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God's Name is I Am What I Am

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by DreamerOfTheHeart, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. DreamerOfTheHeart

    DreamerOfTheHeart I Am What I Am

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    That is God's true Name, given to Moses.

    A Name his forefathers did not know him by.

    Moses was God incarnate, but did not know it. Jesus was the Son of God Incarnate, I Am What I Am.

    Jesus said he is in the Father, but is also the Son. Exactly like Jesus is Moses.

    Moses did not know he was God in the flesh.

    The name of Jesus means "God saves". And, that is the Banner of Jesus.

    Do not say, I Am What I Am in vain.

    And, do not mock God.
     
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  2. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    Keep studying the bible. I don't see the same thing you see, but that's OK I suppose :) Cheers. You should study the Trinity:Trinity - Wikipedia
     
  3. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    I can't decide if this is serious or trolling.
     
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  4. devin553344

    devin553344 Enlighten our lives dear Lord

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    I'm taking him seriously. I think he's just been misguided somehow :(
     
  5. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Nope.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  6. topher694

    topher694 Go Turtle!

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    He keeps starting odd threads then doesn't respond to them, that's troll-ish. But to be fair trolls are misguided, so either way you are right. :tearsofjoy:
     
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    And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

    Exodus 3:13-15

    “I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam.”

    Popeye the sailor-man

    Don't confuse the two! :)
     
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  8. ilovejcsog

    ilovejcsog The way....

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    LOL
     
  9. Paidiske

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  10. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    Another translation makes it " I AM WHO I WILL BE" but under no circumstance and in no translation I know of is the word "what" in there. So you are absolutely correct in pointing out that Popeye is not God. Though Olive Oyl bears a striking resemblance to a certain freshman congressperson from New York.
     
  11. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Olive Oyl, that is tacky, accurate, but tacky. אהיה אשׁר אהיה/ehyeh 'sher ehyeh can also be translated "I will be who I will be."
     
  12. tz620q

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    When I first heard that translation of the YHWH tetragrammaton, which had no precedent in Hebrew to use as a translation guide, I realized how much more accurate it is than the passive tense translation. It conveys, not a past Creator that has stopped creating; but an active Creator that is continually bringing His kingdom into being.
     
  13. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    "God Incarnate" bowed down to the Egyptian "gods?"
    "God Incarnate" committed murder?
    "God Incarnate" was afraid to speak to Pharaoh?
    "God Incarnate" refused to circumcise his own sons?

    I don't think so.
     
  14. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Indeed.

    Actually, it has no time reference, so "I am who I was," "I am who I am," and "I am who I will be," are all accurate.
     
  15. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    And perhaps all of them combined are as accurate as we can get?
     
  16. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Maybe. Since God natively exists outside of time, (He created time) it is probably as close as we can come to comprehending it.
     
  17. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    I like the I Am Who I Will Be translation mainly because it seems to show intent upon God's part rather than just standing on who He is, He is saying He is Who He is by his design and no others. He seems to me to be making the statement that He is who He desires to be unlike every other being that is constrained by limits imposed from outside His nature is a decision not something He was created with. He has no limits and therefore will be Who He will be or will be whatever He decides to be.
     
  18. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Lots of speculation in this thread. I decided to ask the Jews.
    Jewish Encyclopedia-Names of God
    In appearance, Yhwh (יהוה) is the third person singular imperfect "kal" of the verb ( הוה ("to be"), meaning, therefore, "He is," or "He will be," or, perhaps, "He lives," the root idea of the word being, probably, "to blow," "to breathe," and hence, "to live." With this explanation agrees the meaning of the name given in Ex. iii. 14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person—"I am" (אהיה, from

    ( היה, the later equivalent of the archaic stem ( הוה). The meaning would, therefore, be "He who is self-existing, self-sufficient," or, more concretely, "He who lives," the abstract conception of pure existence being foreign to Hebrew thought. There is no doubt that the idea of life was intimately connected with the name Yhwh from early times. He is the living God, as contrasted with the lifeless gods of the heathen, and He is the source and author of life (comp. I Kings xviii.; Isa. xli. 26-29, xliv. 6-20; Jer. x. 10, 14; Gen. ii. 7; etc.). So familiar is this conception of God to the Hebrew mind that it appears in the common formula of an oath, "hai Yhwh" ( חי־יהוה = "as Yhwh lives"; Ruth iii. 13; I Sam. xiv. 45; etc.).
    If the explanation of the form above given be the true one, the original pronunciation must have been Yahweh ((יהוה) or Yahaweh (יהוה). From this the contracted form Jah or Yah (יה ) is most readily explained, and also the forms Jeho or Yeho (יהו ), and Jo or Yo (יו contracted from יהו , which the word assumes in combination in the first part of compound proper names, and Yahu or Yah (יהו ) in the second part of such names. The fact may also be mentioned that in Samaritan poetry יהוה rhymes with words similar in ending to Yahweh, and Theodoret ("Quæst. 15 in Exodum") states that the Samaritans pronounced the name Iαβέ. Epiphanius ascribes the same pronunciation to an early Christian sect. Clement of Alexandria, still more exactly, pronounces 'Iαουέ or 'Iαουαί, and Origen, 'Iα. Aquila wrote the name in archaic Hebrew letters. In the Jewish-Egyptian magic-papyri it appears as Ιαωουηε. At least as early as the third century B.C. the name seems to have been regarded by the Jews as a "nomen ineffabile," on the basis of a somewhat extreme interpretation of Ex. xx. 7 and Lev. xxiv. 11 (see Philo, "De Vita Mosis," iii. 519, 529). Written only in consonants, the true pronunciation was forgotten by them. The Septuagint, and after it the New Testament, invariably render κύριος ("the Lord").
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  19. Howard Beale

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    Dear Der Alter,

    Thank you for taking the time to research and then provide us with this most helpful post.

    Because of your post I am starting a thread on the name of G-d given to Moses in Exodus 3:14

    With love,
    Howard
     
  20. Der Alter

    Der Alter This is me about 1 yr. old. Supporter

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    Please be sure to read the complete article at the Jewish Encyclopedia link I provided, above. The article has much more relevant information.
     
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