Have you read the letter by Ray Starmann?

[MWood]

Look it up and read it, it is a good read.

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/08/01/open-letter-to-mr-khizr-khan.html

 

[brinny]

Have you read the letter by Ray Starmann?

Look it up and read it, it is a good read.

I had never heard of Ray Starmann till now. I read the letter.

Thank you.

Here is a link to his open letter:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/08/01/open-letter-to-mr-khizr-khan.html

 

[Picky Picky]

Great. Here's a bloke who thinks Angela Merkel — one of the most distinguished leaders of our time, and an outstanding conservative — is "dimwitted".

Halfwit.

 

[dysert]

An interesting letter. The most poignant point made (imo) is that Mr. Khan's son was in fact killed by radical Muslims. Funny how that point was never emphasized in the media.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

This is the gist of it:

We don’t plan on letting our country be devoured by Muslim maniacs. We are Americans sir, and not unarmed, socialist European zombies. We will do what is necessary to protect the United States. While many Democrats and liberals see the world through rose colored glasses, conservatives understand that there is good and evil in this world. Evil must be destroyed before it destroys us.

Strong measures, wartime measures, must be taken to protect this country from those that wish to annihilate us and our way of life.

Mr. Trump’s plan to temporarily halt immigration from Muslim countries that are known to either support terrorism or harbor terrorist groups is not only pragmatic, but indeed it is constitutional. It is the constitutional duty of the president of the United States to protect this nation.

The letter is a useless mass of rah-rah conservatives! and we'll get tough! nonsense. It serves no point or purpose, then ends with justification of Trump's remarks:

You attacked Mr. Trump in front of a worldwide audience, yet you can’t understand the fact that he defends himself against attacks from you, Hillary Clinton and the left. What else is one to do sir?

Starmann's values are on display, and they match Trump's perfectly--all bluster and foolishness and the childish imperative to hit 'em back.

 

[J Cord]

An interesting letter. The most poignant point made (imo) is that Mr. Khan's son was in fact killed by radical Muslims. Funny how that point was never emphasized in the media.

Actually that is *not* an important point. During war, when a Christian kills an American soldier, I've never heard it specifically mentioned that a Christian did the killing.

 

[dysert]

Actually that is *not* an important point. During war, when a Christian kills an American soldier, I've never heard it specifically mentioned that a Christian did the killing.

When a pair of Muslims are propped before the camera at the DNC in order to bait Trump (which he foolishly took), it seems relevant to me that their son died at the hands of fellow Muslims.

Mr. & Mrs. Khan were used by the DNC to show how much they love the Muslims in contrast to how much Trump supposedly hates them. It was a low tactic even for the DNC (and sadly, it worked).

 

[SepiaAndDust]

When a pair of Muslims are propped before the camera at the DNC in order to bait Trump

They were demonstrating why Trump's idiotic policy was wrongheaded and hateful, as is the DNC's right and duty. To consider that baiting does nothing more than to show that Trump is infantile and hotheaded.

Mr. & Mrs. Khan were used by the DNC to show how much they love the Muslims in contrast to how much Trump supposedly hates them.

Hardly. It was to show that Trump's proposed policy is both wrongheaded and hateful.

 

[BlueBrown]

Yeah I read it when it appeared on Fox. Thought it was horse hockey then and I think it's horse hockey now.

 

[J Cord]

When a pair of Muslims are propped before the camera at the DNC in order to bait Trump (which he foolishly took), it seems relevant to me that their son died at the hands of fellow Muslims.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Do you think Gold star parents shouldn't be allowed to comment on Mr. Trump if they are Muslim?

Mr. & Mrs. Khan were used by the DNC to show how much they love the Muslims in contrast to how much Trump supposedly hates them. It was a low tactic even for the DNC (and sadly, it worked).

Again, are you saying Gold Star parents shouldn't be allowed to comment if they are Muslim?

 

[Albion]

Great. Here's a bloke who thinks Angela Merkel — one of the most distinguished leaders of our time, and an outstanding conservative — is "dimwitted".

Halfwit.

By her acts we know her. The rest is fluff.

 

[jayem]

When a pair of Muslims are propped before the camera at the DNC in order to bait Trump (which he foolishly took)

Off topic a bit, but he always goes ballistic when he's criticized. You must know how he's attacked a lot of people in his own party who've called him out. And that's potentially a big problem. The man, in all likelihood, has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Inordinate sensitivity to criticism is one of the symptoms. This is from the Mayo Clinic web site:

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

• Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
• Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
• Exaggerating your achievements and talents
• Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
• Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
• Requiring constant admiration
• Having a sense of entitlement
• Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
• Taking advantage of others to get what you want
• Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
• Being envious of others and believing others envy you
• Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

And this is very telling:

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. (emphasis mine.)

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...onality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568

You don't need training in psychology to see how Donald Trump exhibits many of the traits associated with NPD. Personality disorders can sometimes be managed, but they are not curable. They are life-long patterns of behavior. Any President is going to face intense criticism constantly from one side or the other. So you have to ask yourself: Is someone with such a hair trigger, who flies off the handle with little provocation, really fit for the job?

 

[dysert]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Do you think Gold star parents shouldn't be allowed to comment on Mr. Trump if they are Muslim?



Again, are you saying Gold Star parents shouldn't be allowed to comment if they are Muslim?

Of course they should be allowed to comment. All I'm saying is that they were pawns in the DNC scheme to get Trump to (predictably) go off on them. They just didn't happen to wander on stage. They were strategically chosen by the DNC to be there to draw a contrast between the DNC's feelings toward Muslims and Trump's feelings towards Muslims. Even though it was a see-through tactic, it worked.

 

[J Cord]

Of course they should be allowed to comment. All I'm saying is that they were pawns in the DNC scheme to get Trump to (predictably) go off on them. They just didn't happen to wander on stage. They were strategically chosen by the DNC to be there to draw a contrast between the DNC's feelings toward Muslims and Trump's feelings towards Muslims. Even though it was a see-through tactic, it worked.

Pawns? Considering Trump's general dislike (hatred?) of Muslims, Mr. Kahn likely wanted to give Trump a piece of his mind. Mr. Kahn probably knew he was a lot smarter than Trump, and would easily win any "war of words". Mr. Kahn was correct.

 

[AirPo]

Of course they should be allowed to comment. All I'm saying is that they were pawns in the DNC scheme to get Trump to (predictably) go off on them. They just didn't happen to wander on stage. They were strategically chosen by the DNC to be there to draw a contrast between the DNC's feelings toward Muslims and Trump's feelings towards Muslims. Even though it was a see-through tactic, it worked.

Is any of that a problem?

 

[dysert]

Is any of that a problem?

Only for Trump.

 

[Thursday]

Great. Here's a bloke who thinks Angela Merkel — one of the most distinguished leaders of our time, and an outstanding conservative — is "dimwitted".

Halfwit.

Merkel is destroying Germany with her crazed immigration policies.

What will be left of Germany in 30 years that can still be called German?

Is that what you want for the entire western world?

 

[Picky Picky]

Merkel is destroying Germany with her crazed immigration policies.

What will be left of Germany in 30 years that can still be called German?

Is that what you want for the entire western world?

Well, I don't want the entire western world to be called German — I thought we'd sorted that out when I was just a toddler.

As to "still called German" — what on earth does that mean? England is as purely "English" (if you're talking race here) as Scotland is, but that doesn't stop it being English, thank goodness.

"Destroying Germany"? What's that about? Genes? Nonsense.

 

[aieyiamfu]

Of course they should be allowed to comment. All I'm saying is that they were pawns in the DNC scheme to get Trump to (predictably) go off on them. They just didn't happen to wander on stage. They were strategically chosen by the DNC to be there to draw a contrast between the DNC's feelings toward Muslims and Trump's feelings towards Muslims. Even though it was a see-through tactic, it worked.

Do you think?

 

[Thursday]

Well, I don't want the entire western world to be called German — I thought we'd sorted that out when I was just a toddler.

As to "still called German" — what on earth does that mean? England is as purely "English" (if you're talking race here) as Scotland is, but that doesn't stop it being English, thank goodness.

"Destroying Germany"? What's that about? Genes? Nonsense.

It's about language, culture, and values.

Europe is being transformed by the millions of Muslims who are invading. In France, for example, 25% of the teenagers are Muslim.

Do you deny that the future of Europe will change dramatically once Muslims are the majority? Do you think a Europe that is majority Muslim is a good thing that should proceed without debate?