Any story sounds true untill someone tells the other side and sets the record straight proverbs 18:17 (the living Bible)
to the administrator who moved the thread, thank you for not booting me as most forums do, because of what i believe in, and i will refraim from attacking the person of hh, i would merley like to point out some of the dishonisty in Christanity in crisis book, and try and shed some light on what i believe being a member of the faith denomination.
Let me start with this I believe that the Bible is the Word of God and the final word over any doctrins made by Man, I know for a fact that Jesus is my Lord my savior, and my God, I hold the Bible with the very higest of regard more so than my very life, it is the word of God, and my ancestors was martyred to give this plow boy that book. William Tyndale is my 11th great grand uncle, Dr. Rowland Taylor (in foxes book) is my 11th great grandfather he was married to Williams sister. (Margret)
What does denominations have to do with it? The Word of Faith movement that is proposed by people like Hinn, Copeland, Hagin and others is not a denomination, it is a belief system that teaches that faith is a force and words are the container of that force. These peole believe that you can create your own reality by literally speaking it into existance. If you don't think that is heretical then you my friend are deceived.
i am "these people" so kindly let me tell you what i believe. let me just answer that with these words.
The law of faith is not some rigid demand that causes God to bow to our whim, but rather a principle by which we meet the conditions of God's covenant promises and God performs his promise. If God gives us a promise in his word we have the right to believe (faith) that God will deliver. His promises to us = God's will. and importantly this faith is not a head faith it is a "heart faith (spirit)" (That is one thing i can not understand why people claiming to be born again can not differentiate between a head faith (knowledge) and a heart faith (spirit)) The "heart faith" is the faith that God requires of us.
romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
let me quote this statment of faith
Faith is the mightiest of the mighty. It is the monarch of the realms of the mind. There is no being superior to its strength, no creature that will not bow to its divine prowess. The lack of faith makes a person despicable; it shrivels him up so small that he might live in a nutshell. Give him faith, and he is a leviathan that can dive into the depths of the sea, a giant who takes nations and crumbles them in his hand, vanquishing hosts with his sword and gathering up all the crowns as his own. There is nothing like faith. Faith makes you almost as omnipotent as God, by borrowed power of its divinity. Give us faith and we can do all things
the answer to who wrote it is Charles Spurgeon
Spurgeon, Charles H. The Triumph of Faith in a Believer's Life (Lynnwood, WA: Emerald Books, 1994) p. 36. Compiled and edited by Robert Hall.
now let me quote from scripture (kjv)
romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart:
that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
i have had christanity in crisis in my library for many years, truth of the matter is when, someone opposes what i believe i do examine what they have to say, to see which of the 2 stands up to what the Bible actually says, the Bible always wins. i used to study apolegetics so i am quite familuar with the major Christian doctrins ie salvation, trinity , etc. etc. when i would study a group that was labelled as a heretic, i gave that group the courtsey of examing their literature and examing it in the full context. that included if necessary going to old book stores and examining the books. ie "studies in the scriptures" a watchtower volume, i would even pop in on there meetings, to hear them, even went to there conventions to see if the acusations were correct, concerning the watchtower it is correct they are heretic, and i can proove it with the Bible, because i know what they trully believe,
any how when i examined christanity in crisis, i knew right away this is not the message i hear in my little faith church. so to the book shelf it goes to gather dust. some of my brothers and sisters in the Lord want to labell me as a heretic, some even (r&r adminastrators) want to tell me i will go to hell if i do not repent, while i watch them take my very own words and pull them out of context and twist them, ok so now it is time to expose the mis quotes and twisting of words by my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus.
and yes thank you very much God does Bless me. hopefully you released those words from your lips, and did not just containg them. God bless you too.(spoken)
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