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HAS THE ANTICHRIST 666 been found

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Eschat, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Eschat

    Eschat Newbie

  2. Jipsah

    Jipsah Blood Drinker

    I don't do video. Who does this old boy reckon is The Antichrist?
  3. josephearl

    josephearl Friend

    Do we have any Biblical proof that God does the Gemartia thing apart from the one verse in Revelation that we might not even be correctly seeing? We, well not me but lots of other people, keep looking for the AC in numbers and I have often wondered if we aren't missing something obvious. I do know one thing, if the AC can't be traced back to the Assyrian Empires old stomping grounds I ain't likely a buying it.
  4. Gary7

    Gary7 Newbie

    Using a sexagesimal alphanumeric system similar to the ancient Babylonians based on the English alphabet:

    A = 6........E = 30......I = 54.......M = 78.......Q = 102......U = 126......Y = 150
    B = 12.......F = 36.....J = 60........N = 84.......R = 108.......V = 132.....Z = 156
    C = 18......G = 42......K = 66.......O = 90.......S = 114......W = 138
    D = 24......H = 48......L = 72........P = 96.......T = 120......X = 144

    COMPUTER = 666
    WITCHCRAFT = 666
    LUCIFER (444) + HELL (222) = 666
    LUCIFER (444) + HADES (222) = 666
    DEVIL (312) + DRAGON (354) = 666
    DEAD (84) + SERPENT (582) = 666
    OLD (186) + BEELZEBUB (480) = 666
    A (6) + WICKED (330) + SATAN (330) = 666
    SATAN (330) + IS (168) + MAN (168) = 666
    A (6) + NUMBERED (492) + MAN (168) = 666
    BIO (156) + IMPLANT (510) = 666
    IMAGE (210) + OF (126) + SATAN (330) = 666
    A (6) + SATANIC (402) + MARK (258) = 666
    A (6) + SON (288) + OF (126) + BELIAL (246) = 666
    SON (288) + OF (126) + BIT** (252) = 666
    HAMAN (222) + LUCIFER (444) = 666
    ACCURSED (444) + HAMAN (222) = 666
    HELL (222) + HADES (222) + HAMAN (222) = 666
    AMALEK (258) + PERSIA (408) = 666
    A (6) + KING (246) + OF (126) + EVIL (288) = 666
    NAZI (300) + ROMAN (366) = 666
    PROUD (444) + BEING (222) = 666
    DRACULA (360) + DEMON (306) = 666
    BOOK (258) + OF (126) + THE (198) + DEAD (84) = 666
    MARK (258) + OF (126) + BEAST (282) = 666
    NEW (252) + YORK (414) = 666
    NEW (252) + WHORE (414) = 666
    A (6) + NEW (252) + BABYLON (408) = 666
    U. (126) + S. (114) + OF (126) + AMERICA (300) = 666
    NUCLEAR (444) + HELL (222) = 666
    PEOPLE (414) + SIN (252) = 666
    DAMN (192) + MURDER (474) = 666
    WICKED (330) + HATRED (336) = 666
    WICKED (330) + WISE (336) = 666
    WICKED (330) + WOLF (336) = 666
    SATAN (330) + AIRMAN (336) = 666
    A (6) + HITLER (432) + DEATH (228) = 666
    DEATH (228) + BE (42) + OF (126) + FIRE (228) = 666
    HITLER (432) + ANGEL (234) = 666
    HEBREW (366) + SNAKE (300) = 666
    FLYING (438) + DEATH (228) = 666
  5. daq

    daq Messianic

    [SIZE=+1]Too bad there is no 616 calculator! But then again if one knew for sure the number to be six hundred ten and six he would have already understood with no need of a calculator; for Lamech himself said that 'If Cain be avenged sevenfold then Lamech seventy and seven' (times sevenfold). Yet both Enoch and Lamech are written again in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, (Genesis 5) revealing that they were born into the family of the holy spiritual seed line. Therefore Tubal-Cain is sevenfold eighty and eight which is surely six hundred ten and six. These are the names of the dead having been written; men of the name, the gibboriym of old time, the Npiliym-fallen ones: for said YHWH unto Cain; Why art thou glowing in anger? And why is thy countenance fallen-naphal? And Cain fell when he slew his brother Abel; and was cursed to roam the earth as a nomad, fugitive, vagabond, in the wilderness of the land of Nod.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Revelation 17:8 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]8. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell [GSN#2730 katoikeo] on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Original Strong's Ref. #2730[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]Romanized katoikeo[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]Pronounced kat-oy-keh'-o[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]from GSN2596 and GSN3611; to house permanently, i.e. reside (literally or figuratively):[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]KJV--dwell(-er), inhabitant(-ter).[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]The Book of Life from the foundation of the world is found in Genesis Five where every name is stated to have LIVED. Both Enoch and Lamech are found therein and therefore are counted among the living in the family of YHWH, (the names are identical to Ch.4). The remainder from Genesis Four are the named who are PERMANENT DWELLERS UPON THE EARTH because their names are recorded and memorialized for all time in the holy record even though they are not of the living as the TWICE DEAD of Jude 1:12.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]1) Cain[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]2) Irad[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]3) Mehujael[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]4) Methusael[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]5) Jabal[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]6) Jubal[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]7) Tubal-Cain (7 x 88 = 616)[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Notice the seventh name has two parts: Tubal, (which means to bring forth with pomp) and the second is the return of Cain. Tubal-Cain is two names meaning: 'TO BRING FORTH CAIN' in pomp or fanfare, and Cain is therefore the eighth and of the seven:[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Revelation 17:9-11 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]9. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (Deut.7:1)[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]10. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]11. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Cain is the nomad, fugitive, vagabond, unclean spirit, old man, scapegoat `Aza'zel ~[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Luke 11:24-26 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]24. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]25. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]26. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]And the number is six hundred round about, ten horns, and six musical instruments …[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]Each in his appointed times; and none shall be alone in his appointed times …[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Alas! Who shall live when 'El doeth this?[/SIZE] :)
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2012
  6. daq

    daq Messianic

    [SIZE=+1]Number of the Beast 616 ???[/SIZE]


    Number of the Beast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    [SIZE=+1]Proverbs 6:16 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]16. These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]The lying tongue returns as a false prophet-witness breathing out lies:[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Proverbs 6:16-19 RSV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]16. There are six things which the Lord hates, seven which are an abomination to him:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]17. haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]18. a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil,[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]19. a false witness who breathes out lies, and a man who sows discord among brothers.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]Romans 6:16 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]16. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]1 Corinthians 6:16 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]16. What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]2 Corinthians 6:16 KJV[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+1]16. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.[/SIZE]
  7. Manasseh_

    Manasseh_ not the evil king Manasseh


    the beast hasn't received it's power from satan yet
    the man of sin has not been revealed yet
    and Babylon the harlot (apostate church) does not have the power she had in the past yet...........

    so "the Antichrist" has not been found...........when it does come to power there won't be a need to look for it anyway, the wise will know who and what it is........the rest of the world will be deceived by it

  8. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

    I hope you are being facetious.

    Chapter and verse designations are very late historically.
  9. daq

    daq Messianic

    [SIZE=+1]So because the modern translations of Scripture do the PEBBLE COUNTING for you, by NUMBERING chapter and verse, then what is said above is false, facetious, or in jest? Do you also believe the Scribes had electronic calculators? (now that was indeed facetious).[/SIZE] :)
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2012
  10. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

    Have you ever seen a Torah scroll? There are no chapter breakouts. There are also variations between the Masoretic texts and older Hebrew texts of the Bible.

    How about a copy of a Greek NT scroll? They are written in continuous script. There are also variations in texts between text families.

    Additionally, modern printings of the Tanak often has different chapter and verse breakdowns than the Bibles most Christians use.

    This says nothing about completely different collections of sacred texts in the Christian world today.
  11. daq

    daq Messianic

    [size=+1]With all that you have stated being true it is hard to imagine that you are actually going to continue suggesting that Revelation 13:18 does not speak of exactly this subject; mainly the 'wise shepherds' of the ekklesia-congregations, and the scribes having access to the scrolls, pebble-counting the number from the written WORD:

    ''Hode he sofia estin. Ho echon noun psefisato ton arithmon tou theriou'' …

    Original Strong's Ref. #5585
    Romanized psephizo
    Pronounced psay-fid'-zo
    from GSN5586; to use pebbles in enumeration, i.e. (generally) to compute:

    To each his own I suppose …
    [/size] :)
  12. Steve Petersen

    Steve Petersen Senior Veteran

    I was referring to your highlighting of verses starting with '6:16.' Not your other references.
  13. daq

    daq Messianic

    [size=+1]It is all interrelated and not just about whether one has seen an actual scroll or not. That would be like suggesting that one cannot speak of Moses because he was not with him in the holy mountain; or that one could not speak of Jonah the prophet because he had not himself been in the belly of the whale as Jonah. For instance are you aware that the word for 'abomination' (GSN#946 bdelugma) is employed only three times in the entirety of the four Gospel accounts? Two of those times are companion passages which record the same statement. In other words Yeshua only uses the word for 'abomination' a total of two times during his entire earthly ministry before the Cross:

    Matthew 24:15 KJV
    15. When ye therefore shall see the abomination [GSN#946 bdelugma] of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

    Mark 13:14 KJV
    14. But when ye shall see the abomination [GSN#946 bdelugma] of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

    Original Strong's Ref. #946
    Romanized bdelugma
    Pronounced bdel'-oog-mah
    from GSN0948; a detestation, i.e. (specially) idolatry:

    Luke 16:14-15 KJV
    14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
    15. And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination [GSN#946 bdelugma] in the sight of God.

    The next place we find GSN#946 bdlugma is Revelation 17:4-5. Therefore what is the abomination of desolation spoken of, in Daniel the prophet, according to the doctrine of the Master? It is the abomination which the wicked one is allowed to set up, (or the 'shoulders-arms on his part') in the heart of a man. Therefore I quoted Proverbs 6:16 not just because of the chapter and verse numbering but because of what the Scripture states concerning what is abomination according to the Scripture passage:

    Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV
    16. These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
    17. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
    18. An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
    19. A false witness that speaketh [breathing out] lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    The lying tongue then gives place to the devil accordingly:

    Ephesians 4:20-27 KJV
    20. But ye have not so learned Christ;
    21. If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
    22. That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
    23. And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
    24. And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
    25. Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
    26. Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
    27. Neither give place to the devil.

    And so the lying tongue indeed returns as a false prophet breathing out lies:

    Revelation 13:11-15 ASV
    11. And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
    12. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed.
    13. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men.
    14. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived.
    15. And it was given unto him to give breath [GSN#4151 pneuma] to it, even to the image to the breast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
  14. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    Mt. 24:15 refers to Dan. 11:31. Re: the "abomination of desolation" (the AOD), Dan. 11:31 was typically fulfilled by the AOD in 1 Maccabees 1:54, which occurred in the holy place of the 2nd Jewish temple in Jerusalem in the time of Antiochus IV. But per Mt. 24:15, the church will see the AOD in Dan. 11:31 fulfilled (antitypically) in the future, when the church will see the AOD "stand" "in" the holy place (of a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem). This future AOD could be a standing, android image of the Antichrist (the AC) (Rev. 13:15) which his followers ("they") will put in the holy place of the temple (Dan. 11:31) to be worshipped (Rev. 13:15), after "they" have stopped the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices which the ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel will have restarted in front of the temple (Dan. 11:31). This image will "pollute" the holy place of the temple (Dan. 11:31). The AC will then fulfill Dan. 11:36/2 Thes. 2:4 by sitting himself in the temple & proclaiming himself God. By the power of Satan (the dragon, Rev. 12:9), the AC (the individual-man aspect of the beast) will then rule & be worshipped by all the nations of the earth for 3.5 literal years (Rev. 13:4-8), & will physically overcome Biblical Christians in every nation (Rev. 13:7-10, 14:12-13, 20:4, Mt. 24:9-13).

    Also, from the day on which (antitypically) "the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be 1,290 days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1,335 days" (Dan. 12:11-12, Rev. 16:15). Also, because the AC will fulfill Dan. 11:31 antitypically & will fulfill Dan. 11:36 for the 1st (& only) time, then he'll also fulfill all of Dan. 11:21-45 (the 1st part of it antitypically, & the rest for the 1st & only time) when he arises on the world stage, for that passage refers to the career of the same man. And since the AC will fulfill all of Dan. 11:21-45 when he arises on the world stage, then just preceding his arising on the world stage, Dan. 11:13-19 could be antitypically fulfilled by an Iraqi Baathist General completely defeating & occupying Israel & Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Dan. 11:15-17; in v. 17, the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath").
  15. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    Re: Rev. 13:15, the "image of the beast" could be an android image of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) which the Antichrist's False Prophet (Rev. 13:11-16, 19:20) will cause to be made after the Antichrist (the AC) receives a terrible head wound (Rev. 13:3,14b) which could leave his facial & bodily appearance permanently marred, & which could render him unable to speak clearly (like someone after a bad stroke), so that the AC won't want to appear or speak in public again. Did you ever see that movie "Dave"? It had a President who was in a coma, so his handlers found a regular guy who looked exactly like the President, & had him be a public stand-in for the President. He was able to speak just like the President did. It could be like that with the AC's image; it could be the AC's "Dave", his double, that appears & speaks (Rev. 13:15) before the world instead of his wounded self. But instead of letting people think the AC's android image is the AC himself, the False Prophet (the FP) could tell people from the beginning the image isn't the AC himself, but still fully represents him.

    In Rev. 13:15, the original Greek word translated as "life" or "breath" (pneuma, G4151) can mean "spirit" in the sense of consciousness (1 Cor. 2:11a, Lk. 1:47), so that the android could appear to have a spirit, to have consciousness. The way this could be achieved would be through the android having wireless connections to huge banks of supercomputers running advanced artificial intelligence software. The FP could claim the AC's consciousness dwells within the android by means of neural networks imprinted with the AC's brain patterns. But this could be a lie, in that the android won't actually have the AC's consciousness, or any true consciousness, but will only appear to have consciousness, by its being able to pass even the most stringent Turing Test, whereby one speaks with a computer and can't tell whether it has consciousness or not, because all its answers are the same as if it had consciousness.

    But the android's "consciousness" could appear far more advanced than any human's, for it could have access to huge databases containing every fact known to man, so that the android will appear to be omniscient, so that it could convince the world it's not just a machine, but a material incarnation, a machine avatar, of the true God, a literal "deus ex machina", a literal "God from a machine". And this machine "God" could boast not only of his mental powers but also his physical powers: he could be extremely strong. And he could boast of the "immortality" of his machine body, which could be made of titanium, covered with some practically everlasting flesh-like silicone. People could just be completely awestruck by his (what they could call) "omniscient wisdom, his strength, his indestructibility". They could consider him more than worthy of worship by (in their words) "mere humanity, which is so mentally & physically limited, made out of mere flesh & blood, which is so weak & so mortal". The world will actually worship the AC's image (Rev. 13:15) just as it will actually worship Lucifer (the dragon, Satan: Rev. 12:9) & the AC (Rev. 13:4,8).
  16. daq

    daq Messianic

    [size=+1]Bible2 we have spoken before on entirely different website forum boards and you have already been given the truth from the Scripture. Yet you apparently continue to ignore the Scripture in favor of the imagery of your imagination. Do you not remember when you tried to suggest to me that there might be a whole new ''humanoid race'' to inhabit the so-called ''millennial kingdom'' because you could not answer the Scripture which was staring you in the face? A whole new ''humanoid race'' to fulfill prophecy? which is indeed not even a prophecy stating what you claimed it to be state? And now you suggest the possibility of ''android image'' or holographic imagery in a rebuilt temple? And how is it that an android holographic image would be any more of an abomination then some of the things which people now already put into the vain imaginations in the inner chambers of their imagery? I believe all that the Scripture has to offer, (unlike some so-called messianic Jews, or gentiles all dressed up as Jews, who reject Paulos) and the Scripture clearly teaches that the believer is now the temple of the Holy Spirit. Therefore the only android imagery with intellect which might become an abomination in the sight of God is the imagery which comes from the projector of the heart and plays the holographic imagery of itself on the screen which is set up in the vain imaginations of the minds of man. If only you would truly put THE BIBLE into your heart and mind you would see that there is no room for the speculations of a grandiose imagination. The temple precincts are 600x600 square round about; and the whole mountain top shall be MOST HOLY! and YOU are it if you are a disciple of Christ within the Body of Christ:

    Ezekiel 43:7-12 KJV
    7. And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.
    8. In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger.
    9. Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever.
    10. Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
    11. And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.
    12. This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

    The Ezekiel Temple is five hundred cubits by five hundred cubits square with a fifty cubit commons round about; making the overall top of the mountain six hundred by six hundred cubits round about. The temple itself has six gates: inner and outer northern gates, inner and outer southern gates, and the inner and outer gates facing the east. Each gate is sixty cubits in height and has six chambers which measure each six cubits by six cubits square. The wall of the building work is one rod, (six cubits) by one rod, (six cubits) and the cubit measure is by the cubit and a handbreadth showing that it compensates for man. These are only a few examples of the multitude of sixes found in the Ezekiel Temple of a man; and its number is the number of a man, and the number is Six-hundred, Sixty, and Six…

    Put away the carcasses of those kings from among you and go measure the pattern:

    Luke 12:24-25 KJV
    24. Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?
    25. And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit?


    [size=+1]Daniel 11:27 KJV
    27. And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
  17. hiscosmicgoldfish

    hiscosmicgoldfish Liberal Anglican


    Gematria is from the Kabbalistic practice and is not of God, that's why you find it in the Book of Revelation. 666 added up to Nero. 616 was also found in some old manuscripts of Revelation and that added up to Domitian if I remember right.
  18. dana b

    dana b Newbie

    It's not gemametra that arrives at he number of his name.

  19. daq

    daq Messianic

    [size=+1]The Revelation of Yeshua is now Kabbalah?
    Do the following two statements not appear almost identical to you?

    ''Let them measure the pattern'' … (Ezekiel 43:10)
    ''Let him with understanding count the number'' … (Revelation 13:18)

    Whosoever puts himself in the center of the holy temple, in the midst of the great congregation, also puts himself in the place of Christ and therefore has become antichrist: IN THE PLACE of Christ. We are purchased by the blood of Yeshua; poured out unto death, and are therefore no longer our own:

    1 Corinthians 6:16-20 ASV
    16. Or know ye not that he that is joined to a harlot is one body? for, The twain, saith he, shall become one flesh.
    17. But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
    18. Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
    19. Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own;
    20. for ye were bought with a price: glorify God therefore in your body.

    Hosea 13:4-9 KJV
    4. Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no Saviour beside me.
    5. I did know thee in the wilderness, in the land of great drought.
    6. According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.
    7. Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:
    8. I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.
    9. O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.

    Historical kingdoms of nations found on maps are intended only for allegory:
    A MAN is four dominions which are likened to four beasts which must needs be slain.
  20. ptomwebster

    ptomwebster Senior Member

    You guys are good at writing fiction.