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One of the cringiest things I hear a “Christian” say today is that Hell is “Separation from God” People just mindlessly repeat this completely unbiblical lie. Revelation 14:10 “he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:” There is no separation from God in Hell, Hell is God pouring out his wrath for all eternity, it isn’t some place of “separation from God” No you’re on fire!
The wicked in this world want separation from God, they hate God, Atheists and reprobates openly admit to looking forward to being one time annihilated that’s it no more God, just get burned up once and separated from God for eternity, no consequences for all of their wicked actions in this life none of it matters. No, that wouldn’t be a righteous punishment, the punishment for the wicked and unbelievers is when the God they mocked, blasphemed, insulted, pours out his full wrath on them for eternity in the presence of the lamb who they rejected, denied, scoffed at, and fully hated in their heart. Righteous everlasting conscious torment in the presence of the angels and the lamb with no end, no hope, no let up is the righteous punishment for these people, you’re always on fire for eternity with no hope of it ever ending. That’s what God's word teaches.
“Oh separation from God that’s the worst torment of them all, I can take all the other punishments but separation from God is the worst!” wrong! God pouring out his wrath on the wicked for all eternity is the worst punishment. being on fire with no hope is the worst punishment, you won’t be thinking about “separation from God” you will be in flames, and this is a man-made doctrine with no biblical basis, and takes verses out of context, twists the meaning and falsely says that the dead burn up one time and that’s it.
2 Thessalonians 1:9 is the verse used for this false doctrine And this is the verse that they will falsely hit you with, I have been hit with this verse multiple times by anti-Hell people. except that verse doesn’t teach separation, here 2 Thess 1:9 “Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” this verse is saying that they will be destroyed from the presence of the Lord. as we see in Revelation 15:8 "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled." Is this verse saying away from? Or separated from? No! it says that the glory is coming from The Lord. So we can see that 2 Thess 1:9 says “from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” it is talking about the source of where the destruction is coming from or where the smoke is coming from in the other verse.
Hell was created by God Isaiah 30:33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.” So we see that it is the Lord's breath that kindles the fire of Hell, Tophet in this verse means Hell.
Psalms 139:8 "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there."
God created all things (Colossians 1:16) Satan didn’t create the real place called Hell, Hell didn’t magically come into existence, God created it as a place of everlasting punishment for those that reject and believe not the Son, and people choose not to believe in him, that is the purpose of hell it is punishment, not separation, Hell is not an eternal timeout. Bible says Hell is a place of Fire and Brimstone, Weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth, worm dieth not, tormented, hellfire, no rest day or night, not “separation”. Using a Bible that removes the word Hell doesn’t change the reality that Hell is a place that exists in the heart of the Earth and the wicked will go there for everlasting punishment. It is impossible to escape the doctrine of hell in the old and New Testament hell is clearly described.
Now here is something else they falsely hit you with 2 Thessalonians 1:8 “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:” when that verse says “obey” well that means we must work our way to heaven. But this is false, the Gospel means good news, that Jesus died, was buried, and rose again as taught in 1 Corinthians 15 the only way to obey that is to believe that, you can’t obey what Jesus already accomplished but you can believe in it. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved Acts 16:31. You don’t obey this command by living a good life, turning from all your sins, and doing good works, no you obey it by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. The next verse 2 Thessalonians 1:10 “When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” Notice it says all them that believe, not those who repented of all their sins, live a good life.
To obey the gospel means those that believe, it is not teaching a works salvation. Those that believe will be on the right side, and those that believe not will face everlasting destruction. Salvation is by grace through faith, not of works lest any man should boast.
False people will also take these verses which mention words like perish, death, destroyed, etc. to mean that there will be annihilation and that there is no hell, but this is not what the Bible is talking about at all. To perish, or be destroyed means to be in Hell, the Bible teaches that they are dead but still conscious, the “second death” referred to in the Bible in no way means or supports annihilation theory. the Bible does not teach annihilation, that is a doctrine that cults, Atheists, and evolutionists teach and believe in, that we are just evolved animals and when we die that’s it, we cease to exist with no God.
the Bible teaches that Jesus after dying went to hell for three days and three nights then was resurrected and that he now holds the keys of hell and of death, he wasn’t annihilated! if Hell is a place of annihilation then there is no way Jesus could have returned! Jesus would not have warned so many times about Hell, everlasting punishment if it is just someplace where you go to be annihilated, or if it doesn’t exist at all.
Gods law is perfect, Gods word is perfect, the Bible is his word, it is foolish for anybody to be against Hell because “Well I just don’t think a loving God would do that” but his word says that Hell is real, God says that this is the punishment for the wicked, God is perfectly loving just all those things, what you believe is irrelevant to the reality of the situation.
“Well Jesus is nice, he isn’t like that” that same Jesus who taught to love thy neighbor, love your enemies in that same sermon said Hellfire (Matthew 5:22) People choose which verses to believe, which verses to put on a bumper sticker and take out of context and use, they choose which verses to throw at someone to push their false works salvation gospel. They make up another Jesus, another God, the one they made up in their mind, it feels better to them, not the God that is revealed in the Holy scriptures. God is real, Hell is real, it is a horrible place of everlasting destruction, torment, scary place, it isn’t a separation from God.
The wicked in this world want separation from God, they hate God, Atheists and reprobates openly admit to looking forward to being one time annihilated that’s it no more God, just get burned up once and separated from God for eternity, no consequences for all of their wicked actions in this life none of it matters. No, that wouldn’t be a righteous punishment, the punishment for the wicked and unbelievers is when the God they mocked, blasphemed, insulted, pours out his full wrath on them for eternity in the presence of the lamb who they rejected, denied, scoffed at, and fully hated in their heart. Righteous everlasting conscious torment in the presence of the angels and the lamb with no end, no hope, no let up is the righteous punishment for these people, you’re always on fire for eternity with no hope of it ever ending. That’s what God's word teaches.
“Oh separation from God that’s the worst torment of them all, I can take all the other punishments but separation from God is the worst!” wrong! God pouring out his wrath on the wicked for all eternity is the worst punishment. being on fire with no hope is the worst punishment, you won’t be thinking about “separation from God” you will be in flames, and this is a man-made doctrine with no biblical basis, and takes verses out of context, twists the meaning and falsely says that the dead burn up one time and that’s it.
2 Thessalonians 1:9 is the verse used for this false doctrine And this is the verse that they will falsely hit you with, I have been hit with this verse multiple times by anti-Hell people. except that verse doesn’t teach separation, here 2 Thess 1:9 “Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” this verse is saying that they will be destroyed from the presence of the Lord. as we see in Revelation 15:8 "And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled." Is this verse saying away from? Or separated from? No! it says that the glory is coming from The Lord. So we can see that 2 Thess 1:9 says “from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;” it is talking about the source of where the destruction is coming from or where the smoke is coming from in the other verse.
Hell was created by God Isaiah 30:33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yea, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, doth kindle it.” So we see that it is the Lord's breath that kindles the fire of Hell, Tophet in this verse means Hell.
Psalms 139:8 "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there."
God created all things (Colossians 1:16) Satan didn’t create the real place called Hell, Hell didn’t magically come into existence, God created it as a place of everlasting punishment for those that reject and believe not the Son, and people choose not to believe in him, that is the purpose of hell it is punishment, not separation, Hell is not an eternal timeout. Bible says Hell is a place of Fire and Brimstone, Weeping, wailing, gnashing of teeth, worm dieth not, tormented, hellfire, no rest day or night, not “separation”. Using a Bible that removes the word Hell doesn’t change the reality that Hell is a place that exists in the heart of the Earth and the wicked will go there for everlasting punishment. It is impossible to escape the doctrine of hell in the old and New Testament hell is clearly described.
Now here is something else they falsely hit you with 2 Thessalonians 1:8 “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:” when that verse says “obey” well that means we must work our way to heaven. But this is false, the Gospel means good news, that Jesus died, was buried, and rose again as taught in 1 Corinthians 15 the only way to obey that is to believe that, you can’t obey what Jesus already accomplished but you can believe in it. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved Acts 16:31. You don’t obey this command by living a good life, turning from all your sins, and doing good works, no you obey it by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. The next verse 2 Thessalonians 1:10 “When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.” Notice it says all them that believe, not those who repented of all their sins, live a good life.
To obey the gospel means those that believe, it is not teaching a works salvation. Those that believe will be on the right side, and those that believe not will face everlasting destruction. Salvation is by grace through faith, not of works lest any man should boast.
False people will also take these verses which mention words like perish, death, destroyed, etc. to mean that there will be annihilation and that there is no hell, but this is not what the Bible is talking about at all. To perish, or be destroyed means to be in Hell, the Bible teaches that they are dead but still conscious, the “second death” referred to in the Bible in no way means or supports annihilation theory. the Bible does not teach annihilation, that is a doctrine that cults, Atheists, and evolutionists teach and believe in, that we are just evolved animals and when we die that’s it, we cease to exist with no God.
the Bible teaches that Jesus after dying went to hell for three days and three nights then was resurrected and that he now holds the keys of hell and of death, he wasn’t annihilated! if Hell is a place of annihilation then there is no way Jesus could have returned! Jesus would not have warned so many times about Hell, everlasting punishment if it is just someplace where you go to be annihilated, or if it doesn’t exist at all.
Gods law is perfect, Gods word is perfect, the Bible is his word, it is foolish for anybody to be against Hell because “Well I just don’t think a loving God would do that” but his word says that Hell is real, God says that this is the punishment for the wicked, God is perfectly loving just all those things, what you believe is irrelevant to the reality of the situation.
“Well Jesus is nice, he isn’t like that” that same Jesus who taught to love thy neighbor, love your enemies in that same sermon said Hellfire (Matthew 5:22) People choose which verses to believe, which verses to put on a bumper sticker and take out of context and use, they choose which verses to throw at someone to push their false works salvation gospel. They make up another Jesus, another God, the one they made up in their mind, it feels better to them, not the God that is revealed in the Holy scriptures. God is real, Hell is real, it is a horrible place of everlasting destruction, torment, scary place, it isn’t a separation from God.