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Getting people fired??

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Lifelong_sinner, Sep 11, 2021.

  1. Subduction Zone

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    People constantly misunderstand what "Freedom of speech" is. Politically one can say anything one wants without government repercussion. That is all that it means. A place of business can fire someone for things that they do during their time off. If they do something that reflects badly on the company they are usually within their rights to fire that person.
     
  2. ArmenianJohn

    ArmenianJohn Politically Liberal Christian Fundamentalist

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    No, they are absolutely not equivalent in meaning. They are very different, and practically opposite in meaning. Details are particulars, specific facts. An idea is a general, vague notion. One can have an idea without knowing details. Based on your own description in your own words we have an idea albeit no details of this story.

    Who was looking for a scapegoat anywhere in the story from the OP or this discussion thread? This whole thing has nothing to do with scapegoats at all.

    Good for you! Not sure why you are stating this and why you are accusing me of "conflating prejudices with facts" when I've done no such thing. Between this and your scapegoat remark it looks like you may have meant to respond to some other post and accidentally responded to me instead.
     
  3. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    If I act a fool. I don't do it in front of cameras, or on profile pages. Just here. Laughing at a teen losing a mom or grandma. Because they're to brain washed against mask. Why would a hospital or doctors office be okay with this? She might be not wearing a mask in front of her consumers, or doing other things that aren't safe. Which isn't okay. She prove she's doesn't care. And that's a big problem, when it comes to consumers. I've been vaccinated and still wear mask with my consumers.
     
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  4. RDKirk

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    That's actually true in 49 states.
     
  5. RDKirk

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    So she got a slap on the hand and all is well and she'll know better next time.

    Next issue....
     
  6. RDKirk

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    A nurse laughing as someone relates the story of his grandmother dying of disease is just poor public optics for a company. All the nattering about the details of her death is irrelevant.

    When someone is relating their story of a loved one's death, no hospital wants to see their employee laughing about it. That does not relate to the "caring" image every hospital is trying to project. It's bad customer service. It's like a an employee giving a customer the middle finger.
     
  7. TLK Valentine

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    Hogwash.

    I don't know the details regarding 9/11 -- the exact type of aircraft used, the names of the hijackers, the number of dead and wounded -- but it would be absurd to say I have no idea.
     
  8. cow451

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    You're fired. Your attitude isn't what we want here.
     
  9. RestoreTheJoy

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    We do not know HOW this woman was infected (details, who the carrier was, anything). We DO know - as I already stipulated - that Someone (pre, post, un jabbed) who had the virus transmitted it to her.

    That is all we know, no matter how you try to split hairs.

    The scapegoat narrative is obvious: even the kid blamed "an unmasked person" - which may or may not be reality at all as he has no idea, but there was a narrative to push.
     
  10. RestoreTheJoy

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    Agree with this, that one should never laugh while a kid is talking about his grandmother's death, regardless of reason, employee, friend, relative, whatever.
     
  11. RestoreTheJoy

    RestoreTheJoy Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, you do know the method used to cause death and damage. We saw the planes crash into the buildings.

    You do NOT know all the details and none of us did when it happened.
     
  12. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    And if one is callous enough to do so, not to be surprised at unpleasant repercussions...
     
  13. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    That's right -- but you bet your blessings I have an idea...
     
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  14. ArmenianJohn

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    OK so here you are stating that we don't know details and then you go on to state that we do have an idea since "We DO know - as [you] already stipulated - that Someone Someone (pre, post, un jabbed) who had the virus transmitted it to her."

    It's not splitting hairs to point out the important distinction between knowing details and having an idea. You went from stating that knowing details = having an idea to now admitting that we do not know details yet we have an idea. I identified this earlier and it was an important distinction evidenced by the fact you just made this distinction yourself (albeit having conflated the two in your earlier posts).

    Looking for and identifying a cause is not scapegoating, nor a scapegoating mindset, nor a scapegoating narrative. For example, it's not scapegoating to identify the cause of the spread of other diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, etc. but it is necessary in order to come up with solutions to the spread of those diseases. It's no different with Covid.
     
  15. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Is that your biggest takeaway from this thread?
     
  16. RestoreTheJoy

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    Again with the distortion as if I am off base, when I am not.

    This goes directly to the crux of the issue here: DID the woman laugh BECAUSE grandma died, as those who are gleeful that she was fired are asserting?

    And the answer is we don't know. She smiled and shook her head slightly, then looked over at someone in the next chair. That's it.

    "This time last year, my grandmother, who was a former teacher at the Rutherford County school system, died of COVID because someone wasn't wearing a mask," Knox is heard saying.

    At this point a maskless woman, dressed in a black dress, sitting on a chair behind him was seen smirking and shaking her head at the statement. The woman was holding a placard which read, "Let our kids smile."

    Speaker continued: "This is an avoidable issue and by not wearing masks in schools, it's irresponsible. We're killing people. This is not something that we should be doing for the education of our students,"

    So, cancel culture Twitter did its thing and went after the woman to get her fired and humiliate her as much as possible, because she "smirked and shook her head". https://twitter.com/SoftRobot3/stat...en-over-grandmothers-death-due-covid-19-60169

    Watch it; she shakes her head and smiles in frustration that the kid believes Grandma died because someone didn't wear a mask. You can see it on the video. And the truth is that we don't know this. A masked person could have given it to Grandma. Grandma could have been exposed in the hospital by any number of health care workers. Grandma could have had 10 comorbidities.

    We have no facts, but that doesn't ever stop a certain segment of leftists from doxxing and hysterically promoting penalties because someone has an OPINION the harasser does not like - the nurse didn't DO anything. She did not slug the kid, or assault him, or try to get him kicked out of school, or threaten him or dox him.

    The dox and cancel behavior is pretty much the purview of a narrow band of miscreants always attempting to cancel the opinions or non-criminal actions of others, as follows:

    "Her name is Erika Casher. She works at Cigna. She should be fired for being such a vile and heartless scumbag."

    And they are off: Soon there were calls demanding the termination of Casher from Cigna. "Hey @cigna, why is your employee Erika Casher laughing at this grieving young man who is 10 times as smart and 10000 times as human as she is? And why is she still your employee? #BoycottCigna," tweeted a user.

    "Hey @Cigna what are your thoughts about this woman, Erika Casher, one of your case managers in Tennessee, laughing at a kid telling an audience about the tragic loss of his grandmother due to COVID? Pls respond," wrote another.

    Now if she got up and slugged him or pulled a gun, then the police would take care of it. But this doxing and harassment over OPINIONS that differ from other opinions has GOT to stop.

    I’ve done some digging…there are rumors the woman, Erika Casher was quietly fired from Cigna and put her house up for sale…but I can’t confirm anything!! (Normal people call that gossip).

    Nick Sandmann won a huge settlement from CNN from this kind of distorted gossip about him smiling at the older man banging the drum who was actually assaulting him.


    Erika Casher: Has Cigna Fired Employee Mocking Teen Over Grandmother's Death Due to Covid-19?

     
  17. TLK Valentine

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    A perfectly appropriate response when a child speaks of a dead relative... have it your way.
     
  18. RestoreTheJoy

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    Nonresponsive deflection.

    Have it your way.
     
  19. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Deflection of what?

    Woman shows callousness when empathy is preferred -- an especially bad choice when said woman is a nurse.

    Actions have consequences.
     
  20. loveofourlord

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    Nurses are the face of the hospital, they are the ones your more likely to see, they may not want that image shown, if I had a nurse or doctor that was acting that way to those dying of a disease that's definitely not condusant of someone who is supposed to have bed side manners.
     
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