I do not set aside the grace of God, for if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law Christ died for nothing
Gal2:21
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I do not set aside the grace of God, for if RIGHTEOUSNESS comes through the law Christ died for nothing
Gal2:21
Was murder sin before the law?Violation of the law us sin
If we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us
1john1:8
You seem to think the law given to Israel is placed in the heart contrary to Scripture.The penalty for transgressing the law us removed from Christians. Hence:
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more.
The penalty is removed because the law God desires you follow us written in your mind and placed in your heart. With NO attached penalty for transgression
Which law is placed there?
Through the law we become conscious of sin rom3:20
Would Christians be conscious they sinned if they committed adultery, stole, bore false witness, coveted?
So you resort to intimidation and manipulation.On the internet, people will argue the unarguable, rather than admit to error.
The flesh is a damnable thing
LoveGodsWord said: If you can't show them then for the claims you make then why do you not believe God's Word? As for me I must follow the Word of God because I love Jesus. Do you love Jesus Bob? Bob S, reply: I am sure you do love Jesus, why would you wonder if I love Him? Is it because I refuse to keep a day that ended at Calvary, a day that was dedicated to only one nation and has no bearing on my salvation, a day that was conjured up by a few unknowing people and exploited by a false prophet? Oy!
LoveGodsWord said: Spoken by God himself to His people and held separate from the ceremonial laws of Moses because they were the work of God himself.
Bob S, reply: Obviously you are not saavy concerning the book of the law. All the commands in the book were not ceremonial. In fact the commands to love God and the command to love neighbors are not found in what you refer as God's word. They are found in what you refer to as the ceremonial laws. Another fact is that is s the SDA church that divides the 10 from the remainder of the Law. Israelites never did and God never told them to divide them All were considered as equal in providing guidance to Israel
LoveGodsWord said: Where are your scriptures?
Bob S, reply: God's Word we find that the 10 commandments became non binding because they were temporary laws. They were temporary because they ended along with the remainder of Torah at Calvary. 2Cor3:7-11, Gal 3:19 You know the verses you will not comment on nor recognize as part of scripture.
LoveGodsWord said: Really? So according you God's Law (the 10 commandments) are the work of man when God's Word says God made them without man?
Bob S, reply: You have committed Bob's mortal sin by trying to instill a thought that in no way did I write. Why would you go to such a extent? You who is part of an organization that brags that they keep the 10 commandments of which one is thou shalt not lie.
This was in spite of the scriptures that say…That is an absolute untruth LGW. I do not trust your posts and this statement is absurd. All of Torah was the work of God.
I didn't say that you brag, I said you are part of an organization that brags. The way you write indicates that the remainder of the law was inferior to the 10 and are not the "work" of God. Go back and critique yourself brother. You might just surprise yourself.Now, now, Bob, are you being honest now? When have you heard me brag about anything? Your accusations mean nothing to me because you are not honest. My comments above were from post 224 where you accused me of lying when I said that God’s Law (10 commandments) were different to the ceremonial laws of Moses.
That fact does not matter to Christians who follow the new covenant written by the ambassadors of Jesus.(1) God’s Law (10 commandments) is the work of God alone written with His own finger on two tables of stone, spoken by God himself to His people and placed alone in the Ark of the Covenant. (Exodus 32:16; 31:18; Exodus 20:1-17; Deuteronomy 10:5) Breaking God’s Law is sin (Isaiah 24:4; 1 John 3:4; James 2:8-12; Romans 3:20; 7:17; Eze 18:20; Romans 6:23)
That is not the truth and you of all people should know it is not. All of the law was the work of God. Moses part was to dictate what God told him to write. It would have taken a mack truck to have carried all the stones it would have taken to write all of the Torah on stones. God didn't even include the great command to love Him and to love their fellow man on the stones, but He did in the book.(2) The ceremonial laws of Moses were the work of Moses inspired by God which Moses wrote in a book (Torah, “Pentateuch” The ceremonial/civil laws and ordinances; the first 5 books of the bible; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy). The laws of Moses were spoken by Moses and were separate from God’s Law (10 commandments) and placed beside the Ark of the Covenant
I said all the law is from God. There is no scripture indicating that one part is more important than another. It is you that is making that connotation. The 10 commandments and the remainder of the law were written in the book. Israel lost the ark, but had the scrolls for what is now scripture. Jews have never separated Torah into two parts or more like you are trying to do to try to prove your false theory.Now where are your scriptures saying that God’s 10 commandments and the ceremonial laws of Moses are the same? If you cannot show me your scriptures, why do you accuse me of lying and why do you not believe God’s Word?
I didn't say that you brag, I said you are part of an organization that brags. The way you write indicates that the remainder of the law was inferior to the 10 and are not the "work" of God. Go back and critique yourself brother. You might just surprise yourself.That fact does not matter to Christians who follow the new covenant written by the ambassadors of Jesus. That is not the truth and you of all people should know it is not. All of the law was the work of God. Moses part was to dictate what God told him to write. It would have taken a mack truck to have carried all the stones it would have taken to write all of the Torah on stones. God didn't even include the great command to love Him and to love their fellow man on the stones, but He did in the book. I said all the law is from God. There is no scripture indicating that one part is more important than another. It is you that is making that connotation. The 10 commandments and the remainder of the law were written in the book. Israel lost the ark, but had the scrolls for what is now scripture. Jews have never separated Torah into two parts or more like you are trying to do to try to prove your false theory. By the way, I have never received an apology, all I get when I call you out is a ditto and some worthless excuses. And another thing of which to remind you , the old covenant was not ever about salvation it was to be the laws that governed Israel while in the desert and in the land of Canaan. Yet you and your church make Sabbath a salvational issue. EX19:5-6 It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." {6T 356.4} Ellen White