Green New Deal fails Senate test vote as dozens of Democrats vote 'present'

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Inevitable rise? In the months she has been in office, besides being an attention getter what positive movement has she had?

In the first months of being in office being an attention getter is the job description.

The co sponsor of her hallmark bill doesn’t vote for the bill.

It wasn't a bill, it was a non binding resolution, but hey, pesky facts don't really matter here.

However, let me ask a counter question:

Name any freshman congress critter that has ever had anything at all voted on by the Senate at this stage of their career.

Go on. Name one.

The leadership of her own party distancing themselves from her.
Doesn’t sound like a rising star to me.

You do remember Trump's candidacy, right? How the GOP acted during his rise to power?

I really, really do not understand how people can look at what Trump did, the unprecendented way he rose to power, the poor decisions made by his opposition, and then ignore all that history and repeat the same mistakes. Oh well, the lefty head spin as Trump succeeded was agonising for me, at least the rightie one for AOC will be both ironic and entertaining.
 
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Name any freshman congress critter that has ever had anything at all voted on by the Senate at this stage of their career.

None that come off the top of my head.

The co sponsor didn’t even support it.

Maybe that is why it went down in flames.
 
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None that come off the top of my head.

The co sponsor didn’t even support it.

Maybe that is why it went down in flames.

And suppose that it hadn't? What then?
 
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None that come off the top of my head.

That's right. She achieved more in a few months than some do in their entire careers.

The co sponsor didn’t even support it.
Maybe that is why it went down in flames.

Yeah, you keep repeating the mistakes of history and concentrating on the things that don't matter.
 
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Yeah, you keep repeating the mistakes of history and concentrating on the things that don't matter.

Mistakes of history? Yesterday??

Her co sponsor voted AGAINST it. That is not an accomplishment

She has two possible ethics charges - That is not an accomplishment.

Besides running from room to room in the capital with her camera looking for someone on the Senate floor, what exactly is her accomplishments?

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  1. something that has been achieved successfully.
    • the successful achievement of a task.
      "the accomplishment of planned objectives"
 
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Mistakes of history? Yesterday??

Nope, not even close. I see now you have absolutely no understanding of what I am talking about. Not even a little bit. Same result as the last 3 times I tried to explain it. That's me done. I have paint that needs to be watched while it dries.
 
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That's right. She achieved more in a few months than some do in their entire careers.

Now, now... who knows how many of those congressional seats would have floated away into the stratosphere (causing a hazard for air traffic) if those brave men hadn't spent the last couple of decades weighing them down with their posteriors...

The career politician is the unsung hero of the air travel industry, I tell you!
 
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Now, now... who knows how many of those congressional seats would have floated away into the stratosphere (causing a hazard for air traffic) if those brave men hadn't spent the last couple of decades weighing them down with their posteriors...

The career politician is the unsung hero of the air travel industry, I tell you!

And her accomplishments to date are......
 
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However, let me ask a counter question:

Name any freshman congress critter that has ever had anything at all voted on by the Senate at this stage of their career.

Go on. Name one.

Is this what you are looking for?

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Mistakes of history? Yesterday??

Her co sponsor voted AGAINST it. That is not an accomplishment

What has your co sponsor ever voted for?

She has two possible ethics charges - That is not an accomplishment.

And when she is exonerated, she can plan her retribution... it's all the rage in Washington these days.

Besides running from room to room in the capital with her camera looking for someone on the Senate floor, what exactly is her accomplishments?

Here I agree... McConnell hides from everyone; AOC is hardly special in this regard.

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    • the successful achievement of a task.
      "the accomplishment of planned objectives"

She's proven, in a small way, that the American system of government is not yet completely broken... We the People can actually be represented by one of the people, and not the uberrich.
At the age of 29, she's become the GOP'S biggest obsession... unseating Obama, Clinton, and Pelosi.

She's also demonstrated the success of socialized housing by living rent-free in the Right's collective noggin.

And she still has at least a year and a half to go.
 
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The reason that I am critical of AOC is that I feel she actually isn't that well versed on the issues and makes embarrassing comments -- as a 28 year old who is elected to Congress and spent a good part of time in University, right?

On the New Books Network you can hear grad students and young academics from time to time... It sounds as if the person speaking is a 55 year old with 25 years experience being a professor. But they are really just in their late twenties (and occasionally even in their mid-twenties).

I am hyper-critical of academics who don't sound smart... Why wouldn't I be hyper-critical of congressmen who don't sound smart?
 
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Name recognition. (thanks in part to threads like this..)

name recognition, is not an accomplishment.

Especially when it is for saying stupid stuff.

She purposely thrusts herself into the lime light through ignorant statements and grandstanding and since her actions are indefensible, I guess the only defense is:

- they must be scared of her
- they must be sexist
- they must be racist
- why do you keep bringing her up.

My personal opinion. The only thing she has accomplished is feeding her ego and repeatedly making a fool of herself publicly.
 
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