I did not say you were wrong. I said your statemen "The Father told Jesus to say---" was textually inaccurate., not theologically inaccurate. The Scripture does not mean that God's love for the believer is conditional on obedience of the believer. As I explained (and all you did in response was repeat your claim) your interpretation confuses evidence of love with cause of love. And it does not take into account that Jesus is speaking of:
Why are you equating discipline with God removing his love?
Acts 13: 33 Hebrews 5:8 Jesus, born of the Holy Spirit, was not begotten of God until after He learned obedience from the things He suffered. That is a picture of those He adopts. John 1: 12 we have the right to become a child of God when we believe, and we are born from above. Romans 8:23 we are not adopted by God until we are resurrected. 1Thessalonians 5:23 that is why our entire being must remain sinless. If at the resurrection our flesh is sinful then God does not adopt us. We will not be legitimate children. If one does not love Jesus, they will have a carnal mind and not submit to discipline. Why would they give up what they love for something they love less. People who stop short of the adoption process have a distorted picture of becoming a child of God.
Once we prove that we have a spiritual mind we prove that we will be disciplined. At that point we have reached eternal life.
As it states in Hebrews, we are not legitimate until we are disciplined.
Red herring. What does either of those things have to do with your claim that if the believer, is not obedient God will not love him?
Have you ever heard of a legitimate child becoming illegitimate? Try and make sense.
Explained above.
And then he tells them that deliberately sinning after receiving the knowledge of truth, would be tantamount to trampling on the the blood that saved them. "So don't do it," he warns. "Grow up."
John 16:8-11 the only way we can deliberately sin is to stop believing in Jesus. While we are in Jesus God says we are dead and dead men are not subject to the law. That is why the only 2 commandments that apply to us are the 2 in 1John 3:22-24.
Where does he say that? I want the explicit words from Scripture.
Romans 5:15-16 salvation is a free gift, that means all we do is believe in Jesus. If we needed to do a work, it would be credited to us as payment. We are saved to do good works. That means we only need to do works after we reach eternal life. Acts 11:18 that is also why God only granted repentance to life. If He granted repentance eternally, He could not hold us accountable to do any work.
Where does it say if we will die if we if we do not follow Jesus' voice? Romans 8: 4 the law of sin and death is fulfilled in those who walk in the Spirit.
Romans 8:10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you. NKJV
According to Galatians 1:1 the Father raised Jesus from the dead. If the Father is in us, He gives live to our mortal bodies. If those who have been a spiritual mind start to not show their love by walking in the Spirit, the Father will take steps to remedy that situation.
Romans 8:10-11
10 And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
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Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. NKJV
God will put us under the law of sin and death. He will deem that we are in sin and we will die.
Did you not notice that that portion of the same set of scriptures is giving an agricultural example of what he is about to say about himself and his sheep? This not being an agricultural society any more, you may not know that Jesus used that example because it was a reality. In the evenings the shepherds brought their flocks into a pen to keep them safe during the night when wild animals were prowlig about. All the flocks were mingled together in the pen. This was not a problem because a sheep knows the voice of its shepherd and will only follow that voice when they are led out to pasture in the morning. So with that bit of trivia under your belt, what does Jesus say about himself as the shepherd of a flock?
10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
24So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me,a is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”
Now, who is it that will follow Jesus' voice?
So according to you only the sheep in other fold sheep have to be in an agricultural society to follow His voice?
John 10:16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd. NKJV
I know that I follow His voice as I have put to death some sins of the body through the Spirit.
I am very tempted to show you the same respect as you have shown me. However, anything I do to another Christian I will be doing to Jesus.
