Good reason to be an atheist?(moved from Christian Appologetics)

[Isambard]

Old history tells us some Atheists were called that because they didn't believe in other God's but rather One True God.

No.
The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), which was derogatively applied to anyone thought to believe in false gods, no gods, or doctrines that stood in conflict with established religions. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope.
Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dictionaries tell me you don't care and you don't want to answer a simplisticly stated question not using any methods that might be a trap.

Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[3]
Atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Main Entry:athe·ism Pronunciation: \ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos godDate:1546 1archaic : ungodliness, wickedness2 a: a disbelief in the existence of deity b: the doctrine that there is no deity
atheism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

 

[SuperPhil]

I'm willing to wager that you trust science very much in your everyday life, but evolution makes claims which challenge the belief system you have constructed, and rather than investigate the evidence honestly, you would rather say science is wrong.

Lol,

Science - a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws.

How can say that science is wrong? haha, its like saying knowledge is wrong - it just doesn't make sense!

I thoroughly agree with Darwin's observation of natural selection. That coincides with the bible.

But the soup to human theory is moronic. You have to have a lot of faith in the majority of scientists to think this correct. I'm not here to argue the validity of evolution or creation - I don't care if you think your a monkey. But it is a God-given command to reach out to the lost, show them how much Christ Loves you.

Science and the bible work perfectly together.

Last point, I have not constructed my own belief system - that is what can get people in trouble in science. They assume things, not keeping an open mind, they must always question the validity of their discoveries. I have looked into both sides. It is obvious (in my point of view) that the Lord Jesus created everything!

But in my very small dealings with evolutionists, I can only see them absolutely sure that they are correct. They have NEVER even taken into consideration the possibility of a creator. It baffles me!

I bet these exact arguments were taking place when people thought that the earth was round. So this argument is old and boring.

 

[Rasta]

Science - a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws.

How can say that science is wrong? haha, its like saying knowledge is wrong - it just doesn't make sense!

Ok, it appears we agree.

I thoroughly agree with Darwin's observation of natural selection. That coincides with the bible.

Fine with me. It was WingsOFEagle who said it didn't.

But the soup to human theory is moronic. You have to have a lot of faith in the majority of scientists to think this correct.

Then . . . you come out with crap like this. On what ground do you have to critisize? Is it your knowledge of science? If yes, I'd like to see the papers you have written. Be sure to include any data and or facts that supports your case. If no, then you probably shouldn't critisize experts on the ground of not knowing what you are talking about.

I'm not here to argue the validity of evolution or creation - I don't care if you think your a monkey. But it is a God-given command to reach out to the lost, show them how much Christ Loves you.

Oh, my gosh. Cognotive dissonence at it's best. I don't think I'm a monkey. We are apes, which is a fact. What does Jesus have to do with evolution?

Last point, I have not constructed my own belief system - that is what can get people in trouble in science. They assume things, not keeping an open mind, they must always question the validity of their discoveries. I have looked into both sides. It is obvious (in my point of view) that the Lord Jesus created everything!

I have a very open mind, just not so open that I'm willing to let my brain fall out of my head.

But in my very small dealings with evolutionists, I can only see them absolutely sure that they are correct. They have NEVER even taken into consideration the possibility of a creator. It baffles me!

Do you know why? Evolution has nothing to do with weather or not there is a creator. Math too doesn't factor in the possibility of a creator. Can you guess why? History also doesn't factor in the possibility of a creator. The list goes on.

I bet these exact arguments were taking place when people thought that the earth was round. So this argument is old and boring.

I think you are just not comfortible in investigating and challenging your faith. That is fine. Be honest and say it though. Don't pretend that you are "too intellectual" for such "trivial endevors".

 

[WingsOfEagles07]

Ok, it appears we agree.



Fine with me. It was WingsOFEagle who said it didn't.



Then . . . you come out with crap like this. On what ground do you have to critisize? Is it your knowledge of science? If yes, I'd like to see the papers you have written. Be sure to include any data and or facts that supports your case. If no, then you probably shouldn't critisize experts on the ground of not knowing what you are talking about.



Oh, my gosh. Cognotive dissonence at it's best. I don't think I'm a monkey. We are apes, which is a fact. What does Jesus have to do with evolution?



I have a very open mind, just not so open that I'm willing to let my brain fall out of my head.



Do you know why? Evolution has nothing to do with weather or not there is a creator. Math too doesn't factor in the possibility of a creator. Can you guess why? History also doesn't factor in the possibility of a creator. The list goes on.



I think you are just not comfortible in investigating and challenging your faith. That is fine. Be honest and say it though. Don't pretend that you are "too intellectual" for such "trivial endevors".

1. I was not talking about normal science develop some interpretation skills. I was talking about evolution - science.

Just so you know, He has the right to question the experts because they have been proven wrong.

lol, Apes well you can think you're an ape all you want, haha.

Open mind? No you don't, You do not accept creation nor do you understand it or the Bible.

Math does account for a Creator. God is so smart mathematically and scientifically that he made us from dirt but since He is smarter than our experts then this cannot be possible. Well, you know he is smarter than the "EXPERTS" haha

lol His knowledge of the Bible and Creation surpasses yours by a lot. He also does not act or pretend to intellectual. He is saying what he knows. Just because he is stumping you and your evolutionary belief does not mean that you have the right he is "pretending" to be too intellectual just because you are not.

 

[TerranceL]

Dictionaries tell me you don't care and you don't want to answer a simplisticly stated question not using any methods that might be a trap.

Link me that definition.

 

[TerranceL]

That's neat

No, lying about what other people believe isn't neat.

If only you could...but you aren't going to are you?

Why would I choose to redefine a clearly defined word?

 

[WingsOfEagles07]

I wonder the same thing every time you type. Copy and paste is wonderfull isn't it?

Your being very arbitrary. You do not know that I copy and paste ever time i type. You have no reason to claim such things. I have copied and pasted before yes, but recently I have not copy/paste as you "assume" I have. Just because your intolerance of creation and even your own evolutionary worldview does mean you know everything. You "assume" this and that. You assume things left and right as if your "opinion" is the right opinion. Your ignorance (stated in 2 Peter 3) shows very well of how you do not understand such claims made by creationists. You do not have to make a rescuing device every time you do not have an answer for a claim a creationist makes. Like morality. What is your basis for morality? You do not have a logical rational explanation for such a claim because to do so you would have to be inconsistent with your worldview.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Your ignorance (stated in 2 Peter 3) shows very well of how you do not understand such claims made by creationists.

Good thing I am not alone in this view

 

[PT Calvinist]

Interesting vids...how about this one:

YouTube - Atheist questions Darwinism after hearing Kirk Cameron

 

[PT Calvinist]

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.1

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.1

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.3

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.4

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.5

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.6

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.7

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.8

Just a little of it...I think it's split into 18+ parts

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

YouTube - Rational Response Debate with Kirk Cameron pt.8

This chick is the best "atheists" could come up with?

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Just a little of it...I think it's split into 18+ parts

You have a hostile, rude and mocking atheist team against an evangelical naive group. I didn't like Ray Comfort's reasoning in some, he sounds like he doesn't know his opponent and their arguments. Kelly Hugerack is more concerned about causing offense than sounding authentic in terms of historical data she has no clue about. "1st century Palestine is very well documented", I bet she can't count more than 10 sources.

 

[SuperPhil]

Then . . . you come out with crap like this. On what ground do you have to critisize? Is it your knowledge of science? If yes, I'd like to see the papers you have written. Be sure to include any data and or facts that supports your case. If no, then you probably shouldn't criticize experts on the ground of not knowing what you are talking about.

I would believe the creator of the universe over the interpreters of the universe. You see what I mean? If you believed that Jesus did in fact create the universe, you would be a fool to take the wisdom of men over the wisdom of Christ. For me, Christ has never given me a reason to doubt him!

I have a very open mind, just not so open that I'm willing to let my brain fall out of my head.

Is it possible that we can both be opened minded and come to very different conclusions?

Do you know why? Evolution has nothing to do with weather or not there is a creator.

This is interesting, care to elaborate? If there was a creator, wouldn't evolution be obsolete?

I think you are just not comfortible in investigating and challenging your faith. That is fine. Be honest and say it though. Don't pretend that you are "too intellectual" for such "trivial endevors".

This is very interesting as well. I didn't mean to come across as "too intellectual" because that is NOT my attitude at all. I wouldn't mind at ALL if you questioned the very core of my relationship with Christ. I'm telling you it will be fruitless though, as I have been shaken many times. BUT every single time Christ has pulled through and held on to his promise to me.

I know this might bore you, but I can not talk about anything without an explanation given to me by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

 

[SiderealExalt]

Kirk Cameron=/=credible. The guy is a joke.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDUBfRSf63w
Just a little of it...I think it's split into 18+ parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY6ggGr9BDo&NR=1

Check her out here.

 

[Isambard]

Interesting vids...how about this one:

YouTube - Atheist questions Darwinism after hearing Kirk Cameron

List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cameron is a moron.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Cameron is a moron.

He might be an inexperienced debater, although not anymore than Kelly "Titz" O'Connor, calling him names doesn't help...

 

[WingsOfEagles07]

List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cameron is a moron.

Just because he can show points you cannot answer doesn't give you a right to say he is a moron.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Just because he can show points you cannot answer doesn't give you a right to say he is a moron.

The link is the answer.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Eudaimonist]

This chick is the best "atheists" could come up with?

No, the EAC's High Command was too busy at the time to make a decision, and she volunteered, so...


eudaimonia,

Mark