God does not love everyone and the Bible says so (Change My Mind)

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As I said earlier, I believe He’s saying that they won’t be held against us.

You referenced Romans 4 earlier.

7 "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered;
8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin." - Romans 4:7-8

That’s what is in mind in the Isaiah passage. It’s not that God has divine amnesia.

He said He “wouldn’t remember”. He said that. God, in first person is recorded as saying He won’t remeber.

And, Beautiful scripture! How could the perfect and Holy ONE allow us access to Him if He didn’t zero the ledger and “not remember”?

Isaiah 43:25 and Romans 4 go together like Peanut Butter and Choclate!

Praise God for the Beauty of Scripture and how it binds to itself with the Holy, Loving, unquestionable Integrity and Honesty Of our Holy Savior! (Isaiah 43:11 + Luke 2:11).
 
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“Remember”, above ALL books, Isaiah has God declaring things in literal YHWH (Tetragrammaton) First person.

Those words are written in solid IRON.

There can be zero posit of what God is declaring, except what God declares.
 
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“Remember”, above ALL books, Isaiah has God declaring things in literal YHWH (Tetragrammaton) First person.

Those words are written in solid IRON.

There can be zero posit of what God is declaring, accept what God declares.
I was just working on my final study notes on the power of God's promises today.....amen what He says He does...end of story...what He promises is guaranteed...amen
 
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Jesus revealed this in parable.

One man depends on his standing with God in prayer while another cries out in agony for God to have mercy on a sinner like Him.

God Incarnate places the repentance first and specifically showed one of the two men went home “justified”.

I’m certain you remember the passage?

This is Jesus Christ giving context to this confusing matter.

Because He is the Scriptural Authority (Call no man teacher, Matthew 23:8), we can soundly refer to His usage of the word repent.

There is no theological question that only one of the two men repented.
Nothing in that passage states he was justified by repentance.
 
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huh? what does that have to do with what I said please....if you quote my post I expect you to respond to what I said not to some mysterious claims...
Okay. Do you have a bible that has a record of, say, David’s sins?
 
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Nothing in that passage states he was justified by repentance.

Nor did Jesus Christ spell out who went home justified for the listeners.

Why do you think He “chose” to do that, in your opinion?
 
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Okay. Do you have a bible that has a record of, say, David’s sins?

In my opinion, and this is simply my opinion, John 5:39 declares Jesus is what the Bible reveals.

What is written for us in scripture is not “God”. What I mean is, if I author a book, I am not the book.

We learn Who the Living God is from scripture, but scripture, though God Breathed and infallible, “Is not God”.

Surely there’s a distinction between the two?

Yes?

No?
 
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He said He “wouldn’t remember”. He said that. God, in first person is recorded as saying He won’t remeber.

And, Beautiful scripture! How could the perfect and Holy ONE allow us access to Him if He didn’t zero the ledger and “not remember”?

Isaiah 43:25 and Romans 4 go together like Peanut Butter and Choclate!

Praise God for the Beauty of Scripture and how it binds to itself with the Holy, Loving, unquestionable Integrity and Honesty Of our Holy Savior! (Isaiah 43:11 + Luke 2:11).
Not remembering and not counting are the same idea.

I’m baffled over the thought that there are some who think an omniscient God can actually not know something.
 
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Nor did Jesus Christ spell out who went home justified for the listeners.

Why do you think He “chose” to do that, in your opinion?
Scripture is clear, all the way back to Genesis, that we are justified by faith. James is clear that there’s a difference between a said faith, and faith in action.

This man was showing faith in action.
 
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Not remembering and not counting are the same idea.

I’m baffled over the thought that there are some who think an omniscient God can actually not know something.

I understand what you are saying.

However, the temple curtain was in place to keep sinful beings from approaching God.

Since Jesus Christ is the same today, yesterday and forever, and we know the pre-Incarnate Christ is what we know from the Old Testament as the physical presence of God. Hebrews says; “Glory”. We know that something has changed that allows mankind to repent and step before the Almighty.

Shoot! He even hears prayers of those that don’t understand the theological theorem but reach to Him of a contrite Spirit born of overwhelming circumstances.

Back to the point.

If God symbolically dwelled behind the temple curtain, though He left 400 years earlier in scripture than what I’m about to refrence, what did the temple curtain being ripped in two symbolize in terms of access to God?
 
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Scripture is clear, all the way back to Genesis, that we are justified by faith. James is clear that there’s a difference between a said faith, and faith in action.

This man was showing faith in action.

How can one have faith in a God they Need if they are too stubborn to admit they “Need Him”?

Does not Repent mean “Change of mind”, as Sin means “Miss the Mark”?
 
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In my opinion, and this is simply my opinion, John 5:39 declares Jesus is what the Bible reveals.

What is written for us in scripture is not “God”. What I mean is, if I author a book, I am not the book.

We learn Who the Living God is from scripture, but scripture, though God Breathed and infallible, “Is not God”.

Surely there’s a distinction between the two?

Yes?

No?
That didn’t answer my question. Did you accidentally quote the wrong post?
 
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I have had death experiences and it seems like there is no ubrupt stop. You just keep walking.

I am not sure what that means when you have spent your life walking away from God.

But I do know that although he gives you the free will to reject his love, He still loves you.
 
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I understand what you are saying.

However, the temple curtain was in place to keep sinful beings from approaching God.

Since Jesus Christ is the same today, yesterday and forever, and we know the pre-Incarnate Christ is what we know from the Old Testament as the physical presence of God. Hebrews says; “Glory”. We know that something has changed that allows mankind to repent and step before the Almighty.

Shoot! He even hears prayers of those that don’t understand the theological theorem but reach to Him of a contrite Spirit born of overwhelming circumstances.

Back to the point.

If God symbolically dwelled behind the temple curtain, though He left 400 years earlier in scripture than what I’m about to refrence, what did the temple curtain being ripped in two symbolize in terms of access to God?
I have no idea what that has to do with the quoted post.
 
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Okay. Do you have a bible that has a record of, say, David’s sins?
That didn’t answer my question. Did you accidentally quote the wrong post?

I disagree.

You were intelligently showing that sins are recorded in the Bible to prove God “CAN’T” “Not Remember” Sins.

I answered with this.

In my opinion, and this is simply my opinion, John 5:39 declares Jesus is what the Bible reveals.

What is written for us in scripture is not “God”. What I mean is, if I author a book, I am not the book.

We learn Who the Living God is from scripture, but scripture, though God Breathed and infallible, “Is not God”.

Surely there’s a distinction between the two?

Yes?

No?

What God remembers and what is written in scripture doesn’t have to be congruent, if He says He “Doesn’t Remember”.

Which He did in first person YHWH.

Did Isaiah or God record it incorrectly?

Is that your position?
 
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How can one have faith in a God they Need if they are too stubborn to admit they “Need Him”?

Does not Repent mean “Change of mind”, as Sin means “Miss the Mark”?
How can someone need Someone they don’t believe in?
 
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In my opinion, and this is simply my opinion, John 5:39 declares Jesus is what the Bible reveals.

What is written for us in scripture is not “God”. What I mean is, if I author a book, I am not the book.

We learn Who the Living God is from scripture, but scripture, though God Breathed and infallible, “Is not God”.

Surely there’s a distinction between the two?

Yes?

No?

How can someone need Someone they don’t believe in?

Even the demons “believe” and tremble.

Thus, “WhoSoEver” “believes” is clearly a different belief than acknowledging He exists.
 
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Not remembering and not counting are the same idea.

I’m baffled over the thought that there are some who think an omniscient God can actually not know something.
and yet when I said not remember you read not remember when you read the same words in scripture you interpreted them as not holding it against us....what is the difference when we are talking about the same thing...iow's the context is the same so what then makes the two different interpretations in your mind?
 
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