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Hear the Word of the Lord

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

    New Zealand
    Hosea 4:1-6 You inhabitants of the Land of Israel, hear the Word of the Lord: There is no good faith or loyalty and no [very little] acknowledgement of God in the Land. People break oaths, they kill and commit adultery. Violence and apostasy rule, there is no justice. But it is not for mankind to bring charges, it is My contention and it is with you, the prophets and priests. Day and night you blunder on in your ignorance of My true Word. You bring your nation to ruin with your want of knowledge. As you reject the teaching of God, so I reject you as My priests.
    Therefore the Land will be made desolate and all who live in it will suffer, the animals, birds and even the fish will vanish.

    Hosea 4:7-19 The more priests there are, the more they sin against Me. Their dignity I shall turn into dishonour. The leaders of My people [Judah and Israel] have given themselves to immorality and strong drink, their wits are dulled and they seek advice from divinators. A people so devoid of understanding will soon come to grief, a powerful wind will hit them and they will realize their practices and beliefs are a delusion.

    Hosea 5:1-12 Hear then, you congregation leaders of My people: Sentence is passed on you because you have misled your flocks. I shall punish all those who spread false doctrines and now all Ephraim, Israel [the Western nations] have become promiscuous and their misdeeds have barred their way back to their God. So now a terrible invader is set to devour their lands.
    Sound the alarm! On the Day of wrath and punishment Ephraim will be laid waste, certain desolation is decreed for Israel and Judah.

    Hosea 6:1-3 Come let us go back to the Lord, He has punished us but He will heal us. After two days He will revive us and on the third day, He will raise us up to live in His presence. Let us press on to know the Lord, His coming is as sure as the sunrise. He will come to us like a refreshing shower, like the spring rains He will water His people with the Holy Spirit. Ref: REB, NIV. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.

    not for mankind to bring charges’ – Isa. 3:13-15, Zeph. 3:8, Mal. 3:5, Hebrews 10:26-27

    the Land made desolate’ – Isa.28:22, Eze.20:47, Jer.6:7, Jer.7:34, Zeph.1:18, Micah 1:6

    ‘a powerful wind will hit them’ – Jer.23:19, Jer.4:26-28, Psalm 3:14-15, Joel 1:15-20

    the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath’, Isa.13:9-13, Eze.30:3-5, Zeph.1:14-1, 2 Pet.3:10

    destruction decreed for Israel and Judah’ Jer.23:9-18, Isa.25:2, Isa 28:22, Amos 6:11

    ‘teachers and leaders of the flock judged’, James 3:1, Jer.23:1-2, Rev. 2:20-22

    ‘after two days comes revival, on the third day we will live in His presence’. – Luke 13:32, 2 Peter 3:8 The Lord’s timeline: 4000 years before Christ = 4 days. Then 2000 years of church dispensation = 2 days, His people will be revived and back in the holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5 Then after the Return of Jesus, He reigns for 1000 years = 1 day, giving a total of 7000 years of earthly time and 7 days of heavenly time from Creation until Completion.
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  2. parousia70

    parousia70 Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

    United States
    Scripture teaches that human generations are perpetual.
    (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33)

    and if not perpetual:
    Deuteronomy 7:9
    Know therefore that the Lord your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations,

    Psalm 105:8
    He remembers his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,

    If we take a generation to mean 70 years, and a generation is people being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old and dying, then we are on solid scriptural footing to believe and profess that God has ordained 70,000 years of keeping his covenant to generations of Humans on earth who are being born, growing up, giving birth, growing old any dying..

    So....If we are presently 6000 years in, then we've got another 64,000 years to go.

    Of course, you'd have to believe that things like 1000 years, and 1000 generations are LITERAL for this to work.
  3. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

    New Zealand
    Common sense is a useful thing to have, also studying the context is important to understand what is meant.
  4. parousia70

    parousia70 Livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

    United States
    Indeed, and common sense tells me 1000 generations is literal because common sense tells me that successive generations come when human beings are born grow up, procreate, grow old and die, and their offspring then do the same, and so on and so on and so on...

    My grandfather was born in 1910, so that makes me the 3 rd generation in my family in 100 years... include my kids and they’re the 4th to exist in 100 year time span... 4 goes into 1000 250 times, so even if we multiply 100x 250 that gives us 25,000 years of “biblical generations” ordained in scripture, and with 6000 of those years behind us, we still have 19000 years of “the Lord’s timeline” to go....
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2019
  5. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus Hebrews 2:14.... Pesky Devil, git! Supporter

    United States
    Hear the Word of the Lord

    Genesis 1:1 (NKJV)
    "the word of the lord"occurs 262 times in 259 verses in the NKJV.

    1st time used in OT

    Gen 15:1
    After these things the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision, saying, “Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.”

    Last time used in OT

    Mal 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

    1st time used in NT and only verse in Gospels

    Luk 22:61

    And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. Then Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how He had said to him, “Before the rooster crows,[fn] you will deny Me three times.”

    Last time used in NT

    1Pe 1:25
    But the word of the LORD endures forever.”
    Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.
  6. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

    New Zealand
    Let all the earth listen;
    Isaiah 34:1-3 Approach, you nations and listen – attend you peoples. Let the earth listen, all the world and all that is in it. For the Lords anger is against all the nations and His wrath upon all their armies. He has given them over to slaughter and destruction. Joel 2:1-11 Their slain will be flung out and their blood will cover the ground. Their dead bodies will stink. Jeremiah 25:33

    Isaiah 34:4-5 All the host of heaven will fade away. The sky will roll up as a scroll.
    For My sword appears in heaven and descends in judgement on Edom – on a people whom I have doomed for destruction. Jeremiah 49:7-22

    Isaiah 34:6-17 The Lord has a sword covered in blood – the blood of lambs and goats.
    For the Lord has a sacrifice in Bozrah and a great slaughter in Edom. Their land will drink deep of their blood and be enriched by their fat.
    Obadiah 1-21

    For the Lord has a Day of vengeance, a time for retribution, to uphold Zion’s cause. Zechariah 9:14-17 Edom’s rivers will be turned into pitch and it’s soil into brimstone. Smoke from it will rise forever, no one will ever again pass through it. The owl and raven will make it their home. All wild birds and beasts will have their place in that land. Jeremiah 9:7-22 Ref. Revised English Bible, some verses condensed.

    From verse 4, we get the clue that this terrible Day of the Lords vengeance is also the Sixth Seal – Rev 6:12-17 .....There was a violent earthquake; the sun turned black and the

    moon as red as blood, stars fell to the earth, the sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up. The kings of the earth, the rich and powerful, and all men hid themselves in caves and under rocks: they called out for the earth to hide them from the One who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb. For the great Day of their vengeance has come and who can stand? Isaiah 2:12-21

    Isaiah 63:1-6... the judgement on Edom and Bozrah. Edom: the ungodly nations.” A people doomed for destruction”. Bozrah: the sheepfold, must be cleansed to become the place of safety, to which the elect will be taken, during the Tribulation. A place “at the end of the earth” a place as far as possible from Israel. Revelation 12:13-16

    Rev 7:1-8 After that......[the Sixth Seal disaster] Do not damage anything further until we have set the seal of God upon His servants. .......

    These are the 144,000 selected from the 12 groups of the Lord’s Christian people. As the 12 Disciples and the 12 sons of Jacob.

    Proved by Isaiah 66:21: where the Lord takes some of those from every race, nation and language, to be His priests. Also Revelation 5:9-10

    They go out in pairs to spread the good news of the coming Kingdom of God. Isaiah 66:19, Luke 10:1-10: 72+72 X 1000 = 144,000 This proves the Lord’s people; faithful Christians, the Israelites of God; must gather into the Land soon after it is cleansed, so the Lord’s Day of vengeance must be before the Return.

    Isaiah 30:26 describes the sun being 7 times stronger and these passages in Isaiah 34 and Joel 1:15-20 describe the results of that disaster, the land burnt and devastated.

    The effect of ‘the sky rolled up like a scroll’ will be what would happen if a Coronal Mass Ejection was exploded from the sun, by a huge sunspot. It would cause terrible loss of life and worldwide devastation. Malachi 4:1, 2 Peter 3:7 and about 70 other verses also prophesy about this forthcoming fire judgement upon all the earth’s nations.
  7. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

    It seems the sun is gearing up to perform such an event so people need to take their heads out of the sand and get prepared for the micronova that is soon to happen. This will be worse than the Carrington Event.

    Our sun is changing people. And the scientists are predicting a major event called a micronova that will devastate the Earth. Elder brother @keras has pointed to scriptures that prophecy about such an event.
  8. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

    New Zealand
    Isaiah 8:5-8 The Lord says: Because this nation [Judah] has rejected the gentle water of Shiloh, [Isaiah 5:24: the Laws and Covenant of God] then I will bring against them a flood. They will sweep through Judah and conquer the whole Land. This was fulfilled by the Babylonian and the Roman captivities. Isaiah 5:13, 2 Kings 17:18-20. But Ezekiel 21:14 says there will be: 3 swings of the Sword against Judah.

    Isaiah 8:9-10 Take note, you nations, you too will be shattered. Listen you distant peoples of the earth, prepare yourselves , devise your plans, but they will not be carried out, for the Lord is with us. Micah 4:11-12

    Isaiah 8:11-15 The Lord told me not to follow the ways of this people, not to agree to any alliance or treaty that they agree to or to fear what they fear. Isaiah 28:14-15 The Lord is the One that you must regard with fear and awe, He is the One you must hold sacred.

    But for the House of Israel and the House of Judah, He will be as a stone that causes people to trip and for the people of Jerusalem, He will be as a trap, that makes many fall and suffer. Zechariah 12:3

    Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the message, seal the instruction, so that it cannot be consulted by My disciples. 2 Timothy 4:3-4, Isaiah 29:11

    Isaiah 8:17-18 I shall wait eagerly for the Lord, who is hiding His face from Israel, I shall put my trust in Him. Here we are: all children of our Lordwe are the signs and symbols of Israel, sent by the Lord, who dwells on Mt Zion.

    Isaiah 8:19-22 Others will suggest that you consult mediums and spiritualists, who whisper and mutter, but why ask the dead for instruction, when what they say brings no light? So despondency and fear will come over those people, in their futile search for the truth, they will rebel against their rulers and their gods. Wherever they look, all is gloom and darkness and there will be no escape for them. Hosea 4:12, Jeremiah 29:8-9, Isaiah 66:17

    Isaiah 33:13-16 You dwellers afar off, hear what I have done, acknowledge My might, you that are near at hand. The godless sinners in Zion will quake with terror, with trembling they ask: Can any of us live with a devouring fire, in perpetual flames?

    The people who behave uprightly and speak the truth, who scorn to enrich themselves by extortion or bribery. Those who keep their ears and eyes from evil, it is these people who will dwell in safety, with their food assured and water never failing them.

    Isaiah 33:24 No one living there will say; I am sick and the sins of the people who [will] live in the Land will be pardoned. Isaiah 44:22, Psalms 103:1-5, Ezekiel 37:20-27 Reference: REB some verses abridged

    Listen you distant peoples, the plans and preparations of the ungodly peoples, to occupy all of the Holy Land and wipe Israel off the map, will not prevail. Psalms 83:1-18

    you dwellers afar off: Our situation now; Christians scattered around the world. 1 Peter 1:1

    Here we are: all children of the Lord; Romans 9:24-26. Faithful Christian believers are now the Israelites of God, individuals from every tribe, race, nation and language are the Lords holy people. Galatians 3:26-29, Romans 9:6-8, Revelation 5:9-1

    it is these people who will dwell in safety and prosperity: Soon after the Lord’s Day of fiery wrath, that will clear and cleanse all the holy Land, the call will go out to all the people who stood firm in their faith, Zechariah 10:8-12, to gather and live there, Hosea 2:14-23, Jeremiah 31:8-9, as God always intended His Israelite, now: the Christian peoples to be His witnesses and a light to the nations. Isaiah 43:10. Isaiah 49:8

    Bind up the message, seal the instruction, so it cannot be consulted by My disciples. Deuteronomy 29:4, Isaiah 29:9-12

    It is no wonder that the Christian church cannot sort out or properly understand prophecy. The Lord actually does not want most people to know His plans, however the prophetic Word has been given to us Christians for a reason and for those who genuinely apply themselves, putting aside all preconceived notions and false teaching; then it is possible to discern our future. Daniel 12:4-10, Hosea 12:10, 2 Peter 1:19
  9. keras

    keras Writer of studies on Bible prophecy

    New Zealand
    In my writings of the Prophetic scriptures about the end times, I find that many simply cannot see or understand the plainly revealed Word as given to us in the Bible. The Bible does tell us that the Lord can and does place a veil over those who He does not wish to understand His plans. This was done to the Jewish people in Jesus’ day and still remains upon them now.

    Matthew 13:13-15 I speak in parables, for these people look without seeing, hear without listening or understanding. The prophecy of Isaiah 6:9-10, is being fulfilled in them. Their minds have become dull, they have shut their eyes and stopped their ears. Otherwise they might see, hear and understand and then they might turn to Me and I would heal them.

    Jesus came in person to them, performing miracles and teaching eternal truths, but they failed to recognize who He was and rejected Him. They lost their chance for themselves and their descendants when they called out ‘His blood be upon us and our children’. Now, nearly 2000 years later, the Jews still actually put their hands to their ears whenever the Name of Jesus is mentioned. Christians are the only religion not permitted to emigrate to the State of Israel.

    But we Christians are told in:

    2 Timothy 4:4 In the last days, people will stop their ears to the truth and turn to fables

    2 Timothy 3:2always wanting to be taught, but incapable of attaining to a knowledge of the truth.

    So now, in the latter days, we are in the same situation of failing to properly discern the truth, turning to false teachings and therefore being made incapable of correct understanding.

    Isaiah 29:9-10 If you confuse yourself, you will remain confused, if you blind yourself, you will stay blinded, be drunk – but not with strong drink, for the Lord has poured on you a spirit of deep stupor. He has closed your eyes, [the prophets] and covered your heads. [the seers] Deuteronomy 29:4

    Isaiah 48:1-8 Hear this now, you House of Jacob! Those who invoke the God of Israel, but not with honesty and sincerity, you call yourselves His people and lean for support on the God of Israel. I revealed what will happen long ago, I declared them to you before they happened, so you could not say: We discovered these things for ourselves. From now on, I will show you new things, hidden things, so you can’t say; I know that already. For you neither heard or knew, your ears were closed long ago.

    Matthew 11:25-26 Jesus said: I thank you, Father – the Creator of the heavens and the earth, for keeping hidden these things from the learned and wise and revealing them to the uneducated. Yes, Father, for that was Your choice.
    1 Corinthians 1:20

    Daniel 12:9-10 The prophecies are to be kept secret until the time of the end. …none of the wicked will understand, only the wise leaders will understand.

    Even today, as evidenced by the incredible variety of opinions about what we face in our future, it seems that we are incapable of any sort of consensus in the interpretation of the prophecies. Isaiah 56:10-11, Deuteronomy 32:28-29

    What can we do? Each must carefully read the prophesies as given to us in the Bible, putting aside all theories, ideas or specious interpretations of people qualified as they may seem to be, and see what it is those ancient prophets are actually telling us. 2 Peter 1:19

    That is my aim and object in all my writing: to set out the Prophetic Word in easily read short articles and giving other verses to explain it, along with how what is said could literally be fulfilled in the light of our modern knowledge. If what I write about conflicts with what you have been taught and believe, then please: for your own sake, check all the scriptures in order to come to an understanding of the truth.

    Pray for understanding and do not be ‘in the dark’, about what will happen.
    1 Thess. 5:4-5, Isaiah 54:4-8, Isaiah 32:3-4