Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience protections they deem ‘discriminatory’

[Semper-Fi]

"President Joe Biden is facing pressure from fellow Democrats to eliminate a division of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) created under the Trump administration in 2018. The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division in the HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) was established to ensure the federal enforcement of laws that exist to protect the fundamental rights of conscience and religious freedom......:

Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience
protections they deem ‘discriminatory’
Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience protections they deem 'discriminatory'

 

[loveofourlord]

well I'm 50/50 on this one way I agree with removing it is where you run into problems with catholic hospitals refusing to save a woman life if doing so might kill the child and puts her at risk, been a few issues over the years with that and a few attempts to make it legal.

 

[Tanj]

"President Joe Biden is facing pressure from fellow Democrats to eliminate a division of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) created under the Trump administration in 2018. The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division in the HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) was established to ensure the federal enforcement of laws that exist to protect the fundamental rights of conscience and religious freedom......:

Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience
protections they deem ‘discriminatory’
Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience protections they deem 'discriminatory'

Eliminating the division doesn't eliminate the laws. Is there any particular reason religious freedom law enforcement needs an entire division?

 

[Semper-Fi]

"Similarly, on the list of demands from the Secular Democrats of America is,
“Dismantle the HHS Conscience and Religious Freedom Division,” along with the
call to repeal an executive order that protected free speech and religious liberty,
and to withdraw funding for pro-life pregnancy centers and abstinence-only education programs. Another demand is to increase vaccination rates by repealing all nonmedical exemptions to mandatory vaccination for children in schools and daycare centers.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

"Similarly, on the list of demands from the Secular Democrats of America is,
“Dismantle the HHS Conscience and Religious Freedom Division,” along with the
call to repeal an executive order that protected free speech and religious liberty,
and to withdraw funding for pro-life pregnancy centers and abstinence-only education programs. Another demand is to increase vaccination rates by repealing all nonmedical exemptions to mandatory vaccination for children in schools and daycare centers.

I see no problems with any of this. Why does there need to be an executive order protecting religious liberty when such is already guaranteed by the Constitution? Why should the federal government fund programs that have been shown to be less effective at preventing unwanted pregnancies? Why should people be allowed to skip vaccinating their children simply because they feel like it?

 

[FireDragon76]

"President Joe Biden is facing pressure from fellow Democrats to eliminate a division of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) created under the Trump administration in 2018. The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division in the HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) was established to ensure the federal enforcement of laws that exist to protect the fundamental rights of conscience and religious freedom......:

Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience
protections they deem ‘discriminatory’
Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience protections they deem 'discriminatory'

Where is the "right of conscience" mentioned in the Constitution?

 

[disciple Clint]

"President Joe Biden is facing pressure from fellow Democrats to eliminate a division of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) created under the Trump administration in 2018. The Conscience and Religious Freedom Division in the HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) was established to ensure the federal enforcement of laws that exist to protect the fundamental rights of conscience and religious freedom......:

Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience
protections they deem ‘discriminatory’
Groups press President Biden to eliminate conscience protections they deem 'discriminatory'

At some point in time all these executive orders and changes that favor the progressives are going to cause progressives to lose elections.

 

[FireDragon76]

At some point in time all these executive orders and changes that favor the progressives are going to cause progressives to lose elections.

The majority of Americans that would be so offended by Biden's executive orders, to the point it would alter their votes, are literally dying every day.

 

[disciple Clint]

The majority of Americans that would be so offended by Biden's executive orders, to the point it would alter their votes, are literally dying every day.

Is that somehow related to the progressive agenda?

 

[loveofourlord]

At some point in time all these executive orders and changes that favor the progressives are going to cause progressives to lose elections.

Funny given that most of the country supports many left wing ideals, and as pointed out it's literally a dying breed that disagrees.

 

[loveofourlord]

Is that somehow related to the progressive agenda?

It is when 60%+ of americans support stricter gun control, abortion, gay marriage and other things, and while some young people do. The majority of those opposed to these liberal ideas tend to be the growing older population. The same group that the republicans spent a year trying to kill off with covid.

 

[disciple Clint]

Funny given that most of the country supports many left wing ideals, and as pointed out it's literally a dying breed that disagrees.

There are millions who are just now waking up to what the left is all about. the Many and Most are soon to be the few and almost none who accept the ideas of the left. Watch and learn.

 

[disciple Clint]

It is when 60%+ of americans support stricter gun control, abortion, gay marriage and other things, and while some young people do. The majority of those opposed to these liberal ideas tend to be the growing older population. The same group that the republicans spent a year trying to kill off with covid.

Funny thing the Older Population keeps getting replenished. Older more mature people who have an abundance of acquired knowledge and wisdom have always tended to be conservative.

 

[FireDragon76]

Is that somehow related to the progressive agenda?

Younger people, by overwhelming margins, tend to favor the sorts of policies you criticize in Biden.

 

[FireDragon76]

Funny thing the Older Population keeps getting replenished. Older more mature people who have an abundance of acquired knowledge and wisdom have always tended to be conservative.

Not happening. While younger people of today may grow wiser, there's no evidence their politics or worldview is changing.

 

[disciple Clint]

Younger people, by overwhelming margins, tend to favor the sorts of policies you criticize in Biden.

Yes because younger people believe the lie that they can get something for nothing, they want all the free things they can get and then later when they find out they are paying higher taxes, things are costing more every year, good paying jobs are hard to find and they have less money in their pocket, they become conservatives.

 

[disciple Clint]

Not happening. While younger people of today may grow wiser, there's no evidence their politics or worldview is changing.

Past trends would indicate that they will.

 

[A2SG]

There are millions who are just now waking up to what the left is all about. the Many and Most are soon to be the few and almost none who accept the ideas of the left. Watch and learn.

Oh, do tell? Don't keep us in suspense, please tell us what the left "is all about".

Cuz....

This:

Yes because younger people believe the lie that they can get something for nothing, they want all the free things they can get and then later when they find out they are paying higher taxes, things are costing more every year, good paying jobs are hard to find and they have less money in their pocket, they become conservatives.

Ain't it.

-- A2SG, can't wait to hear .......

 

[disciple Clint]

Oh, do tell? Don't keep us in suspense, please tell us what the left "is all about".

Cuz....

This:


Ain't it.

-- A2SG, can't wait to hear .......

I believe I am waiting for evidence from you that a former president cannot be charged with a crime, can you provide that or would you like me to provide evidence that you were incorrect on that post?

 

[A2SG]

I believe I am waiting for evidence from you that a former president cannot be charged with a crime, can you provide that or would you like me to provide evidence that you were incorrect on that post?

Did that already. But if you'd care to show me evidence that anything I said was incorrect, I'd be happy to see it.

But, back to the subject at hand: Please tell me what "the left is all about".

-- A2SG, not easily distracted, just so you...ooh, shiny object!