Giuiliani's hired goons arrested

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Trump’s Watergate Burglars, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, Just Got Arrested

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The campaign-finance charges involve Parnas and Fruman allegedly violating federal law by funneling several million dollars to Pete Sessions, a former House Republican from Texas. Sessions was valuable to their operation because he publicly demanded the firing of Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador (who was subsequently fired.) Lachlan Markay detailed the connection between Parnas, Fruman, and Sessions earlier this week.

But ultimately, the campaign-finance violations are a small part of their overall plot. Parnas and Fruman were the rough equivalent of the Watergate burglars. A July profile of the two, by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, creates the distinct impression that both men are goons. Not violent goons, but people who specialize in highly unethical or illegal activity that may involve organized crime.

Parnas and Fruman were working with Rudy Giuliani, who represents the two as their lawyer, to encourage various Ukrainians to investigate Trump’s opponents in Ukraine. Their work initially focused on discrediting the Mueller investigation, and later evolved to include pursuing unsubstantiated allegations against the Biden family. At the same time they were advancing Trump’s agenda, they were working on a side hustle in which they tried to push Ukraine’s state-controlled energy sector to sign them up to export liquid natural gas. The gas proposal appears to be their payoff: They could let Ukraine know they represented Trump, and Ukraine would therefore have an incentive to throw some business their way, despite their lack of expertise in the inner workings of the energy business.

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The Wall Street Journal reports Fruman and Parnas had lunch with Giuliani yesterday, before their arrest at the airport with one-way tickets to leave the country. This might be taken as more reason to suspect that the men charged with carrying out Trump’s foreign policy in Ukraine had a less than innocent state of mind.​
 

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I can't agree with the OP title. First, I'd rather wait for evidence of what exactly occured between them and Giuliani. It will be interesting if they make a deal in exchange for testifying about their dealings with Mr. Giuliani.

Second, they don't appear to be Giuliani's hired stooges; rather, from the charges, it would appear they are the "stooges" of a Russian Oligarch. If there does end up being a conspiracy with Giuliani, I think it is more likely they will be found to be co-conspirators.
 
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Trump’s Watergate Burglars, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, Just Got Arrested

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The campaign-finance charges involve Parnas and Fruman allegedly violating federal law by funneling several million dollars to Pete Sessions, a former House Republican from Texas. Sessions was valuable to their operation because he publicly demanded the firing of Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador (who was subsequently fired.) Lachlan Markay detailed the connection between Parnas, Fruman, and Sessions earlier this week.

But ultimately, the campaign-finance violations are a small part of their overall plot. Parnas and Fruman were the rough equivalent of the Watergate burglars. A July profile of the two, by the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project, creates the distinct impression that both men are goons. Not violent goons, but people who specialize in highly unethical or illegal activity that may involve organized crime.

Parnas and Fruman were working with Rudy Giuliani, who represents the two as their lawyer, to encourage various Ukrainians to investigate Trump’s opponents in Ukraine. Their work initially focused on discrediting the Mueller investigation, and later evolved to include pursuing unsubstantiated allegations against the Biden family. At the same time they were advancing Trump’s agenda, they were working on a side hustle in which they tried to push Ukraine’s state-controlled energy sector to sign them up to export liquid natural gas. The gas proposal appears to be their payoff: They could let Ukraine know they represented Trump, and Ukraine would therefore have an incentive to throw some business their way, despite their lack of expertise in the inner workings of the energy business.

...

The Wall Street Journal reports Fruman and Parnas had lunch with Giuliani yesterday, before their arrest at the airport with one-way tickets to leave the country. This might be taken as more reason to suspect that the men charged with carrying out Trump’s foreign policy in Ukraine had a less than innocent state of mind.​
Trump's Campaign manager, Paul Manafort, had extensive dealings in Ukraine and 25 indictments against him. He is in jail. Muehler indicted or got guilty pleas from over 30 people involved in the Trump presidential campaign. Roger Stone is still on trial. He met with WikiLeaks during the Russian hacker scandal.

Giuliani, Trump and soliciting a bribe from a foreign official. These guys did not stop making trouble. Am not sure how these Ukrainians fit in, but they do not seem innocent as they were trying to get out of town fast with the law on their trail.
 
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I wonder who else is sitting at that table, at least two I think. The mirror behind Giuliani is reflecting a woman's face that appears to be sitting directly across from him and there's a drink in a tall glass on the table.


...the investigation is still ongoing.
 
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Giuliani associates arrested while trying to board international flight with one-way tickets, prosecutors say

Giuliani told Fox News that he represents Parnas and Fruman on a separate matter

--That's right folks, the personal lawyer for the president of the USA has Ukrainian citizens as clients on the side.

He added that he "will reveal relevant facts very very shortly.

--Nice to see Giuliani contributing to the Real Soon Now files.

Giuliani, a personal attorney for Trump, said he finds it "extremely suspicious" that the arrest was made in connection with an FEC matter that has yet to be resolved,

--Right, because usually arrests are made after cases are resolved and settled. Because that's how it actually works.

and which Giuliani said is a civil matter.

--Quick quiz question to my fellow posters, please let me know, in microseconds, how long your personal lawyer would remain your personal lawyer if he told you he thought federal campaign violations were a civil matter.
 
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Every new thing I read is better than the thing before.

Giuliani associates arrested while trying to board international flight with one-way tickets, prosecutors say

Giuliani told Fox News that he represents Parnas and Fruman on a separate matter

--That's right folks, the personal lawyer for the president of the USA has Ukrainian citizens as clients on the side.

He added that he "will reveal relevant facts very very shortly.

--Nice to see Giuliani contributing to the Real Soon Now files.

Giuliani, a personal attorney for Trump, said he finds it "extremely suspicious" that the arrest was made in connection with an FEC matter that has yet to be resolved,

--Right, because usually arrests are made after cases are resolved and settled. Because that's how it actually works.

and which Giuliani said is a civil matter.

--Quick quiz question to my fellow posters, please let me know, in microseconds, how long your personal lawyer would remain your personal lawyer if he told you he thought federal campaign violations were a civil matter.
It looks like Trump was trying to shake down Ukraine. Giuliani’s two Ukranian associates have been accused of funneling money from Ukraine to Republican campaigns. MSNBC showed a photo of the two arrested Ukrainians sitting at a table with Trump’s son. It is an organized crime syndicate.
 
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Thank God for NY State and the Southern District. Trump can't obstruct them as easily, and so they are able to get to the truth more quickly.

Although I'm still wondering how Epstein managed to.commit suicide in that high security federal prison in NY.
 
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