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Featured God loves everyone?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Hammster, Aug 12, 2019.

  1. Jonaitis

    Jonaitis Soli Deo Gloria

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    What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?
     
  2. renniks

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    Christ died once for all.
     
  3. renniks

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    “The greatest sorrow and burden you can lay on the Father, the greatest unkindness you can do to him is not to believe that he loves you.” - John Owen

    Ironic, given your quote at the bottom of your post, if you indeed believe God hates sinners.
     
  4. Jonaitis

    Jonaitis Soli Deo Gloria

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    "In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered." - Luke 2:1

    How many Chinese, Ethiopian, and Indian people were registered?

    "...and you will be hated by all for my name's sake." - Matthew 10:22

    I suppose Christians will hate me too?

    All doesn't always mean all in every sense possible.
     
  5. Jonaitis

    Jonaitis Soli Deo Gloria

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    How was it ironic? John Owen held that God only loved the elect. The quote refers to the believer.
     
  6. Hammster

    Hammster Private Status. Do Not Read. Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    You act as if it’s owed.
     
  7. Ronald

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    1 Peter 3:19 is referring to spirits (fallen angels) in prison (Tararus, the lowest part of Hades), that Jesus pronounced judgment upon. Jesus did not preach to those lost souls in Hades waiting for Judgment - What would be the point - Did He change His mind and give them a second chance? No!
    Remember Hades had two compartments: one filled with the faithless wicked and the other being filled with thise who lived by faith (at Abraham's Bosom). When Jesus died, He released those in Hades,and with the gates of Heaven being open brought them to Paradise. He told the thief next to Him on the cross, "Truly, truly, Today you shal l be with Me in Paradise." LUKE 23:43
    Also 2 PETER 2:4-6; JUDE 1:6,7
     
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  8. renniks

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    No, but God's love is much more vast than you suppose.
     
  9. renniks

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    Were you always a believer? Did God not love you before you were?
     
  10. DamianWarS

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    “For God so loved [those that do not do iniquity], that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

    it seems to have lost it's lustre.
     
  11. zoidar

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    Did Jesus love his enemies?

    A Lutheran friend put it quite nicely. "God loves and hates everyone. He hates us for the sinful nature, but loves us because of the cross of Jesus."
     
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  12. Loversofjesus_2018

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    So wait we’re saying God doesn’t love everyone? I would be interested in the scripture that explains that scripture actually meant mankind and not individual people. Thanks
     
  13. Loversofjesus_2018

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    Does scripture explain that when “all” is used it is being used in a general sense? If you can post that scripture as well I’d appreciate so I can check it out. Thanks.
     
  14. Loversofjesus_2018

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    Can you post scripture that God is talking about mankind and not everyone? Thanks
     
  15. Loversofjesus_2018

    Loversofjesus_2018 Active Member

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    You really believe God is this way?
     
  16. Mountainmanbob

    Mountainmanbob Goat Whisperer Supporter

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    Yes, it's hard for me to believe that God loves the ones who are heading to hell.

    Although for one being called and still breathing
    it's not to late to repent.

    M-Bob
     
  17. Hammster

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    You think it’s owed. You think it would make God unjust to save one and not the other.
     
  18. Loversofjesus_2018

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    Huh?
     
  19. Hammster

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    You forgot about those He abhors.
     
  20. Hammster

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    That doesn’t explain the scripture.
     
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