Giuiliani's henchman spills on their scheme. Also implicates Pence.

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The corruption is getting harder for the conservative media to lie about, yet they persist.

Giuliani associate told Ukrainians to investigate Bidens, lawyer says

Parnas' lawyer confirmed to Fox News that his client told Ukrainian officials that Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the swearing-in of the new president and the United States would freeze aid to the Eastern European nation if the demands were not met.​
 

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If Mike Pence has already decided not to be there, he has no respect at all for any Democratic candidates. This is a bad attitude to have for the second-most important man in America.

I believe, from what I recall reading in the Whistleblower report, it was Trump that ordered Pence not to go -- that prior to Trump's order they VP's office had planned the trip and were ready to go.
 
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The corruption is getting harder for the conservative media to lie about, yet they persist.

Giuliani associate told Ukrainians to investigate Bidens, lawyer says

Parnas' lawyer confirmed to Fox News that his client told Ukrainian officials that Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the swearing-in of the new president and the United States would freeze aid to the Eastern European nation if the demands were not met.​
Wow. Giuliani is going to sing.
 
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There is no scenario in which Rudy Giuliani keeps his trap shut for Trump.

I don't think I'll able to feign any feelings of sympathy when Trump then runs the bus over Rudy, as will invariably do à la Cohen.
 
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That would be a blessing.

I do agree. I would like to see some good conservative candidates that are not associated with the president. The downside to that is if they supported any of the things that the president did, like taxes or shutting down the border etc. the will be attacked non-stop by the left and media. Even if they don't act like Trump.
 
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I believe, from what I recall reading in the Whistleblower report, it was Trump that ordered Pence not to go -- that prior to Trump's order they VP's office had planned the trip and were ready to go.

I think that's right, so I think this particular wrinkle does NOT implicate Pence (in the sense of knowing anything about the scheme). But the day ain't over, and his name has been mentioned in other connections to all this.

(And I still have a tiny hope that Flynn did not lie to Pence, but Pence did lie to the American people.)
 
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