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God is love. Simple. Is this not the central concept of Orthodoxy?

Discussion in 'The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox' started by AureateDawn, May 6, 2013.

  1. AureateDawn

    AureateDawn Love & Peace

    Other Religion
    "God is love." - 1 John 4:16

    Would you say that this is the central concept of Orthodox Christianity? In my recent struggles, I have found extremes, including in my own perception and thought processes. Whether Orthodox, pagan, spiritual, whatever - people debate details. This extraterrestrial and UFO information vs this. This patristic father said this, another said this. Is gay a choice, were we born with it, what is sexuality at all? I'm OCA but leaning ROCOR, etc. Anything at all, and large deals are made out of small ones.

    Everything, everywhere, is so detail oriented! I don't understand it. Why debate, quote, cite, and argue for small details?

    To me, God is love. Just... love. Spread love. Love everyone. Make the world to be as close to Heaven as you can. Bring Heaven with you wherever you walk, and love everything.

    Everything seems to be simple: Don't sweat the details, live your life to the fullest, love everyone, spread love and peace. Why worry about anything else? Why make life complicated? To me, it all simply boils down to love and joy. Spread these things. Cultivate them. Why the nonsensical details?
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  2. Lukaris

    Lukaris Orthodox Christian Supporter

    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    Yes, God is love as St. John tells us in his 1st epistle & St. Paul defines love in 1 Corinthians 13 & that is where the challenge to be loving is in trying to confess our own sins & forgiving the sins of others. I believe we can see the Beatitudes in Orthodox Christians, other Christians, & non Christians, avoid the pitfalls of syncretism, & trust God.
  3. Cappadocious

    Cappadocious Well-Known Member

    Eastern Orthodox
    In Relationship
    What is love?
  4. michaeldimmickjr

    michaeldimmickjr Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me.

    Eastern Orthodox
    2 observations:

    1. Details are not a bad thing. Without them, it's easy to create a god that isn't God.

    2. Even atheists love.
  5. rusmeister

    rusmeister A Russified American Orthodox Chestertonian

    Eastern Orthodox
    You're getting a united answer, Justin.
    Most people have the foggiest notion of what "love" is in our time. (Have you read Lewis's "The 4 Loves" yet?) They twist it to mean things that are not love at all, and seek, not a heavenly father, but a senile heavenly grandfather, smiling inanely at whatever people happen to want to do.
    Unless love also includes tough love, which needs LOTS of details to deal with what is wrong in us.
    The Beatles sang "All you need is love". But they might as well have sang "All you need is air", and most atmospheres known to us are poison. People wind up thinking literally that all you need is oxygen, but even oxygen in the wrong proportions will kill us.

    The modern words for "love" are deadly to us unless we acquire the ancient understandings, above all, of agape.
    Last edited: May 8, 2013
  6. A New Day

    A New Day Newbie

    Archbishop Anastasios of Albania:

    Saint John of Kronstadt:

    Saint John Chrysostom:

    Saint John of Kronstadt:

    Saint Clement of Alexandria:

    Saint Makarios:

    Saint Basil the Great of Caesarea:

    Saint Augustine of Hippo:

    and finally Saint John of Kronstadt:

  7. A New Day

    A New Day Newbie

    wow. Amen
  8. ArmyMatt

    ArmyMatt Regular Member Supporter

    United States
    Eastern Orthodox
    this is true. most confuse infatuation with love, and they are not the same. love, at least the best definition I have heard, is doing to the highest good of the other at the sacrifice of the self. it is NOT, some warm and generic feeling of goodness.