GoFundMe launched to pay for Trump's border wall, $1M in two days

[Go Braves]

Well Trump has now said he never said he wanted a wall to go along the whole border even though he said just that in public. Has gone from wanting a wall to a fence to slats. Maybe a big beautiful garden trellis will be put up before he leaves office.

 

[essentialsaltes]

This is why I have all but stop debating the issue. I've already won.

What were your winning conditions? You refused to state them before. Previously you said "I guess I would call it a failure if it fails to deliver."

But you wouldn't say how much wall had to be delivered. Or a timeline for completion when we could determine victory or failure. Now you're declaring victory with zero wall delivered.

You did however, state one other losing condition: "The only thing that would be wrong is if the money is misused."

 

[LostMarbels]

Now you're declaring victory with zero wall delivered.

So you tell me. I've heard, but I've also saw.

Many also state there are no investigations ongoing into Benghazi, Uranium one, the Clinton foundation nor Pizzagate either.

And there are no arrests being made.

The President can't even spell his name....

This entire false narrative that President Trump is not accomplishing anything is a shame. Worst thing is people are lying about tangible items/topics that can be seen as they are accomplished. It's only a matter of time before the dam bursts. Way too much has been done to be hidden for much longer. That's why I am just sitting back. Soon enough many people are going to have a holy cow moment, when all this stuff Trump 'didn't achieve' magically appears, seemingly overnight.

What's going to be done? Get funding to tear it down? Act like people aren't getting arrested and that trails aren't ongoing? People can deny all they want, right up to the point that stark reality smacks them in the face. Then they act surprised that they have a bloody lip, and a black eye, even tho they were told to duck.

 

[essentialsaltes]

So you tell me. I've heard, but I've also saw.

What is it that you have seen?

Worst thing is people are lying about tangible items/topics that can be seen as they are accomplished.

Where is Kolfage's wall? If there is evidence of its existence, I'd like to see it.

People can deny all they want, right up to the point that stark reality smacks them in the face.

People can also assert all they want, right up to the point the stark reality disappoint them.

 

[Go Braves]

Well AAR I'm glad these folks have gotten their money back. I suspect a lot of them were living paycheck to paycheck, bought into this false promise. Like how folks spend their last bit of money on lotto tickets or making donations to televangelists.

 

[LostMarbels]

What is it that you have seen?



Where is Kolfage's wall? If there is evidence of its existence, I'd like to see it.



People can also assert all they want, right up to the point the stark reality disappoint them.

Just read the OP. The stated intention from the start was to show implied intent, garner support, create awareness and put Trump's feet to the flames.

Kolfage isn't the president. None of it is his wall. Wasn't even his idea. He is just in support of the idea.

You keep trying to put everything in certain terms so you can get some kind of gotcha moment. The goal is to get a physical barrier built on the southern border. Not to get Kolfage to build it. If you want the win take it. Kolfage might not complete a inch of wall, but I'm still getting a completed wall. We both win... fair trade..

Where does the money go? Regardless of how the wall goes up it is either refunded or used to fund the wall. And either way, if the end result is a barrier on the southern border it was successful.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Just read the OP. The stated intention from the start was to show implied intent, garner support, create awareness and put Trump's feet to the flames.

Which failed. Donald shut down the government, then caved.

You keep trying to put everything in certain terms so you can get some kind of gotcha moment. The goal is to get a physical barrier built on the southern border. Not to get Kolfage to build it. If you want the win take it. Kolfage might not complete a inch of wall, but I'm still getting a completed wall. We both win... fair trade..

What wall?

Where does the money go? Regardless of how the wall goes up it is either refunded or used to fund the wall. And either way, if the end result is a barrier on the southern border it was successful.

Again, what wall?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Where does the money go? Regardless of how the wall goes up it is either refunded or used to fund the wall. And either way, if the end result is a barrier on the southern border it was successful.

There is another option for what happens to the money:

"You did however, state one other losing condition: "The only thing that would be wrong is if the money is misused.""

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Just read the OP. The stated intention from the start was to show implied intent, garner support, create awareness and put Trump's feet to the flames.

Kolfage isn't the president. None of it is his wall. Wasn't even his idea. He is just in support of the idea.

You keep trying to put everything in certain terms so you can get some kind of gotcha moment. The goal is to get a physical barrier built on the southern border. Not to get Kolfage to build it. If you want the win take it. Kolfage might not complete a inch of wall, but I'm still getting a completed wall. We both win... fair trade..

Where does the money go? Regardless of how the wall goes up it is either refunded or used to fund the wall. And either way, if the end result is a barrier on the southern border it was successful.

Seems like you're trying to paint the target around the arrow.

 

[TLK Valentine]

There is another option for what happens to the money:

"You did however, state one other losing condition: "The only thing that would be wrong is if the money is misused.""

Fortunately, gofundme.com has safeguards in place to insure that doesn't happen. Not so sure about Kolfage, however.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

This is almost too pathetic to be hilarious.

Almost.

 

[super animator]

Seems like you're trying to paint the target around the arrow.

We call that Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy.

 

[essentialsaltes]

MAGA all-stars visit border to plot private wall project

"We should be turning dirt on this thing by May 1, June 1 at the latest, according to our experts," [Kolfage] said.

 

[super animator]

MAGA all-stars visit border to plot private wall project

"We should be turning dirt on this thing by May 1, June 1 at the latest, according to our experts," [Kolfage] said.

How deep does this rabbit hole go?

 

[KCfromNC]

MAGA all-stars visit border to plot private wall project

"We should be turning dirt on this thing by May 1, June 1 at the latest, according to our experts," [Kolfage] said.

Did he mention which year?

 

[TLK Valentine]

MAGA all-stars visit border to plot private wall project

"We should be turning dirt on this thing by May 1, June 1 at the latest, according to our experts," [Kolfage] said.

Kolfage has experts?

 

[LostMarbels]

Seems like you're trying to paint the target around the arrow.

That's fine. However you need to grapple with it for it to sink in. The only people that have failed are the ones that attempted to block it. Call it what you want... say what you want. The wall is going up. And there is honestly not a thing that can be done to stop it. Whatever you need to do/say to make yourself feel better, have at it. I honestly hope you can get over the fact that Trump's wall is getting built and you can move on in life.

 

[Go Braves]

I honestly hope folks can get over the fact that Trump's wall is absolutely not going to get built & move on with life.

Trump himself is to blame. The fellow brags about the deals he can make, he shot himself in the foot on making deals. Managed to deal himself down to less than what was on the table before his government shutdown.

 

[Eight Foot Manchild]

That's fine. However you need to grapple with it for it to sink in. The only people that have failed are the ones that attempted to block it. Call it what you want... say what you want. The wall is going up. And there is honestly not a thing that can be done to stop it. Whatever you need to do/say to make yourself feel better, have at it. I honestly hope you can get over the fact that Trump's wall is getting built and you can move on in life.

"Well, I never said the entire wall was going up..."

- You, a year from now, when the 'wall' is a couple hundred yards of abandoned chassis

 

[super animator]

I am pretty sure they are setting up a fence and not a wall.