Halal Explained

[TG123]

LOL! I don't eat mammals, anything that nurses their young. I am allergic to wheat so of course I dont drink beer.

In that case, your halal boycott will probably lead to a painful death by starvation and dehydration. Even water is halal.

I would encourage you to not commit suicide, and, instead of boycotting halal, share the Gospel with Muslims and oppose only those who use violence and terror, like actual terrorist groups. Examples would include Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas. I would also encourage you to oppose also non-Muslims who use violence and terror. Examples would include the US Government, the Israeli Defence Force, and the CIA.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

"The mercy of Islam extends beyond human beings to all living creations of God. Islam prohibits cruelty to animals. Fourteen hundred years ago, long before the modern animal rights movement began with the publication of Peter Singer’s book, “Animal Liberation,” in 1975, Islam required kindness to animals and cruelty to them a sufficient reason for a person to be thrown into the Fire!"

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/185/

This is illustrated by the Prophet who told his companions to give the mother bird her stolen babies back, he forbade target practice on living creatures, he said that a prostitute (and in another place, a man) was forgiven by Allaah because she gave an extremely thirsty dog water, he said that a woman who tied a cat up and didn't feed it will be in Hell, and as I mentioned in my first post, he told us that Allaah prescribed excellence in all things including in the slaughter of animals (by sharpening the knives in order to minimize their pain).

Alhamdulillah for Islaam.

 

[wn123455]

I have seen evidence of people beginning to boycott halal foods. People need to be informed.

It would be nice to have something like a demonstration in front of an indonesian muslim restaurant. BDS activists can demonstrate in front of an Israeli restaurant after all.

 

[TG123]

It would be nice to have something like a demonstration in front of an indonesian muslim restaurant. BDS activists can demonstrate in front of an Israeli restaurant after all.

I would demonstrate in front of an Indonesian restaurant if its owner was doing business in, or had branches in West Papua. Likewise, I would demonstrate in front of an Israeli restaurant if it was doing business in or had branches in the West Bank. I wouldn't picket an Indonesian restaurant just for being Indonesian, or an Israeli restaurant just for being Israeli.

I would support a picket of an Israeli or Indonesian embassy though, on any day.

 

[TG123]

"The mercy of Islam extends beyond human beings to all living creations of God. Islam prohibits cruelty to animals. Fourteen hundred years ago, long before the modern animal rights movement began with the publication of Peter Singer’s book, “Animal Liberation,” in 1975, Islam required kindness to animals and cruelty to them a sufficient reason for a person to be thrown into the Fire!"

Humane Treatment of Animals - The Religion of Islam

This is illustrated by the Prophet who told his companions to give the mother bird her stolen babies back, he forbade target practice on living creatures, he said that a prostitute (and in another place, a man) was forgiven by Allaah because she gave an extremely thirsty dog water, he said that a woman who tied a cat up and didn't feed it will be in Hell, and as I mentioned in my first post, he told us that Allaah prescribed excellence in all things including in the slaughter of animals (by sharpening the knives in order to minimize their pain).

Alhamdulillah for Islaam.

Cool, that is good Islam teaches its adherents to be kind to most animals. Although the Bible tells us that we are God's stewards and that God cares for the sparrows, Islam is more explicit in teaching its followers to not harm animals. I commend that.

I still think, however, that halal and kosher forms of slaughter are not the least painful ways to kill animals that we eat. I think they are more humane than most methods used by other slaughterhouses, however, there are also non-Muslims who kill animals just as if not more humanely.

Does Islam's required kindness to animals extend to salamanders?

 

[simplegifts]

You are probably going to end up eating mostly halal foods then.

BUT I pray over my food mentioning Jesus as Lord.

 

[simplegifts]

In that case, your halal boycott will probably lead to a painful death by starvation and dehydration. Even water is halal.

I would encourage you to not commit suicide, and, instead of boycotting halal, share the Gospel with Muslims and oppose only those who use violence and terror, like actual terrorist groups. Examples would include Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas. I would also encourage you to oppose also non-Muslims who use violence and terror. Examples would include the US Government, the Israeli Defence Force, and the CIA.

hehe!! BUT I pray over my food mentioning Jesus as Lord.

 

[WoodrowX2]

It would be nice to have something like a demonstration in front of an indonesian muslim restaurant. BDS activists can demonstrate in front of an Israeli restaurant after all.

There seems to be a shortage of them in the USA. I do not think there are any in North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana or Wyoming.

I can probably hold a 1 person demonstration at the one KFC in Fargo. That is the closest one to me and it is only 124 Miles from me. If I remember right it has Halal food but it is not owned by Muslims and none work at it.

 

[wn123455]

I would demonstrate in front of an Indonesian restaurant if its owner was doing business in, or had branches in West Papua. Likewise, I would demonstrate in front of an Israeli restaurant if it was doing business in or had branches in the West Bank. I wouldn't picket an Indonesian restaurant just for being Indonesian, or an Israeli restaurant just for being Israeli.

I would support a picket of an Israeli or Indonesian embassy though, on any day.

Even if the indonesian muslim restaurant had no branches in West Papua it is still alright to have a demonstration because the restaurant symbolizes indonesia.

Max Brenner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In May 2013, the Australian national newspaper reported on a YouTube video segment that featured an interview with Australian BDS supporter Patrick Harrison, who is also a spokesperson for the Palestine Action Group. Harrison stated in the interview: ".. financially speaking there isn't really any connection between this Max Brenner store in particular and Israel," referring to the BDS movement's protests against the Max Brenner store in the Sydney, Australia suburb of Paramatta, but further explained that the retail outlet has become a "cultural ambassador for Israel". Harrison then clarified that the "cultural ambassador" notion was based upon the manner in which Zionist supporters had maintained a presence at the chocolate stores to show their firm opposition to the movement that Harrison is a member of.[37][38]

 

[wn123455]

There seems to be a shortage of them in the USA. I do not think there are any in North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana or Wyoming.

I can probably hold a 1 person demonstration at the one KFC in Fargo. That is the closest one to me and it is only 124 Miles from me. If I remember right it has Halal food but it is not owned by Muslims and none work at it.

Two can play the same ‘BOYCOTT’ game | BARE NAKED ISLAM

I think listing islamist businesses and spreading lists of islamist businesses around for people to boycott would be more effective then demonstration. islamist businesses fund terrorism, islamic imperialism, islamic colonialism, islamization of countries etc... I am certainly not going to buy from an islamist business that helps the indonesian colonization of West Papua.

 

[TG123]

hehe!! BUT I pray over my food mentioning Jesus as Lord.

So do I.

 

[TG123]

Even if the indonesian muslim restaurant had no branches in West Papua it is still alright to have a demonstration because the restaurant symbolizes indonesia.

Max Brenner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you feel the same way about Israeli restaurants?

Are you an admirer of the BDS movement, who is eager to copy their tactics and philosophy? It would I suppose be a step up from cannibalistic militiamen in CAR or Buddhist priests who advocate ethnic violence, but still, I wouldn't recommend copying BDS.

I believe it is immoral to target and boycott businesses simply because their owners are of a certain ethnic or religious group. This as true of Israelis as it is of Indonesians.

 

[wn123455]

Do you feel the same way about Israeli restaurants?

Are you an admirer of the BDS movement, who is eager to copy their tactics and philosophy? It would I suppose be a step up from cannibalistic militiamen in CAR or Buddhist priests who advocate ethnic violence, but still, I wouldn't recommend copying BDS.

I believe it is immoral to target and boycott businesses simply because their owners are of a certain ethnic or religious group. This as true of Israelis as it is of Indonesians.

If BDS can pull that off then anyone else can pull something similar off.

 

[TG123]

I like the title of the article you posted, wn.

"Two can play the same BOYCOTT game".

Boycotting people simply because of their ethnicity or beliefs is a sick "game" that only bigots like to play. It is "played" by BDS. It was "played" by the SA in Germany in the 1930s. Now you want to join in and "play" too.


Tell me, if a neighbour of yours raped one of your children, would you respond by raping one of his?

That is more or less how ethnically and religiously motivated boycotts operate.

 

[TG123]

If BDS can pull that off then anyone else can pull something similar off.

Fair enough, you want to get down in the dirt and sink to their level.

OK.

Do you also drive around in your car, taking potshots at people who aren't from your neighbourhood, particularly those coming from black or Mexican ones? After all, that is what the Crips and Bloods and MS-13 do...

 

[wn123455]

I like the title of the article you posted, wn.

"Two can play the same BOYCOTT game".

Boycotting people simply because of their ethnicity or beliefs is a sick "game" that only bigots like to play. It is "played" by BDS. It was "played" by the SA in Germany in the 1930s. Now you want to join in and "play" too.


Tell me, if a neighbour of yours raped one of your children, would you respond by raping one of his?

That is more or less how ethnically and religiously motivated boycotts operate.

It's not just BARENAKEDISLAM encouraging people to boycott islamic businesses. Wirathu also made a speech to encourage the boycott of islamic businesses. Wirathu is a respected Buddhist monk.

 

[WoodrowX2]

Cool, that is good Islam teaches its adherents to be kind to most animals. Although the Bible tells us that we are God's stewards and that God cares for the sparrows, Islam is more explicit in teaching its followers to not harm animals. I commend that.

I still think, however, that halal and kosher forms of slaughter are not the least painful ways to kill animals that we eat. I think they are more humane than most methods used by other slaughterhouses, however, there are also non-Muslims who kill animals just as if not more humanely.

Does Islam's required kindness to animals extend to salamanders?

There are 5 animals we are permitted to kill on sight.Crows, Kites, Mice, Scorpions and Rabid Dogs (this is from Ahadith, none are mentioned in the Qur'an) but even when killing these it is to be done swiftly and with as little pain as possible. Hunting is forbidden in Islam except for food. So even with the "permitted" animals we are not to go out deliberately looking for them

Side Bar: The particular hadith was narrated/witnessed by 7 different people 6 of them specify RABID dogs. One of them left out the word rabid. That is the witness most hate sites quote without ever mentioning the other 6 witnesses.

There are ahadith that some people think command us to kill Salamanders


Salamander is mentioned in 4 ahadith compiled by Sahih Bukhari

1) Narrated 'Aisha the wife of the Prophet: Allah's Apostle called the salamander a bad animal, but I did not hear him ordering it to be killed." (Book #29, Hadith #57)

(2) Narrated Aisha: The Prophet called the salamander, a mischief-doer. I have not heard him ordering that it should be killed. Sad bin Waqqas claims that the Prophet ordered that it should be killed. (Book #54, Hadith #525)

(3) Narrated Um Sharik: That the Prophet ordered her to kill salamanders. (Book #54, Hadith #526)

(4) Narrated Um Sharik: Allah's Apostle ordered that the salamander should be killed and said, "It (i.e. the salamander) blew (the fire) on Abraham." (Book #55, Hadith #579)


From these Ahadith there does not seem to be a general permission or command to kill salamanders. but for some reason he told Sad bin Waqqas and um Sharik to do so.

But we do not know the conditions or reasons he told them to. Anyhow there is no command for all people to go around killing salamanders


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Even then we should do so swiftly and with minimal pain.

 

[TG123]

It's not just BARENAKEDISLAM encouraging people to boycott islamic businesses. Wirathu also made a speech to encourage the boycott of islamic businesses. Wirathu is a respected Buddhist monk.

Oh I know that. Antisemitic Eastern Europeans weren't the only ones who boycotted Jewish businesses in the 1930s also. Respected German statesmen like Adolf Hitler did the same.

 

[wn123455]

Oh I know that. Antisemitic Eastern Europeans weren't the only ones who boycotted Jewish businesses in the 1930s also. Respected German statesmen like Adolf Hitler did the same.

Wirathu is respected because his view on islam is true. When Wirathu said islam influences the media it is true.

Saudi prince changes Fox's Paris riots coverage | Media | MediaGuardian

Fox News was ordered to alter its coverage of the riots in France after a Saudi prince with shares in its parent company News Corporation complained to Rupert Murdoch.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul aziz Al-Saud told a conference in Dubai he had telephoned Mr Murdoch after seeing a strapline on the news channel describing the disturbances as "Muslim riots".

"I picked up the phone and called Murdoch and said that I was speaking not as a shareholder, but as a viewer of Fox. I said that these are not Muslim riots, they are riots," Campaign Middle East magazine quoted the prince as saying.

"He investigated the matter and called Fox and within half an hour it was changed from 'Muslim riots' to 'civil riots'."

The prince said his intervention had been an example of how Muslim people can change the portrayal of their religion in the western media - although few Fox viewers will have his contacts.

It is not the first time he has admitted to trying to influence Mr Murdoch's coverage of sensitive issues.

ISLAM'S 20 YEAR PLAN FOR AMERICA – so how's it going so far? | BARE NAKED ISLAM

ISLAM'S 20 YEAR PLAN FOR AMERICA – so how's it going so far?

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the internet by buying the corporations or a controlling stock.

You have used al jazeera as a source before.

الجزيرة.نت

The role of the Zionist media in the escalation of disputes " The first impressions of the American students from the Arabs created by the media and Hollywood movies and television news footage and regular protests for America

" Zionist media took advantage of the events of September for the implementation of an information campaign using the American media controlled by Zionist circles, and for months was to inform the Zionist several directions,

The first trend represents where the portrayal of Arabs as terrorists and killers, and that what happened in America is not only an act of Arab Muslims who hate freedom and democracy. In the second trend media devoted himself to push the U.S. administration and the American people to wage a devastating war on all countries that harbor terrorists, so he said, taking advantage of the situation so the American Psychological. In the third trend linking the Zionist media what happened in America, what is happening in Palestine, and tried in various ways to show Palestinian terrorists and murderers. In the fourth trend Photos Zionist media Zionists that they are more eager to share America's military in the military campaign against Afghanistan, and it was intended that the launch of full freedom of the Zionist entity to carry out a larger process of liquidation of the Palestinians, and to implement some of the strikes harsh on Lebanon and the Arab countries.

In a study conducted over 26 and October 27 / October 2001 involving twenty students from the Fulbright program with a similar number of students from the University of Maryland, showed the number of American students that their impressions of the first of the Arabs created by the media and Hollywood films and footage TV news and regular protests to America, Arab students also expressed their impressions of Americans that they are also from the media.

I hope al jazeera did not brainwash you into thinking Zionists control the media. You will never see al jazeera english publish this kind of stuff. But if you translate stuff from al jazeera arabic you will see this kind of stuff.

 

[LoAmmi]

It's not just BARENAKEDISLAM encouraging people to boycott islamic businesses. Wirathu also made a speech to encourage the boycott of islamic businesses. Wirathu is a respected Buddhist monk.

because racism!