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God Made The World In Seven Days

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by praisethelordjesus, Mar 7, 2014.

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  1. Mr Strawberry

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    One doesn't doubt that a generous helping of spirits are involved in giving you your perspective.
     
  2. lesliedellow

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    You mean like Tim Keller? Not exactly known for being a liberal.
     
  3. Dizredux

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    Here is the post you responded to:

    Originally Posted by praisethelordjesus [​IMG]
    My response:
    Do you have the idea that Christians only have one view of Genesis?

    Dizredux
     
  4. Aman777

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    Dear Stan, It really looks bad when you ALSO don't respond to people who are being nice to you. It makes it look like you are running and hiding from debate. IF so, then what are you doing here and will you hide from my nice post AGAIN? This is the 3rd time, I have posted it.

    Stan...Oh Stan...Did you miss #247 Stan?
    Originally Posted by Aman777 [​IMG]
    Originally Posted by Aman777 [​IMG]
    The first 34 verses of Genesis tells us the complete HISTORY of God's Creation, written BEFORE the events of the present 6th Creative Day have been fulfilled. All of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to the events of God's 7 Days. You should know this because then you will be able to see that Genesis agrees in EVERY way with EVERY Truth which has been discovered by Science and History. It's PROOF of God. God Bless you.

    Dear Stan, No. Genesis 1:1 tells of the creation of the ingredients, heaven (air) and earth (ground) which God created and brought forth from things which do not appear. Jesus, (the Light of the first Day) will take these ingredients and shape them into everything which exists physically.

    No. Gen 1:1-2:3 tells us the complete HISTORY of God's Creation of the perfect heaven, the THIRD heaven. ONLY God could do this since He tells us the entire History of His Creation BEFORE the events happen.

    No. At Gen 2:4 we are taken BACK to the events of the 3rd Day and it is revealed that man was made from the dust of the ground on this THIRD Day, the SAME Day as the Big Bang of our Universe. Adam's formation physically is told, but NOT his Creation Spiritually since that does NOT happen until the 6th Day. Gen 1:27 AND Gen 5:1-2

    No. Gen 3:1 continues to detail the events of the present 6th Creative Day, the Day of Salvation. God begins with the Lies of Satan which continue today. Satan casts doubt on God's Holy Word by saying "yea hath God said?"

    No. God is STILL creating Adam (Heb-Mankind) in His Image or in Christ, since Christ IS the Image of the Invisible God. Col 1:15 Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of the events which will take place AFTER Jesus returns to rule and reign on the present Earth, as Isaiah 11 reveals.

    No. It is what God will do AFTER His work is "finished" or brought to perfection, and ALL of the host of Heaven is safely in Heaven. Gen 2:1 IF God had already rested from ALL of His work BEFORE His Creation was made perfect, no one could be "created in God's Image" or in Christ, for God would have already CEASED from ALL His work of Creating.

    Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

    Amen, but that is WHERE blind FAITH ends. Once we are created anew with the Faith that God gives us to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures, it is NO longer necessary to accept the Bible by blind Faith. We are then to STUDY to show ourselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth NOT to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth, which IS the Bible. 2Ti 2:15

    Science is NOT trying to convince us of a Lie, and that is what is wrong with the traditional religious view. When you eliminate the prejudice against the Truth which Science and History shows, you will find that Genesis agrees in EVERY way with EVERY discovery of man, EXCEPT the False Theory of Evolution.

    Micro Evolution, or changes within His (Jesus) kinds, is True but the Satanic Lie IS that Humans evolved from Apes. Genesis 2:4-7 shows that Adam was formed on the 3rd Day BEFORE the Stars which were not formed until the 4th Day. Genesis 1:16. It's proof of God since this Truth that Stars did not appear until Hundreds of years AFTER the Big Bang, was NOT discovered until recently. ONLY God could have known this Scientific FACT 3k years ago. God's Truth in Genesis REFUTES the Lie of the ToE being forced upon our children in the public schools of the United States, today.

    I know the traditional religious story and I realize that what I post is strange to Christians, BUT, when you read Genesis for what it actually says, instead of what ancient men THOUGHT it said, you should be able to see that God's Truth, in Genesis, agrees in every way with the discoveries of science and history.

    I do not mean to disagree with you, since you are simply relating the views of ancient men, which cannot be shown Scripturally. My intent is to edify the Church and let my brethren see that God wrote Genesis and got EVERY scientific Truth absolutely perfect. It's PROOF that God is the Author of the Bible. God bless you and best wishes for your future.

    In Love,
    Aman
     
  5. Subduction Zone

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    Let's not forget, though I tweaked Stan's nose just the tiniest bit and he got all bent out of shape he forgot that he had just insulted someone himself with a similar answer. It seems that Stan can dish it out but not take it. Worse yet Stan was obviously wrong in his post where he made a dig at Seipai. That was why I made the dig at him in the first place.

    I would be interested to see exactly what mod training consists of. And once again I ask the obvious, why no atheist moderators? They could give the panel of moderators the balance that they need.
     
  6. Sojourner1

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    Please read the guidelines of this forum before making any further posts in this thread. The comments in this thread are getting a bit too personal, lots of flaming and goading of other members going on. Remember to keep the conversation civil, show each other respect, and refrain from making condescending remarks toward other members.


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  7. Subduction Zone

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    Fine, back on topic.

    Let/s discuss the evidence that shows whether the Earth is old and life has evolved or not.

    Geologic evidence: The dates of meteorites, which are roughly 4.5 billion years old. That is also confirmed by the rotation of asteroids.

    The various strata show that they have been deposited over hundreds of millions of years. Well sorted sandstones are not deposited by floods. Well sorted shales are definitely not deposited by floods. Coral atolls that form many layers of limestone only grow at millimeters per millennium. When the age needed to deposit the layers of sedimentary rock are added up we get hundreds of millions of years. Even small things show an age greater than Ussher's 6,000 years. the ice caps, tree rings, I am sure the list goes on.

    I doubt if there is any claim for a young Earth that has not been debunked yet.

    And that was only geology. In biology evolution of course debunks a young Earth. The lack of population bottlenecks shows that the populations of almost all species has been large and stable for many thousands of years.

    I would like to see the OP come up with something, with anything, scientific that supports his claim.
     
  8. lesliedellow

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    You don't seriously think they are interested in evidence do you? I paraphrase a caricature I heard from a priest some time back. He depicted a creationist's stance as:

    "I have this document here, and it assures me that the Earth was created in six days. Therefore any evidence, so called, which appears to contradict it, must be false."
     
  9. Aman777

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    Dear SZ, The world is old and Scripture confirms this since the LORD brought the animals, made from the ground, to Adam who named them at the beginning of the present 6th Day. Gen 2:19

    The reason that young earthers THINK the earth is only 6k years old is because they follow the Theology of ancient men, instead of trying to actually understand what Genesis is teaching. It's also WHY they avoid replying to Scripture which shows this. It goes against their religion.

    In Love,
    Aman
     
  10. SMA12

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    If the Sun and the Moon weren't even created until "Day" #4, then is really resonable to believe these were literal 24 hour days?
     
  11. stan1953

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    In fact the universe was created on day one. What God did in day four was allow the light itself to pierce the water canopy He created in day two by separating the waters from the waters.
     
  12. Aman777

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    Dear SMA12, It's because the first 3 Days or Ages is showing the formation of Adam's world, which was totally destroyed in the Flood. Isa 24:19 The last 3 Days are speaking of the present world which began on the 3rd Day with the Big
    Bang. Gen 2:4

    Adam's world was Flat and did NOT have a Sun, Moon, nor Stars, and it was lighted by Jesus since He is Brighter than the Noonday Sun. Act 22:6 He also provides the Light for New Jerusalem in the 3rd Heaven, which has NO Sun nor Moon. Rev 21:23 It's all a misunderstanding of ancient men's flawed views of what Genesis is actually teaching. God Bless you.

    In Love,
    Aman
     
  13. HitchSlap

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    How did he keep the light from piercing the water canopy?
     
  14. Subduction Zone

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    You do realize that that description is what would be expected from an uneducated (please note uneducated is not the same as stupid in any way at all) person who was trying to explain how the world was made that did not know how vast and empty the universe is?

    Again, what scientific evidence do you have that supports your beliefs?
     
  15. lesliedellow

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    Am I dreaming, or did somebody just say there is a heavenly sea just above our heads?

    I suppose the apollo astronauts must have gone for a swim, rather than to the moon.
     
  16. Queller

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    My beef is that they lied about what the quote actually said. If you don't have a problem with them lying about what Gould said then I guess there is no point in discussing with you how they took the quote out of context as well.
     
  17. Queller

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    No it is not comparing apples to oranges. You said Adam didn't have scars. There is no conceivable reason why the earth should have any scars older than 6,000 years either and yet it does.

    Ah, the "god works in mysterious ways" dodge. If you didn't want to discuss this, just say so.
     
  18. Queller

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    Why? BTW, lots of schools do have comparitive religion classes. What's the problem?

    So no theory of gravity, no atomic theory, no germ theory?
     
  19. Queller

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    no, in fact, it didn't. I asked which religions you want taught in science class. You didn't answer that question at all.

    But let's expand on your idea of a religion program. Which religions should be taught in schools?
     
  20. Queller

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    Yes. In science, the word "theory" has a very specific definition. Do you know that definition?
     
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