Help me find something?

[thejdubb02]

I couldnt find a place to post about Bible questions so I stuck it here... move it if necesary...

I am looking for a verse/verses that tell us that we will see the ones we love in Heaven, granted they recieve Jesus as well. I dont know where to look, but I have heard that it is so. Please help me with this.

I need to be sure...

 

[billwald]

Don't think any such verse exists.

 

[linssue55]

I am looking for a verse/verses that tell us that we will see the ones we love in Heaven, granted they recieve Jesus as well. I dont know where to look, but I have heard that it is so. Please help me with this.

From my personal teachings. I do know exactly what you are talking about, I agree there is a verse....this may help you in your search.


Death.....the beginning........
[FONT=arial,courier new]Death is a subject that takes a terrible beating, I'm afraid, one of the greatest blessings a Christian can experience, or at least it was designed to be that way.

"So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." (1Cor 15:54)

"According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain."
(Phil 1:20-21)

"Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints." (Psa 116:15)

Let me emphasize here that dying is not a blessing to every human being, to the contrary, many millions are justified in being terrified by it, for they will pass from this life into torments, also called tartarus, which is the "holding pen" for the souls who are destined for hell. "Terrified" is a mild word for the emotion they should be afficted with, and I do not say this in a gloating manner! I would never, under any circumstances, rejoice at the destiny of those wretched souls, nor should any Christian.

Even the most wicked of villains, Judas Eschariot, Adolf Hitler, Stalin... never took the eternal salvation from a human soul, but only their temporal life. For all the suffering they wrought, and their lack of compassion and mercy; If any of us could merely glimpse the Lake of Fire for a moment, it would be so ghastly, so horrific, that we would cringe with revulsion that any creature would abide there forever.

It is only the absolute, infinite Justice of The Righteous Judge, and each member of The Godhead, that are able to endure this knowledge. When right is done, and wickedness is forever put away from Him, He, alone, can remain at peace, for the absolute nature of eternal God is inalterable, and His Happiness is an integral part of His essence. As such, He cannot be less that tranquil in even the most extreme circumstances.

But enough of the morbid. This section is devoted to the transcendent blessing of leaving this veil of tears, and with it, the body of corruption which is the cause of so much anguish, both mental and physical. As humans we are captured by the images and emotions which fall upon our consciousness, and death is many times gruesome and unpleasant. But we are given the divine view of this event, and thus we should rejoice at the prospect of joining our Lord in Heaven.

The problem here is that we regard death only from this side of the veil of time, and fail to consider what God sees on the eternal frontier. Granted, dying can be a harrowing and grievous experience when cancer or some other rapacious disease are the cause, or a bloody death comes upon a loved one. But this is where the specter of grim conditions end, for within the twinkling of an eye, the departed soul is transported across the vast distance of deep space and into the glorious world of God's domain.

We are not informed at length of the exact nature of our arrival there, but it is reasonable to assume that God arranges a welcoming party for us, friends and loved ones who have preceded us in this long journey. Ofcourse, the highlight of that moment will surely be our introduction to The Savior, as we will be "face to face" with Him. This promise, incidentally, alludes to a body (only a body would have a face), which is another rare clue to the nature of this event. Apparently, God has arranged an "interim body" for our souls to occupy while we wait for that wonderful hour, the resurrection, when we will receive our new body, magnificent in every detail, that will be ours forever.

Perhaps it seems presumptious of me to assume a reuninon when we arrive, well hold on, for I will go further, a celebration will be declared in our honor, and angels and men alike will throng to the festivities. And what of the soul that a short time ago writhed in pain? We will be all smiles, greeting old friends and meeting new ones. Angels, who have become freinds and loved ones of our own kind, will be invited, and the whole of the murmuring crowd will be called to attention by a host, and the victory which has brought us there will be announced, along with our name, and thus we will stand, to a deafening wave of cheering.

Remember, friends, the ocassion will be our arrival, but not one soul there will not be mindful that the true cause of that festive atmosphere, and the pleasant tones of loving friendship, will be a tribute to God's great Love and mercy. This is my justification for expecting a jubilant and triumphant ambiance in that palacial room, the cheerful smiles, and engaging conversations. God is celebrating His victory over pain and death, and this is, indeed, a meaningful moment for Him, as well as us.

A celebration in Heaven is nothing like a celebration here. There will be no awareness of time, nor growing weary. You may sustain a lively get together for a week, or a month, non-stop. There will be no hunger, no need of any kind. No jealousy, contention, strife. No doubts or fears. Your expanded mentality will be able to concentrate on many stimuating activities simulntaneously, and your multi-faceted consciousness can appreciate and enjoy on a level beyond our ability to comprehend now. You may be engaged in a dozen enounters at once, and without even the slightest distraction from any one of them.

You physical state will be a marvel that will probably require a good while to adjust to. You will be weightless, and you will have an energy level that is limitless, and yet, not as we are here with a stimulant that keeps us awake. There will be no nervous reaction, but total serenity and a relaxed thought pattern. You will not be nervous, or shy meeting new friends, but experience an inner glow of complete, yet unobtrusive, confidence. Your attention to detail and enjoyment of each of them, will be extraordinary. And, your expressions of self will be genuine, without facade, or mental "game playing". There will be no apprehension, disgust, uncertainty.

Your awareness of others will be total, all consuming, and in a way thoughtful and considerate of them every moment. There will be no subjectivity or embarassment. And you will wear your warm glow of love on the outside, where others will see it, and respond with a reflected love.

Never before have you been swept along with that undercurrent of good feeling and contentment, the absence of any need to demonstrate self, explain self. You will languish in this wonderful state for many days as you become familiar with your new home, and marvel at the unlimited flow of thoughts that are pure, without a shade of uncomely nuance. Every face will transmit this same inner glow, and the communion, or what we call "bonding", will be exciting and fullfilling every moment.

And when your arrival ceremony is complete, there will be no emotional hangover, as when you take down the Christmas tree, of go back to work after a long holiday. The level of joy and placid thoughts will continue unabated, but the subjects you may dweel upon may increase in scope and frequency. Every activity, down to the simplest movement, will be articulate and gracefully executed. The beauty of Heaven will be the backdrop for this unique phenomenon, your initiation into the lifestype you will enjoy forever without end.

Far from exaggeration, if anything those splendid hours that will stretch into millenia, millions of years, are even far, far more extravagant that I am capable of imagining, or you. These are the musings of a romantic, but the best I can conjure are shadows and images of this dark and forebidding realm. We are not able to envision the world of God, any more than a painted figure in a landscape, were he alive, could imagine more than the pigment and oil, and the canvas, of his one dimensional existence. How could he concieve of flesh and blood, the sweep of clouds across a stormy sky, the fury of an angry sea beating against the shoreline? To him, only pigment, oil and his canvas world are the elements of his dreams, his plans for a future, and even his vague awareness of you.

Consider this when your loved one departs the earth, if they are a Christian ofcourse, before you surrender so anxiously to grief and despair. Surely, your world is now without a dear soul, but you can rejoice for them, as they soar away to be joined with their Creator.

[/FONT]

 

[linssue55]

​

This should help you even more..................


Will we recognize our loved ones in heaven?


2 Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds done in his body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad."
So the saved believer appears to receive his reward while the lost person appears to receive his just punishment, but either way, the reward or the punishment has to go to the one that deserves it, and not to some newly created being with no memory, and no remembrance of their past deeds. That would be equivalent of judging an infant that has no knowledge of right or wrong, and a just God is never going to do that. Accountability is what it is all about, and without a memory of your life on earth, how can you be held accountable?
Romans 14:10 But you, why do you judge your brother, or why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God.
If you wronged a brother, then someday you will have to stand before Jesus Christ and give an account of your actions. If you have no memory of your brother or the actions that you committed against him, then what is the purpose of the judgment?
The following parable tells us that saved Christians will be rewarded for faithful service and those who have fallen away will be judged and punished, so on Judgment Day, rewards and punishments are given out, not to some newly created beings as a stand in for us, but to the actual people who deserve the rewards or the punishments.
Matthew 25:31-33 "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.
(The sheep appear for their reward. The goats for punishment. The saved Christian appears before the Judgment seat not to answer for his sins, but to receive his reward. So how can you reward or punish souls if they haven't got the slightest idea what they are being rewarded or punished for.)
Revelation. 22:12 "Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.
How or why would God reward or punish someone who has no memory of his human life back on earth, and who has no idea what he is being rewarded or punished for?
He isn't because there are too many verses in the Bible that tell us that this is not going to happen. A good example of this is Romans 14:12 which takes place during the final judgment. As the books are opened and judgment is about to take place, all minds remember all sin.
Romans 14:12 says, "So then each of us shall give account of himself to God."
Each and every sin, ever committed, will be crystal clear just as if it was committed only seconds ago. There will be no doubt in anyone's mind whether or not a certain sin was ever committed. And you have to admit that many of those sins would have been committed against family members.
In none of the above verses does the Bible say that we will definitely recognize each other, but you must admit that those verses certainly indicate that we will have the same recognizable, but improved body along with a supernatural mind and a memory to go with it. God is not going to reward or punish another different replacement body, for the things you did while in your earthly body. The above verses definitely indicate that we will have the knowledge of all that we did while alive on earth and we will be rewarded or punished accordingly.
You can actually break the question of, will we know each other in heaven, down even further by asking about our faculties on the other side of the grave. Will we remember our past, those in our past, and all of our actions and deeds in the past, because this is the real issue: Will we retain all our faculties on the other side of death? The following 11 examples therefore will help show that on the other side of death's door, we will have complete and full memory of our past and we will also know and recognize all those from our past.
1) Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness."
At first glance these verses appear like they have nothing to do with our ability to recognize each other on the other side of death, but look at what these verses really say.
For in these verses, those at the judgment are pictured arguing with God about their supposedly good works while on earth. If they lost their memory at death, how could they remember their supposedly good works? (Does this not show memory?)
These verses clearly establish the fact that on the other side of death's door when we are at the last judgment, men will be possessed of the memory of deeds done while on earth! Do you see the importance of this verse? You will not only remember all the horrible things that you did to your own brothers and sisters in this life, but you will also remember all the good things. Your memory will be intact. It has to be if you are going to argue with God about what you did and didn't do to various people.
The above verse also asks the question, "Did we not cast out demons in your name"? In order to ask that question, one would first have to remember actually casting out demons. Then the person would also have to remember specific people that he was attempting to cast demons out of. So this verse tells us that there is going to be memory on the other side of the grave.
2) Matthew 25:40 "And the King will answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to Me."
Again we have the judgment scene, but why did Jesus refer to his brethren, if the people Jesus was talking to wouldn't know or wouldn't remember the brethren that Jesus was talking about?
From Matthew 25:35 to 40, Jesus talks about the sick, the poor, the hungry, etc. But the people that Jesus is talking to ask, "When did we see you sick, or hungry, etc?" In other words they were searching their memory trying to remember when they saw Jesus sick or hungry. If they didn't have any memory, why would Jesus bring up something like that for them to remember?
In the above passages we can only arrive at the conclusion that future recognition is an assured fact. In the field of criminal jurisprudence, a man is regarded as worthy of punishment for unsocial acts committed, only when it appears that he is mentally capable of recognizing the nature of his deed. In other words, we can only be punished if we are mentally aware of the wrongs that we did, and please keep in mind that our just and loving Heavenly Father is a God of justice.
3) LUKE 16:19-31 is the story of the rich man and Lazarus and the gulf that separates them. But a study of those verses will show that the rich man had all his faculties. He could feel, see, hear, and remember. If you say it is a parable, that changes nothing, because its main purpose is a glimpse into the future state of the dead. All are conscious of their surroundings. Memory is retained.
Examples of this are:
a) In verse 25, Abraham tells the rich man, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented."
b) In verses 27-28, the rich man pleads with Abraham, "Then he said, I beg you therefore Father Abraham, that you would send Lazarus to my father's house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment."
(cont)......

 

[linssue55]

4) I John 3:2 "Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we shall be. We know that, when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him just as He is."
So, if we are to be like Christ, doesn't it also include our ability to remember and recognize other people, just like Christ will be able to remember and recognize them? He can see us and will see all others, and we will not only see him but we will also see all others. He knows us and knows all others, and we will know him and know all others. He will recognize us and all others, and we will recognize him and recognize all others. He will remember us, and we will remember him and everyone we ever knew.
5) The Word of God
Do you for a moment think that when we join Our Lord in heaven that we will have forgotten completely about his Word. Of course not. Matthew 24:35 tells us, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away". So not only will we remember his word but we will remember who first taught us about his word, who we studied his Word with, who we taught and who taught us about the Word of God, and who we were able to bring a little closer to Jesus when we used and followed the Word of God.
6) Rewards
Many of us will also be receiving rewards in heaven. These rewards are called Crowns. Below are listed those 5 crowns. But as you read them think about all those saved souls that if they have no memory of their earthly existence will be saying, "what's this for", or "what did I do to get this", after they are given their crowns.
THE CROWN OF REJOICING for those who win others to Christ. This is sometimes called "the soul-winner's crown." 1 Thessalonians 2:19
THE CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS for those who look for and love Christ's return. 2 Timothy 4:8
THE CROWN OF GLORY for those who faithfully teach and preach God's Word. 1 Peter 5:4
THE INCORRUPTIBLE CROWN for those who "run a good race" in the Christian life. 1 Corinthians 9:25
THE CROWN OF LIFE. There are two ways to achieve this crown. The first way is to simply put complete faith and trust in the Lord when you are facing trials, tribulations, and hardships. When in difficult times and you are faced with pain and suffering you simply rely on the Lord that much more. "Happy is the man that keeps on enduring trial, because on becoming approved he will receive the Crown of Life." (James 1:12)
The second way to achieve the Crown of Life is to remain faithful to our Lord. Faithful to him to the very end even if it means laying down your very own life in his name. "Prove yourself faithful even to death, and I will give you the Crown of Life." (Revelation 2:10)
7) I Corinthians 15:53-55 "For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death where is your victory? O death where is your sting?"
Does not the phrase, O death where is your sting, indicate that after our own death, we are aware of the tremendous struggle that we had on earth with death? That all through our human existence we were afraid of death, that we looked upon death as the end of the line, that we were afraid that there was nothing after death. But as believers, we decided to join forces with Jesus Christ. He told us not to be afraid of death, that he could give us eternal life and victory over death. So when we say, O death where is your sting, what we are doing is throwing back into the face of death the undeniable knowledge that death can never ever hurt us. That death did not win, for this verse shows that we are conscious of our incredible triumph over that thing that worried us our whole lives.
8) I Thessalonians 4:13-14 "But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve, as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus."
If we would not recongnize one another at the resurrection, then why did Paul comfort them with the assurance that Christ would be bringing back the saved believers? If they wouldn't recognize each other then what difference would it make? If the memory of those we have loved is obliterated, their memories of us, and ours of them forever gone, how is any hope possible? If we will never see or remember those in death, then why would it be so important for God to give us hope and tell us through his Word that those that die will someday be coming back with Jesus, and we will see them and know them.
9) Revelation 6:9-11 "When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth? Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed."
Here the departed souls of saints in heaven are pictured as having their faculties intact, including their memory of their earthly death and of those who murdered them, and they are very aware of what is going on down on the earth. They want to know how long it will be before their blood is avenged. It shows that they indeed have their memories and they are aware of what is taking place on earth.
10) Matthew 8:11 "And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven."
If we won't recognize and remember one another, how would one ever know if this statement is true, and why worry about names if we won't know each other.
11) Job 19:25-27 "For I know that my Redeemer lives, And He shall stand at last on the earth; And after my skin is destroyed, this I know, That in my flesh I shall see God, Whom I shall see for myself, And my eyes shall behold him. How my heart yearns within me."
Job positively affirmed that he, Job, would see God, and he would see God with his own eyes; he would see God in the flesh (following the changes which our bodies will experience in the resurrection.) Therefore, this ancient patriarch by inspiration, assured us of the resurrection of the body, the preservation of the personality and the memory, and the identity of the resurrected person.
And lastly some questions to ask yourself if you are a person who still doesn't believe that we will recognize others in heaven.
1) Show me one Bible verse that teaches we won't recognize each other in the next life.
2) If we have no memory, will we even recognize our own selves?
3) The Word of God tells us that after the resurrection we will be like Jesus, so how can we be like Jesus and be without our memory.
4) From the evidence of the Scripture that you just read; is there more proof for believing that we will be able to recognize each other, or is there more proof that we will not?
5) If God were to do nothing but raise my body without my having any knowledge of the past, and make a being out of me (that is really not me), and put it in heaven, why should I now even be interested in eternal life while I am in this body?
6) When you get into heaven, how could you praise the Lord for your redemption and salvation from sin in this world, unless you would be able to remember that you were once lost, and had been saved?
7) To say that we will become beings without our former memory is to believe the doctrine that teaches the extinction of man's being at death, and that there is nothing after one dies, except perhaps for some type of reincarnation into another being.
And if you think about it, our entire existence on earth revolves around our family and friends. In the early years of life we are so very dependent on our parents. Then we get married and our lives revolve around our spouses and our children and all the great friends that we have. Then it is time for our grand children and great grand children.
God cares very deeply about the human family, in fact much of the Bible talks about family, friends, and neighbors. Almost all of the commandments of God deal with the people around you. So why would God suddenly take away the memory of all those precious and wonderful people when we are resurrected. It makes absolutely no sense at all. So we will have full and complete memory on the other side of death's door. We will know and recognize all those that we knew in our earthly life. When these bodies of ours are resurrected, we are going to have wonderful new and improved bodies, and I just cannot see the Lord leaving out our memory, which will cause us to forget and abandon the people we spent our lives being with and loving. And keep in mind that if we are resurrected without memory, then we won't even know or recognize Jesus Christ. In fact without our memory, we won't even remember or know who God the Father is.