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Bill O'Reily television program is on fox news. fox news is islamist controlled.

Saudi prince changes Fox's Paris riots coverage | Media | MediaGuardian
Bill O'Reilly went to Catholic school. That means he is a Catholic.
Bill O'Reilly (political commentator) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everyone knows that Catholics are controlling the world, and are planning genocide of evangelical Christians.

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Everyone also knows that simultaneously, Jews control the world and are planning the enslavement of the human race.

Jew Watch News

Bill O'Reilly is a Catholic, and he is also probably a Jew.


See, I can pull up nonsense from the internet and post it as effectively as you can.
 
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Bill O'Reilly went to Catholic school. That means he is a Catholic.
Bill O'Reilly (political commentator) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everyone knows that Catholics are controlling the world, and are planning genocide of evangelical Christians.

Chick Publications

Everyone also knows that simultaneously, Jews control the world and are planning the enslavement of the human race.

Jew Watch News

Bill O'Reilly is a Catholic, and he is also probably a Jew.


See, I can pull up nonsense from the internet and post it as effectively as you can.

Is The Guardian a hate site?
 
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Actually islamism is the worst for of imperialism and colonization. islamisms want to enslave all non-muslims by making them dhimmis.
Nope, it's all the Catholics and Jews. Catholics will kill everyone who doesn't worship Mary and pledge allegiance to the Pope, and the Jews hate everyone who is not Jewish.

Actually, according to Jack Chick, Islam was started by the Catholics. So actually Muslims are Catholics!
How the Vatican created Islam

And before you ignore the startling reality staring at you in the face, remember that Jack Chick talked to an ex-Catholic priest guy, so it must be true!!!!

And I bet the Jews had a role in starting Islam too!


So you should embrace anti-Muslim sites, anti-Jewish sites, and anti-Catholic sites!

They are all up to the same thing!
 
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Nope, it's all the Catholics and Jews. Catholics will kill everyone who doesn't worship Mary and pledge allegiance to the Pope, and the Jews hate everyone who is not Jewish.

Actually, according to Jack Chick, Islam was started by the Catholics. So actually Muslims are Catholics!
How the Vatican created Islam

And before you ignore the startling reality staring at you in the face, remember that Jack Chick talked to an ex-Catholic priest guy, so it must be true!!!!

And I bet the Jews had a role in starting Islam too!


So you should embrace anti-Muslim sites, anti-Jewish sites, and anti-Catholic sites!

They are all up to the same thing!

Well technically islam copied stuff from Christianity and Judaism.
 
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Is The Guardian a hate site?
Like every other site out there, it is controlled by the Muslim-Jewish-Catholic conspiracy (CathoJeSlim for short). In fact, I'm beginning to think that you are probably one of the CathoJeSlims yourself!

That is why you post all of these supposedly anti-Islamism sites! To distract our attention from the real problem, namely that of the CathoJewSlim cabal!

You are working for the CathoJeSlim conspiracy to destroy the white evangelical people of the United States of America!
 
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Like every other site out there, it is controlled by the Muslim-Jewish-Catholic conspiracy (CathoJeSlim for short). In fact, I'm beginning to think that you are probably one of the CathoJeSlims yourself!

That is why you post all of these supposedly anti-Islamism sites! To distract our attention from the real problem, namely that of the CathoJewSlim cabal!

You are working for the CathoJeSlim conspiracy to destroy the white evangelical people of the United States of America!

Stop trolling me.
 
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Stop trolling me.
I will not be silenced by a CathoJeSlim, who is plotting the takeover and destruction of America (and Canada)!


Tell you what, wn. You stop posting hatred and nonsense on this site that targets Muslims, and I will stop making fun of your posts.
 
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Stay sober, my friend.
Don't worry, I will. I have once in my life been so dumb as to consume a large quantity of alcohol, and I ended up making a fool of myself and spent the next morning sick as a skunk. The Bible rightly warns against drunkenness.
 
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I will not be silenced by a CathoJeSlim, who is plotting the takeover and destruction of America (and Canada)!


Tell you what, wn. You stop posting hatred and nonsense on this site that targets Muslims, and I will stop making fun of your posts.

I used The Guardian as my source. Is The Guardian full of hatred? Is the Guardian full of nonsense?
 
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I used The Guardian as my source. Is The Guardian full of hatred? Is the Guardian full of nonsense?
Do you accept the Guardian as a legitimate news source?

I do accept it. It is wrong that a Saudi prince influenced American media, even if it was a station as pathetic as FOX.

Have you read about what The Guardian is reporting about what is happening to Muslims in CAR?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/10/central-african-republic-christian-militias-revenge

Or in Burma?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/27/burma-mobs-census-western-aid-workers-flee
 
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You mean the parts that are about Muslims suffering injustices by non-Muslims?

I mean articles like this.

If Spain welcomes back its Jews, will its Muslims be next? | World news | The Guardian

The Jews were kicked out of Spain before for being Jews. The muslims were kicked out of Spain because they were invaders, occupiers and colonists. The Jews lived in Spain before the muslims invaded, occupied and colonized Spain. The article is like asking if turks can return to Greece.
 
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I mean articles like this.

If Spain welcomes back its Jews, will its Muslims be next? | World news | The Guardian

The Jews were kicked out of Spain before for being Jews. The muslims were kicked out of Spain because they were invaders, occupiers and colonists. The Jews lived in Spain before the muslims invaded, occupied and colonized Spain. The article is like asking if indonesians can return to East Timor.

The Muslims who were kicked out of Spain weren't the ones who invaded. The Moors invaded Spain in the 9th century. The expulsions of Moors took place in the 13th century. Are you suggesting that the conquerors lived 500 years?

The Muslims were kicked out of Spain for being Muslims. The Jews were kicked out for being Jews.

The Indonesia-East Timor comparison in this case is flawed, since the occupation of East Timor ended only 18 years ago. Most of the perpetrators are still alive, and unfortunately, will probably escape justice... in this life, not the next.


What did you think of the articles on CAR and Burma?
 
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The Muslims who were kicked out of Spain weren't the ones who invaded. The Moors invaded Spain in the 9th century. The expulsions of Moors took place in the 13th century. Are you suggesting that the conquerors lived 500 years?

The Muslims were kicked out of Spain for being Muslims. The Jews were kicked out for being Jews.

The Indonesia-East Timor comparison in this case is flawed, since the occupation of East Timor ended only 18 years ago. Most of the perpetrators are still alive, and unfortunately, will probably escape justice... in this life, not the next.


What did you think of the articles on CAR and Burma?

I changed the comparison. As for Central African Republic and Myanmar you would have probably heard the quote one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
 
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I changed the comparison. As for Central African Republic and Myanmar you would have probably heard the quote one person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
I have definitely heard it. That is why neo-nazi skinheads, Al Qaeda, Hamas, and other similar terrorist groups enjoy support from some.

What some see as terrorism, others see as fighting for freedom.

I see terrorism as terrorism though, and that is why I condemn the crimes perpetrated by Buddhist and 'Christian' militias in Burma and CAR, as well as those perpetrated by "Muslim" Hamas and Al Qaeda, and white supremacist groups... some of them also 'Christian'.
 
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I just found this in regards to Halal foods. It is a basic guideline for Muslims to finding Halal foods.

The same guidelines could be used in reverse for non-Muslims to avoid Halal foods

It is in three categories:

Introduction to Halal Foods
angel smiley face Muslims around the world practice the religion of Islam. The practice of Islam includes observing dietary laws which come from Islamic teachings. Islamic dietary laws define foods that are Halal, meaning lawful or permitted. Muslims avoid food and beverages that are Haram, meaning not permitted.

Many foods are clearly Halal or clearly Haram. However, certain foods are difficult to classify because of the ingredients they contain. Check for Halal certification or read food labels. Check carefully each time you buy food products, as manufacturers may change ingredients without notice.

For meat and poultry to be Halal, it must be slaughtered according to Islamic dietary laws (Zabihah).

Halal Foods (Permitted Foods)
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Rice
Pasta
Any grain product, such as bread, breakfast cereal or baked goods prepared without Haram ingredients
All vegetables and fruit: raw, dried, frozen or canned.
All vegetables and fruit cooked or served with water, butter, or vegetable oils
Milk
Yogourt, cheese and ice cream made with bacterial culture or microbial enzymes, e.g. microbial rennet
Meat and poultry slaughtered according to Islamic dietary law ("Zabihah).
Seafood
Eggs
Nuts, seeds
Peanut Butter
Tofu
Halal deli meats
Dried beans, peas and lentils
Beverages: carbonated drinks, fruit juice, punch, cocktails, tea and coffee
Fats and oils: butter, margarine, mayonnaise, vegetable oils and some salad dressings
Miscellaneous: chutneys, coconut milk, jam, pickles, spices
Desserts made with agar and/or carrageenan base only
Sweeteners: honey, sugar, syrup, chocolate liquor (roasted ground cocoa bean syrup)
Main dish entrées: any Zabihah meat or alternative dish, pizza, pasta or rice prepared without Haram foods and ingredients
Soups/sauces: any made without Haram foods and ingredients
Desserts and sweets: any made without alcohol, or without pure or artificial vanilla extract

Haram Foods (Not Permitted)

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  • Any grain products prepared with Haram ingredients such as alcohol, animal shortening, lard or pure and artificial vanilla extract
  • Any vegetables and fruit prepared with alcohol, animal shortening, bacon, gelatin, lard or some margarines which contain monoglycerides or diglycerides from an animal source
  • Cheese, yogourt, ice cream, frozen tofu desserts made with animal rennet, gelatin, lipase, pepsin, pure or artificial vanilla extract or whey
  • Pork and pork products, e.g. bacon, deli meats, ham and sausage
  • Blood used as an ingredient or used in preparing the food
  • Meat and poultry not slaughtered according to Islamic dietary law
  • Canned beans, peas and lentils containing pork
  • Any meat and meat alternative dish prepared with alcohol, pork products or animal shortening
  • Beverages: beer, wine, alcohol, liqueur
  • Fats and oils: animal shortening, lard
  • Miscellaneous: chocolates/candies made with alcohol or pure or artificial vanilla extract
  • Desserts made with gelatin
  • Sweeteners: chocolate liqueur (made from alcohol
  • Main dish entrées: any combination foods prepared with Haram foods and ingredients
  • Soups/sauces: any prepared with Haram foods and ingredients
  • Desserts and sweets: any prepared with alcohol, pure or artificial vanilla extract or any other Haram ingredient



Now in summation for a Muslim to be certain of not eating Haram foods this is a List of things to not ear.

For non-Muslims who desire to avoid Halal food simply limit your diet to these things.

Just don't eat these things:


Pork and its by-products e.g. gelatin, lipase, pepsin
Meat from animals not slaughtered according to the Islamic dietary law
Alcohol and foods prepared with alcohol e.g. candies and cakes that include alcohol such as rum cake
Foods made with pure or artificial vanilla extract (vanilla is prepared with alcohol)
Foods containing blood and blood by-products e.g. blood pudding
Foods made with any of the following: whey prepared with non-microbial enzyme, rennet, animal shortening, monoglycerides and diglycerides from an animal source, sodium stearoyl-lactylate, L-cysteine.

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One thing to be aware of virtually all Goat and Lamb is Halal as Muslims consume the vast majority of it. It is more cost effective to produce it all halal.

You can find non-Halal goat and Lamb from local slaughter houses or by special order.
 
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I just found this in regards to Halal foods. It is a basic guideline for Muslims to finding Halal foods.

The same guidelines could be used in reverse for non-Muslims to avoid Halal foods

It is in three categories:









Now in summation for a Muslim to be certain of not eating Haram foods this is a List of things to not ear.

For non-Muslims who desire to avoid Halal food simply limit your diet to these things.



SOURCE

One thing to be aware of virtually all Goat and Lamb is Halal as Muslims consume the vast majority of it. It is more cost effective to produce it all halal.

You can find non-Halal goat and Lamb from local slaughter houses or by special order.

I distinguish between halal certified products and halal products.
 
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I distinguish between halal certified products and halal products.

What about lamb sold in a non-Islamic store?

As virtually all Lamb is slaughtered Halal even if it is going to be sold in a store that sells pork and will no longer be considered Halal?

Should it still be labelled Halal as it is no longer Halal

What about a can of corn, should it be certified halal to show it has no additives and a Muslim may eat it?
 
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