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Healing of the Great Schism ...

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by ~Anastasia~, Dec 14, 2019.

  1. ~Anastasia~

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  2. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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    What would have to change for this to happen ?

    Wouldn't they have to change The Creed back to the original ? ("And The Son")


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  3. archer75

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    "The words of the patriarch, whose security did not allow to be recorded, left some perplexed, others in tears, but none protested."

    I appreciate the positive thread title, but I don't see what there is to discuss.
     
  4. Not David

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    I think we had a post before where everyone was calling the article just dramatic bias (it is the same they are quoting there).
     
  5. dzheremi

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    Hmmm. Does HAH know something that you guys don't?
     
  6. Not David

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    Becoming Eastern Catholics!
     
  7. Lost4words

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    It would be a great day indeed
     
  8. archer75

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    This is fake news. It's to stir things up. Ridiculous.

    Fine, hate HAH if you want (I mean the authors). But ACTUALLY QUOTE HIM.

    Ridiculous.

    Fake.

     
  9. zippy2006

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  10. ~Anastasia~

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    Forgive me. I just ran across here on CF and was surprised.

    Is there info about what was actually said?
     
  11. ~Anastasia~

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    Quite frankly - IF a patriarch were to suddenly simply announce we were in communion with Rome (to answer someone's question - a very great deal would need to be discussed and frankly, Orthodoxy is not going to compromise or change) ...

    But if some part of the Church simply did it ... the rest wouldn't just follow. It can't happen that way.
     
  12. archer75

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    Sorry, Anastasia, I did not mean you. Sorry for my hasty second reply.

    Presumably, whatever was actually said was totally unobjectionable...or else it would be quoted with a source, rather than a transparent lie being offered up with the lame excuse that security prevented recording these astounding remarks.

    What we can learn from this is that someone, somewhere, wants people to think HAH is a schismatic heretic...but his words and actions don't support that idea...so they have to make stuff up.

    I do apologize to you, Anastasia. I should not have let my blood boil like that.
     
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  14. Stabat

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    A rerun of the council of Florence is that's what's going to happen now?
     
  15. zippy2006

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    It seems like no one really knows whether this is true or not.
     
  16. archer75

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    No. It's fake news.

    The article that this article links to words it's excuse differently:

    "According to the eyewitnesses, numerous patriarchal guards did not allow anyone from the brethren to record the speech of Patriarch Bartholomew."

    What a coincidence...
     
  17. archer75

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    This just in: CF purchased by Elvis as wedding gift for three-headed squirrel! Sound impossible? It was just announced at a press conference. But no recordings were permitted.
     
  18. ArmyMatt

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    it won't happen until Rome repents of her heresies, no matter who says what or whatever.
     
  19. zippy2006

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    Prohibiting recordings while speaking would be a very intelligent thing for any religious figure to do, at least at certain times.
     
  20. E.C.

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    The EP seems to want to drive the Church under the Roman Pope to be just another neglected group of Eastern Catholics.

    As an ex-Roman Catholic myself, the Orthodox Church is far better off being Orthodox, and not under Rome. If Rome were to come home, that'd be a different story.
     
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