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Miles Peterson

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Gamecock said:
I was just reading some posts on a web site that the Catholic Church killed several thousand French Huguenots during the Reformation. Is that true? The site says this is a painting of the event (URL removed because I'm new)

You know, someone will probably accuse you of posting false and slanderous information, and you just watch - they'll use the painting as their proof that it isn't true....

"That picture is obviously faked. You can't tell me that a whole town held their pose long enough for the painter to capture it on canvas!"
 
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Check out Foxe's Book of Martyrs. http://www.gospelweb.net/foxeindex.htm All sorts of Horrors inflicted by minions of the Catholic Church on the folks who were following Jesus, not the (extremely corrupt in most cases) Pope. The Eastern Orthodox fared poorly as well at the hands of the Catholic Church, just for the record.
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One can hope the Catholics of today are not inclined to follow their predecessors in establishing a reign of blood and terror. Just a historical insight and warning.
 
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Miles Peterson said:
You know, someone will probably accuse you of posting false and slanderous information,
But the truth will be all that matters, right? :confused:

Miles Peterson said:
"That picture is obviously faked. You can't tell me that a whole town held their pose long enough for the painter to capture it on canvas!"

Hmmmm, well Jesus and his disciples posed for the Last Supper.....
 
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Gamecock said:
I was just reading some posts on a web site that the Catholic Church killed several thousand French Huguenots during the Reformation. Is that true? :confused: The site says this is a painting of the event:


:cry::cry: http://www.gospelcom.net/chi/ARCHIVEF/08/daily-08-23-2001.shtml

:cry: :cry:
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It is a sad legacy of the christian church that different division have seen it necessary to persecute and indeed kill each other. There were the Hugenots in France, the Covenanters in Scotland. Protestants in the past have been as cruel to catholics as catholics have been to protestants. Mostly this has been politically motivated or just plain bigotry.


Miles Peterson said:
That picture is obviously faked. You can't tell me that a whole town held their pose long enough for the painter to capture it on canvas!"

Gamecock said:
Hmmmm, well Jesus and his disciples posed for the Last Supper.....
Please tell me you guys are just kidding.

Andy
 
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Hi theFijian;
a quote from you;
Protestants in the past have been as cruel to catholics as catholics have been to protestants. Mostly this has been politically motivated or just plain bigotry.
I have to disagree that protestants have ever murdered Catholics or have been politically motivated to be prejudice. Can you site one instance in history where Protestants have murdered Catholics for no other reason than what they believe.
In Christ;
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Reminder to all: Since discussions relating to Protestant and Catholic issues can turn volatile, please strive to keep on topic and remain objective, backing up your statements with scripture where possible. Personal conflicts that may arise should be dealt with through e-mail or PM, not in the public forum.

Thank you much!
 
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Romanbear said:
I have to disagree that protestants have ever murdered Catholics or have been politically motivated to be prejudice. Can you site one instance in history where Protestants have murdered Catholics for no other reason than what they believe.
You've obviously never been to Belfast.
 
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Hi Fru;
No I haven't and I must admit that for some reason it hadn't crossed my mind. All I know of it is what the media has been saying about it all these years. I do know that it got started by the reasoning that all who aren't Catholic are heretics and the protestants not being willing to accept the rules of the RCC or submit to it's teaching.It boils down to freedom of religion.
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Andy:

Some sarcasm but a sad ring of truth. Most folks in the Renaissance were brutal and nasty but Catholics sending the Inquisition into Protestant countries caused a whole lot of hurt. :cry:

theFijian said:
It is a sad legacy of the christian church that different division have seen it necessary to persecute and indeed kill each other. There were the Hugenots in France, the Covenanters in Scotland. Protestants in the past have been as cruel to catholics as catholics have been to protestants. Mostly this has been politically motivated or just plain bigotry.




Please tell me you guys are just kidding.

Andy
 
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The Roman Catholics have a bad reputation of doing some very bad things; therefore, I wouldn't put it past them. However, fair is fair and the story may be a hoax. It is a fact, though, that the pope tried to kill Martin Luther. I think it's safe to discern by history that the Roman Catholics literally hated the Reformers and thus such an event taking place could be very possible.
 
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Mounts said:
The Roman Catholics have a bad reputation of doing some very bad things; therefore, I wouldn't put it past them. However, fair is fair and the story may be a hoax. It is a fact, though, that the pope tried to kill Martin Luther. I think it's safe to discern by history that the Roman Catholics literally hated the Reformers and thus such an event taking place could be very possible.

The stories about the Spanish actions in Holland are true and thoroughly disgusting. I do believe that in this area, the modern Catholic church has cleaned up their act.
:pray:
 
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calgal said:
The stories about the Spanish actions in Holland are true and thoroughly disgusting. I do believe that in this area, the modern Catholic church has cleaned up their act.
:pray:
Maybe, but only to make room for more error. Now the Catholic church is accepting homosexual ministers! Not only that, it wasn't really that long ago when the Catholic preachers were raping children! I'm afraid the name Roman Catholic is defiled in my ears :(.
 
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Mounts said:
Maybe, but only to make room for more error. Now the Catholic church is accepting homosexual ministers! Not only that, it wasn't really that long ago when the Catholic preachers were raping children! I'm afraid the name Roman Catholic is defiled in my ears :(.


Interestingly, Luther and Calvin started out by attempting to reform the Catholic church from within. The utter depravity they found caused them to leave the Catholic church entirely and start from scratch. Sad to see not much has changed in the last 500 years. :sigh:
 
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Ok, firstly I am a Protestant through and through, so my defence of the Catholics can not be seen as bias. Someone said earlier that the Protestants have been just as violent toward the Catholics as the Catholics have been to the Protestants. This is absolutely correct, and if you doubt this, just take a good course in Christian History. It has been going on for centuries.

I know the Catholics are allowing homosexuals to be Ministers now, but you must realsie that some Protestant denominations are also doing that. It is, by the way (IMHO), a dreadful mistake - but it is a mistake being made by both Catholics and Protestants alike.

I also have contact, in the course of my wife's work as a consellor, with many poor men who have been abused by leader's in the Protestant churches.

The Catholic church has made some dreadful mistakes, but it has also provided us with some wonderful, God-loving Priests whose vision of God we would be poorer if we never heard. It would be a tragedy if we disregarded everything that came out of the Catholic church just because some of it is wrong. And how is does that make them any different to us Protestants?


Blessings in Christ to all, Pete
 
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If you read some Reformation history you will see that much evil was done by both sides. As kings and princes became Protestant they siezed all the assets of the RC Church. They seemed, on the basis of the evidence, to be motivated by greed rather than belief. Nuns were turned out of convents with nothing but the clothes on their backs, many monks and priests were killed.

A sort of Protestant Inquisition was set up to drive out the "evils" of the RC belief. The anger, persecution, and acts of violence seemed to be about equal on both sides.

As Paul said:Ro 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

 
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Whatever injustices some have claimed were done by Protestants, the wrongs done by the church of Rome towards the Protestant church greatly outnumber. If you are true to the facts and aren't biased in your judgment of the issue, you can do nothing but agree. Shall I list instance after instance to prove my assertion? Is it necessary? I'll just list one off the top of my head: There was a plot buy several Jesuits to blow King James (the overseer of the KJV) and his family up by placing several kegs of gunpowder under the stage in which they were supposed to stand. However, the Lord interveened and the collusion was found out before they could carry out their plot :prayer: . This is just one of thousands of instances.
 
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calgal said:
And the Inquisition in Holland was particularly brutal to the Dutch Protestants who were tortured and murdered in large numbers for simply professing faith in Christ alone. :(
The Dutch seem like such a happy people, esp. with all the klompen dancing
 
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