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Healing--my favorite subject!

Discussion in 'Word of Faith' started by FrankFaith, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. FrankFaith

    FrankFaith Just don't call me late for dinner!

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    Why is it so difficult to admit that I HAVE (not MAY have) a problem in the Faith category whenever I struggle with lingering symptoms? Let me use myself for an example--right now. My faith isn't helping me much at the moment since I have been sick for a week! I think it's strep throat or maybe mono. I claim to be a believer--so what's going on here?!

    Well, for one thing, believing doesn't occur/reside in my brain, intellectually. I understand that the Word says I AM/WAS healed--I comprehend the mechanics of it--Jesus's stripes for my healing. He healed ALL, He came and healed me, by His stripes, and so on.

    But still lingering symptoms. What's up with that?!

    Here's MY unadulterated understanding of what's up with that:
    • Belief resides in the HEART, not the head (intellectual understanding). I can understand scripture all day long (or in this case, all week long), and still not receive my healing effectually.
    • Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word. Faith is necessary (our Faith affects the healing that belongs to us, IN us, according to scripture). If I have continued symptoms, I have Faith that is not functioning as I need it to function; as God intended it to function for me.
    • My eyes do not need to be on facing (or pointing out) whose fault a lack of manifested healing is, my focus needs to be on Jesus.
    The Word IS Jesus. Faith comes by HEARING, and hearing by the Word (JESUS). My Faith will function to relieve these bad symptoms WHEN I HEAR JESUS. AND I DON'T MEAN HEAR HIM WITH MY EARS AND COMPREHEND/UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAYS WITH MY BRAIN. I mean HEAR JESUS in my HEART/Spirit. WHEN MY HEART/SPIRIT COMES INTO AGREEMENT WITH JESUS/HOLY SPIRIT, I HAVE WHAT I BELIEVE.

    So who am I fooling by saying that I'm in Faith, yet possessing these bad symptoms in my body? No one--no one who knows/understands scripture. I'm actually spreading untruth. I'm on the side of anti-truth; anti-christ. If I say that I don't know why this is happening, I lie. :sorry:

    This happens to all of us--we fail. :bow: But if we place our eyes on Him/Truth and let go of the bad thoughts so that we can embrace Truth/the Word, and keep our eyes on Him/Jesus/the Word, repetively OBEYING 1 Pet 5:7 and Phil 4:8, back-to-back, over and over, we will have the Healing that we believe; our Faith will be in agreement with God's will.

    The mountain will have moved.

    What am I missing--can you help me?

    Thanks for your help!
     
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  2. Manie

    Manie Newbie

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    Hello, I wanted to add a few simple truths to what you have already said in your post. Your reality is that like you said YOU are healed. That is the truth and when you stand on that truth, meditate on that truth then every other reality (your symptoms) must submit to the only REAL reality. Pay less attention to what you feel and more attention to what you believe.
    When it doesn't look it believe the truth. When it doesn't feel like believe the truth. Resist the natural facts of the pain for the supernatural truth of your healing. John 8:31-32 says in a nutshell to continue in the truth and then the truth shall set you free.
    Manie
     
  3. FrankFaith

    FrankFaith Just don't call me late for dinner!

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    I like that!! :clap:
     
  4. tm2cruz

    tm2cruz Jesus Freak - Yeshua is my Best Friend

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    Good question, one more thing and you will have the full meaning of faith. Act as you're a healed person. I'll give you some examples from Jesus's ministries...
    "(possessed boy's father)"...But if you can do anything, take pity on us and help us."
    "'If you can'?" said Jesus. "Everything is possible for him who believes.""(NIV)
    Mark 9:22b-23

    "...'According to your faith will it be done to you'; and their sight was restored..."(NIV)
    Matthew 9:29b-30a (Read from v27)

    Matthew 9:1-8
    John 4:50
    John 5:1-9 (focus on verse 8)

    Understand these verses. Jesus told them to act as though they're healed and He do not see sick people.
    If you can't stretch your arms, act as though you are healed. Stretch it! ;)
     
  5. peacechild4

    peacechild4 My ♥ is hidden in GOD~ want to find me ~ find GOD

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    If you knew something belonged to you.. and it was rightfully yours.. you would claim it and do all you could to get it back.. especially if it was legal for you to do so..

    I see it this way.. Jesus bore the stripes for our healing.. so it is paid for.. by HIS stripes we are healed..

    We don't have it.. because we have not claimed it.. satan is lying to us.. the symptoms are lying to us.. but the truth sets us free.. JESUS is the truth.. HIS word is the truth.. Satan is a liar.. he comes to steal, kill and destroy.. HE JESUS sent HIS WORD and delivered us from all our destructions!!

    We must see it done.. and believe on what JESUS said and did and believe on it.. and submit to God.. resist the devil and his weapons used against us which our shield of faith quenches every firey dart.. and He flees..

    IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN in the physical.. if we resist the devil.. God says HE WILL FLEE.. symptoms must flee..

    We overcome by the blood of the LAMB and the word of our testimony!!

    We tell satan according to the words of GOD.. we are healed.. JESUS healed us.. because we have submitted to GOD.. and he must flee.. and he will!!

    The truth.. sets us free.. Halleujah..
     
  6. Laurie KRB

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    Hanging on desperately to what you believe (God's Word as Truth) in the face of physical, 3D symptoms is -- in my experience -- the hardest thing we can do.

    I have been there, claiming passionately "With His stripes I WAS healed - thank You, Father, thank You, Jesus!" while FEELING like I was about to die.

    Fighting what we see/feel/hear with God's word is the fight of faith. IT IS SO HARD.

    But... I've had victories. I've walked despite symptoms, claiming God's word, like He said: "Don't let this word NOT come out of your mouth! Speak the word only!" And I've experienced the victories. Sometimes quickly, sometimes weeks later... some I'm still claiming and waiting for them to break through that spirit/physical wall.

    There must be something like a chasm between the spirit and the physical worlds. What we HAVE, what God GAVE us is in the spirit realm. Where we are, in the physical, is where we need to bring those blessings.

    So we speak His word, and as we hear His word, our faith increases, and we "inherit His promises by faith... and patience."

    Sometimes that void between physical and spiritual is a very small space. When I spend hours in the word and pray in the spirit, I sometimes step over easily into the spiritual world. I've seen angels and light and even Jesus Himself as my eyes were opened to the spiritual. No, it wasn't clear, and it was instantaneous and faded quickly. But it's there, and we can access it by faith and by spending time in God's word.

    Peace and victory are ours -- bind the enemy's work in your life, don't just let him slide in with symptoms that aren't yours. Fight him, resist him and he will flee. Tell him to go, in Jesus' name!

    And speak the healing words of God until you hear them in your sleep and they begin to make the physical as real as the spiritual.

    What did Jesus say?

    Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. Freely you've been given; freely give.

    We win, Saints!
     
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2008
  7. pastor_zzub

    pastor_zzub New Member

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    On my website under ARTICLES

    (www treeoflifechurch org uk)

    are several articles on healing which seem to answer your questions fairly clearly.

    Cheers,
    |ZZ|
     
  8. gennaoanothen

    gennaoanothen Jesus-my-Lord

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    well said, Laurie krb

    I liked your homepage "the prayer of faith" bookmarked it. look forward to visiting again
     
  9. Didaskalos

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    Start from the absolute and head backwards.
    If you believed you were totally healed you would be totally healed.

    Why does Mark 11:23-24 not work for many?
    It does not work for many because most of us do not have the "God Kind of Faith." The "God Kind of Faith" believes, speaks from the belief, and does not doubt that it will come to pass.
    The confession of this is not "mountian move."
    The confession is "everything I say comes to pass."
    Who can say this from the heart? Not many.
     
  10. tm2cruz

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    you sound like Joel Osteen. ;)
    Anyway, yeah I agree! That's why they don't believe in healing because when they tried to pray, they pray and hoping. They have doubt that's why it didn't work. Now they limit God in their own theologies eh? :(
     
  11. Laurie KRB

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    We have to develop our faith, though. Faith comes through hearing, so grab hold of that scripture and keep saying it. Eventually it will make everything in your life line up with, because His words are SPIRIT and LIFE. When our words are His words, life happens.

    Sometimes it takes a while, though -- so it is VERY IMPORTANT to not get discouraged or give up. I wrote a thread based on Andrew Womack's teaching about raising the dead:

    http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7318122

    It stresses the importance of standing in the face of circumstances that don't seem to be changing.

    Just hang in there. Sometimes it takes a little while, but we can't lose unless we stop fighting.

    Peace and hope,
     
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