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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Isaiah 42:13-15 Long have I restrained Myself, I kept silent and held Myself in check, but now I groan like a woman in labor. I will make a great noise and devastate the earth. I will go forth in fury, as a soldier in the heat of battle, I shall burn the trees and pastures and make the holy Land a desolate wasteland. Joel 1:15-18

    Jeremiah 49:2-5 A time is coming says the Lord, when the cities of Jordan will hear the battle cry: Amman will become a desolate mound and all their towns will be burnt to ashes. Do not boast of your strength, for I will bring terror on you from all sides , you will be driven headlong. Amos 1:13-15, Ezekiel 21:28-32

    Jeremiah 49:17-18 The lands of Edom/Esau will become burnt and desolate, a destruction like that of Sodom will strike them. Isaiah 25:1-3, Amos 1:11-12

    Jeremiah 49:23-27 In Syria, they have heard of the coming disaster, they run about in terror, pains like childbirth grip them. A fire will devour their cities and their military men will lie still in death on that Day. Amos 1:3-5
    Isaiah 17:1 Damascus will cease to be a city, she will be reduced to a heap of ruins, forever desolated....

    Jeremiah 49:34-37 I shall break the bow of Elam [Iran], I shall destroy the chief weapon of their might. I will scatter them to the four winds, My fierce anger and fiery wrath will make an end of them. Ezekiel 32:24-25

    None of these plainly stated prophesies have happened yet. They will be literally fulfilled by:

    Isaiah 13:6-8 Wail: for the Day of the Lord is at hand, a great devastation from the Almighty! Because of it, every hand will hang limp, courage will melt away. Fear and terror will come on people, agonizing pangs will grip them, like a woman in labour. Jeremiah 6:24, Ezekiel 7:17

    Isaiah 30:30 Then the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty, His arm will descend in His fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid cloudbursts and storm winds. Isaiah 30:26a tells us exactly what the Lord will use.

    Jeremiah 9:22 Corpses will fall and lie like dung in the fields, no one will gather them.

    Isaiah 37:26 Have you not heard? Long ago I planned it and now I bring it about. Your great cities have crashed into heaps of rubble.

    For now; the best advice is:

    Hebrews 10:25-27 Keep up your fellowship and encourage one another, as we see the Day of the Lord drawing near. For if we deliberately persist in sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, then there can be no further atonement and there remains only a terrifying expectation of the fierce fire that will consume God’s enemies.
    Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

    Surely, we CAN see that the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath against the nations is drawing near. His Judgement/punishment by fire; Psalms 11:4-6

    Is there any other possible and workable solution between Israel and the Islamic peoples? Populations keep increasing; resources keep diminishing, humans cannot resolve this situation, we need God to do it.

    Look forward to the Day of the Lord’s wrath and pray to hasten it on.... 2 Peter 3:12
     
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  2. R. Hartono

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    Gabriel said the end shall be with the flood
     
  3. Alpha.Omega

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    have not most of these prophecies already been fulfilled?
     
  4. shilohsfoal

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  5. keras

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    God promised to never again flood the world with water. Genesis 9:15-16
    But many prophesies tell us that when the world is again as in the days of Noah, Matthew 24:37-40, then He will send fire to correct the situation. Isaiah 66:15-17
    No. There may have been a partial fulfilment of some, but from the Biblical and historical record; they are all yet to happen.
    The prophesies of Daniel 11:21-45 will take place after the Anti- Christ has come to power. What I post in the OP is the next prophesied event, the one that will cause the nations to form a One World Govt, that the AC will soon take over.
     
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    There is no such thing as a one world goverment.The reason there are wars and rumors of wars is because there are more than one goverment.

    Daniel 11 is proof there are more than one goverment.These kingdoms have four wars in this chapter alone and at the time of the end,they are still two separate govetments.Proof the one world goverment is a fairy tale.

    Daniel 11:40 "At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.
     
  7. keras

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    Sure, that is the situation at present.
    You fail to see or understand Daniel 7:23-25, which states there will be a kingdom that will devour the whole earth.
    However, the faithful people of God initially won't be a part of it, as shown by how the AC attacks and conquers them, as Daniel 11:31 and Zechariah 14:1-2 tell us.

    Why don't you address the clear and unambiguous prophesies that I presented in the OP? As I prove they are the next event; the Sixth Seal worldwide devastation and the virtual depopulation of the Middle East.
     
  8. shilohsfoal

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    The king if the north does not conquer Israel.Israel ha 200 nuclear warheads at it disposal.The king of thenorth does not defeat Israel.He enters israel without a single shot fired.There is no conquering here In this verse.

    Daniel 11:31 "His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.


    You just don't understand the relationship the king of the north has with the Israeli goverment.


    As for the op and the day of the Lord.I agree.The middle east (beast)will be destroyed.The promised land shall be given to the saints of God.
    But thats not the next event in prophecy.
     
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  9. keras

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    Isaiah 17:1 Damascus will cease to be a city, she will be reduced to a heap of ruins forever desolate. Animals will live there, undisturbed.

    Jeremiah 49:23-27 Of Damascus: The Syrians are covered in confusion, for they have heard news of a coming disaster, they run around in fear and trembling and panic grips them. No more joyful songs or celebrations are heard in her streets, because on that Day her young men will fall and soldiers will lie still in death. The Lord says; I will kindle a fire inside Damascus and it will devour her strongholds.

    Amos 1:3-4 For crime after crime of Damascus, I will give them no reprieve because they oppressed My Land with malicious spite. Therefore I will send fire to consume her strongholds.

    Zechariah 9:1-2 The Word of the Lord comes to the lands north of Israel and it will soon come upon Damascus. For to the Lord belongs all of that area and even though the cities of Lebanon have become rich, He will strip them of all their possessions and break their power. A devastating fire will devour them all.
    Ref: REB. Some verses condensed and paraphrased.



    These prophecies tell of the soon to happen destruction of Damascus, Syria. Note that in all cases, they go on to talk of other nations who are also affected by this fire judgement. Isaiah 66:16 In particular Isaiah 17:4-6 says how Jacob, that is: the 10 tribes of Israel- now the Western nations and the 2 tribes of Judah now the current State of Israel, will lose their strength. It seems that most of the world’s military forces will be destroyed. Isaiah 34:2-3, Hosea 2:18, Micah 5:10-11
    Although the Sixth Seal, the next prophesied event to happen according to the sequence in Revelation, does not mention fire as the means of punishment, [there is nothing in Revelation 6:12-17 to say how it will be carried out] we can ascertain the details from parallel passages like: Isaiah 34:2-4, Isaiah 2:12-21, Joel 2:1-11, Malachi 4:1 and especially 2 Peter 3:7 & 10.


    Notice in Jeremiah 49:23, how everyone knows what is coming. This can be explained by the 24 hour period between the initial flash of a Coronal Mass Ejection sunstrike and the arrival of the main mass of superheated plasma. Ezekiel 7:10-19
    That it will be a single Day of destruction is confirmed by the use in every case of the Hebrew and Greek words for a 24 hour period and this fits how a CME will hit the earth and then continue on into outer space. Isaiah 63:4, Joel 1:15
     
  10. shilohsfoal

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    There's nothing in the entire bible about a CME.But there is plenty about the war that devastates the middle east in scripture.
    Let it be known though.That land shall recover from war.Not a CME.

    Ezekiel 38:8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war,whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.
     
  11. shilohsfoal

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    The war that devastates the middle east is said to start in armegeddon Israel.
    Revelation 16:16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
    The combatants of this war is said to be the beast,the dragon and the false prophet.
    Revelation 16:13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    A major sign leading up to this war is the euphrates river drying up.The river who flows through Turkey ,Syria,Iraq,and ends with Iran.Preparing the way for the kings of the east to Armegeddon.
    Revelation 16:12 The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.
    Those of you who have studied Islam would understand the three year drought preceding this venture to be a great sign to Muslims to march to Armegedon to destroy Israel .

    Keep in mind.The kingof the north has military base in Israel,even today.
    Perspective | No one can stop President Trump from using nuclear weapons. That's by design.
     
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  12. keras

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    In a better translation Ezekiel 38:8 says:....in a land restored from ruin.....REB

    Re the Lord's use of an explosion on the suns surface; this is well attested.
    There is no other explanation for prophesies like Isaiah 30:26a, Psalms 50:1-3, Malachi 4:1 & 3, Psalms 11:4-6, 2 Peter 3:7, + And the cosmic and earthly effects can only be literally fulfilled by a CME.

    I do not see 'plenty about a war', the prophesies all say things like; the Lord will send fire, His wrath will devastate the earth and in Ezekiel 7:14 ...the turmoil of the nations calls forth My wrath.

    This next prophesied event is God's Judgement and punishment of the nations, a similar reset of civilization as what happened in Noah's time. This time by fire.
    Your denial of these truths, just leaves you in the dark, about God's plans.
     
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    No.I see plenty about war.Even the verse you rejected.I've even showed you where it says te destruction of Egypt comes from the north which you also reject.
    Fact is ,armegeddon is a war and the time of the end and te Lords coming is during war.

    Daniel 11:44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.

    6000 nuclear warheads at this mans command.

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    The next prophetic event I know of is Trumps decision to place the military in the west bank and Jerusalem.
    But you don't know anything about that.
     
  14. keras

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    There are many descriptions in the prophesies of a sudden and devastating worldwide Day of fire and earthquakes, most are either ignored or allegorized because people cannot see any literal fulfilment. The biggest difficulty that most have, is realizing the difference between the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath and the Return of Jesus in His glory.

    Isaiah 13:9-13 The Day of the Lord is coming, that cruel Day of wrath and fierce anger, to reduce the earth to desolation and to destroy the wicked there. The sun, moon and stars will give no light. Humans will become scarce, as rare as fine gold and the earth will quake at the wrath of God on the Day of His blazing anger.

    This and many other prophesies cannot be reconciled with the glorious Return of Jesus, when ‘every eye will see Him’. It is clearly stated that on the Day of wrath, He will not be seen. Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4, Psalms 11:4-6, +

    We are told in Revelation 6:17, that the Sixth Seal judgement is the Day of the Lord’s wrath and then the Seventh Seal is an ‘about a 20 year’ time gap when the world recovers, enabling righteous Israel, that is; every faithful Christian, from every race, nation and language, Revelation 5:9-10, to return to the holy Land and the rise of a One World government. Then, after most of the rest of the prophesies are fulfilled, Jesus will Return and commence His Millennial reign.
     
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    Isaiah 13:17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes, who do not care for silver and have no delight in gold.

    Isaiah 13:18 Their bows will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants, nor will they look with compassion on children.

    Isaiah 13:19 Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms, the pride and glory of the Babylonians, will be overthrown by God like Sodom and Gomorrah.


    The scripture you take out of context to prove your point states the Medes(Iran) destroy Babylon.The chapter is about a war.
     
  16. keras

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    It is plain for anyone to see, that Isaiah 13:17-21 is about ancient Babylon and is a fulfilled prophecy.
    But Isaiah 13:1-16 plainly awaits fulfilment in the end times. The earth has not yet been shaken to its foundations..... Hebrews 12:26

    It seems that you don't want to do as 2 Peter 3:12 asks us: Look forward to the coming of the great Day of the Lord and pray to hasten it on.......
     
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    As I said. You take scripture out of context.You cant understand it ,then you take it completely out of context to try to prove your point.
    No,the following,verses hasn't been fulfilled.

    Isaiah 13:17 See, I will stir up against them the Medes, who do not care for silver and have no delight in gold.

    Isaiah 13:18 Their bows will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants, nor will they look with compassion on children.

    Isaiah 13:19 Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms, the pride and glory of the Babylonians, will be overthrown by God like Sodom and Gomorrah.


    The Medes never destroyed ancient Babylon. The medes didnt destroy the young men or the children.In fact,the Medes freed all the nations that were taken captive.You must not like history.
     
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    Actually evolution seems to be able to do just fine. There have been at least 6 extinction followed by explosions where the earth is repopulated.
     
  19. keras

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    Your info says; Christian, but you believe in Evolution?
    Myself, I believe that God Created everything and He instigated a catastrophic flood, circa 2500 BC. His Creation is once again 'as in the days of Noah' and we are told in the only Book we have that was inspired by our Creator, that the next time He will use fire from the sun to again reset human civilization.
    If this doesn't meet with your approval, then maybe you need to change your belief.
     
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