Happy Reformation Day!!

[BBAS 64]

Happy Reformation day!!



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The roman church at Trent: - CANON 9: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

CANON 12 - Ifany one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified, let him be accursed

Canon 14: "If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema."

Canon 23: "lf any one saith, that a man once justified can sin no more, nor lose grace, and that therefore he that falls and sins was never truly justified; or, on the other hand, that he is able, during his whole life, to avoid all sins, even those that are venial, - except by a special privilege from God, as the Church holds in regard of the Blessed Virgin; let him be anathema."

 

[samir]

Happy Reformation day!!




The roman church at Trent: - CANON 9: "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema."

CANON 12 - Ifany one shall say that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in the divine mercy pardoning sins for Christ's sake, or that it is that confidence alone by which we are justified, let him be accursed

Canon 14: "If any one saith, that man is truly absolved from his sins and justified, because that he assuredly believed himself absolved and justified; or, that no one is truly justified but he who believes himself justified; and that, by this faith alone, absolution and justification are effected; let him be anathema."

Canon 23: "lf any one saith, that a man once justified can sin no more, nor lose grace, and that therefore he that falls and sins was never truly justified; or, on the other hand, that he is able, during his whole life, to avoid all sins, even those that are venial, - except by a special privilege from God, as the Church holds in regard of the Blessed Virgin; let him be anathema."

The Bible says the same thing as the canons of Trent. No one should be happy or celebrate when self-proclaimed "reformers" corrupt and twist scripture to their own destruction and destroy the souls of those infected with their unbiblical human traditions that contradict scripture.

 

[Fulcrum]

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

 

[BBAS 64]

The Bible says the same thing as the canons of Trent. No one should be happy or celebrate when self-proclaimed "reformers" corrupt and twist scripture to their own destruction and destroy the souls of those infected with their unbiblical human traditions that contradict scripture.

Good day, Sam

Well you have a very interesting way of personally interpreting scripture, I would refer you to Calvin's work in response to the silly inventions at Trent by the roman church.

In Him,

Bill

 

[Fulcrum]

Ephesians 2:8-9

 

[frienden thalord]

Their is a whole new reformation rising. Its called resist the all inclusive interfaith lie.
If any wants to join the time is now . For not just rome preaches it, its spreading all over
faiths and different religions and the non religious too.
My message will be plain and simple. ONLY JESUS saves and HE is no minsitir of sin.
Repent and believe the one true BIBLICAL gospel and CHRIST .

 

[samir]

Good day, Sam

Well you have a very interesting way of personally interpreting scripture, I would refer you to Calvin's work in response to the silly inventions at Trent by the roman church.

In Him,

Bill

I don't personally interpret scripture. I just believe what it says. Trent said exactly what scripture clearly taught and it agrees with how all Christians understood justification from the beginning (read the early church fathers to confirm Trent taught what Christians have always believed).

 

[amariselle]

I don't personally interpret scripture. I just believe what it says. Trent said exactly what scripture clearly taught and it agrees with how all Christians understood justification from the beginning (read the early church fathers to confirm Trent taught what Christians have always believed).

Shouldn't we read Scripture to confirm that "Trent taught what Christians always believed"?

 

[BBAS 64]

I don't personally interpret scripture. I just believe what it says. Trent said exactly what scripture clearly taught and it agrees with how all Christians understood justification from the beginning (read the early church fathers to confirm Trent taught what Christians have always believed).

Good Day, Sam

I am well read when it comes to ECF... I just need one to show historically you are in error, so many choices.

Please provide any historical basis for the ECF for your assertion please, primary sources are best as you know.... Be back in a bit with mine, good luck.

In Him,

Bill

 

[samir]

Shouldn't we read Scripture to confirm that "Trent taught what Christians always believed"?

To know what Christians have always believed you have to read their writings throughout each century to see how they interpreted scripture. Simply reading scripture won't tell you anything other than how you personally interpret based on modern culture and languages.

 

[samir]

Good Day, Sam

I am well read when it comes to ECF... I just need one to show historically you are in error, so many choices.

Please provide any historical basis for the ECF for your assertion please, primary sources are best as you know.... Be back in a bit with mine, good luck.

In Him,

Bill

I read all the ECFs up to the Council of Nicea so I'm quite certain there aren't any that disagree with Trent. Since I've read them, I know the context so I won't be fooled if you quote Clement or Polycarp out of context.

 

[amariselle]

To know what Christians have always believed you have to read their writings throughout each century to see how they interpreted scripture. Simply reading scripture won't tell you anything other than how you personally interpret based on modern culture and languages.

I'll have to disagree with you on that. (Not that following that advice would bring any clarity, but only confusion)

Only God's word is absolute truth among all we have in writing. Every teaching and opinion of men must be subject to it (as the Bereans are commended for doing when Paul taught them). We must search the Scriptures.

Only Scripture is inspired by God, not any other writings. And all true believers have the Holy Spirit to guide them in discernment.

We must test all things.