean around the house. He lets repairs linger. The yard looks a mess. He's just lazy. I just don't understand how you can be super man to your congregants and the community yet a dud at home.

How much does he actually work in this ministry position, how many hours?
Is the church a small church that cannot provide for this ministry in a way that allows you to live? Or is it just that there is enough money if he managed it better?

If a church is small enough they may band together with another small church and share a pastor.

Is he late to church functions or just to personal functions?

You indicated later you applied for hundreds of jobs, I hope you find one. Is there something that is keeping you from getting one? That is a lot of jobs to turn you down.
 
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He's a poor leader (no clear vision or direction)
financially immature
He lets repairs linger.

It sounds like he is generally disorganized. Has he made efforts to organize his schedule with a scheduling tool, etc.?

Would he let you take over the finances to assist with that part of it?
 
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I have worked hard at staying together. I just find that I don't enjoy his company, most of what he does annoys me.

What did you originally like about your husband? What was it that you saw in him when you married, before the resentment?
 
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