Geocentric Early Church Father Quotes (Long Read)

[Dkh587]

I find it kinda sad that some people’s reasoning is “well, that’s just what they knew at the time when they wrote about it”, yet these same people I assume would believe that the Set-Apart Spirit inspired the Prophets and guided them on what to write.

As if the Set-Apart Spirit conveniently forgot to correctly guide them on describing the skies and land and the “universe”.

 

[prodromos]

I will post one more photo i took actually last night, of Jupiter, actually this photo was captured from a video recording i made of Jupiter.

In the recording the lights around Jupiter (that science states are moons) can clearly be seen in my recording are stars. Their movement matches the other stars in the sky.

But this photo shows the star (right side toward the top corner) next to Jupiter the large light star.

Wish i could post the video so the movment of the little star could be seen.

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How long did you film for?
You do realise that the moons are not going to move any discernible distance relative to Jupiter in the space of an hour. You would need to take one image every night for several weeks and then play them back as a stream of images to see them orbiting the planet.

 

[JacksBratt]

These photos say it all, 200 missing miles of distance between the red bull jump and the iss, which is suppose to be 250+ miles up in the sky.

Red bull jump 20 miles high
iss 250+ miles high

But they show approximately the same distance above the earth.

20 to 30 miles is more than likely the highest man can go up, if that far.

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red bull
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Any NASA or other "accepted" photos from high altitude are taken with a fish eye lens. This way there will always be a curve.... even if you are still on the ground.

 

[Chris V++]

If you've been up in an airplane you can see the curvature of the Earth. You can see the ISS zip by in the night sky with the naked eye if you know where to look.

 

[d taylor]

How long did you film for?
You do realise that the moons are not going to move any discernible distance relative to Jupiter in the space of an hour. You would need to take one image every night for several weeks and then play them back as a stream of images to see them orbiting the planet.

My point of the post is not that these lights do not move.

My point is that when i filmed Jupiter that the science labeled moons are not moons but stars.

These lights, shine their light, exactly like other stars do when i have filmed them.

There is no difference in the lights that accompany Jupiter, than the other stars in the sky. Their light shines the same.

If anything the star Jupiter is closer to being similar to the moon and its light. When the moon is filmed/photographed. When filmed/photographed at a distance the shinning of the moon is seen, but when zoomed in the light is not as visible. Like Jupiter when i filmed/photographed Jupiter at a distance to get the lights in the picture, Jupiter shines brightly but when zoomed in the pattern can be seen.

Jupiter and its light

moon and its light

 

[Dkh587]

If you've been up in an airplane you can see the curvature of the Earth. You can see the ISS zip by in the night sky with the naked eye if you know where to look.

I disagree - I flew to Hawaii from Atlanta(a 10 hour flight) in November, and I never saw a curve. I was looking for one the whole time. All I experienced and saw was a flat earth. Never went upside down or sideways or any other way. Just flew across the earth until I got to my destination.

 

[d taylor]

Any NASA or other "accepted" photos from high altitude are taken with a fish eye lens. This way there will always be a curve.... even if you are still on the ground.

Jack and notice how much the curve is

 

[d taylor]

You could put the video on YouTube and post a link?

I will look into that try to today.

 

[JacksBratt]

If you've been up in an airplane you can see the curvature of the Earth. You can see the ISS zip by in the night sky with the naked eye if you know where to look.

Actually.. you cannot. NASA used to state that you could see it from 35,000 feet. However, it is now stated that you need to be much higher...

Even Neil DeGrass Tyson said it's impossible for us to see the curve in any civilian aircraft.

Could this be due to the fact that now that the FE is a re surging phenomenon, people are actually looking for the curve and find it is not visible or measurable.?

 

[Chris V++]

I disagree - I flew to Hawaii from Atlanta(a 10 hour flight) in November, and I never saw a curve. I was looking for one the whole time. All I experienced and saw was a flat earth. Never went upside down or sideways or any other way. Just flew across the earth until I got to my destination.

So suppose you kept flying west over and past Hawaii for 60 more hours. Where would you end up if the Earth is flat? Would you fly off the Earth?

 

[JacksBratt]

Jack and notice how much the curve is

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The real observable, measurable and repeatable evidence that started me to question the earth that we live on... was the simple fact that we see things that are too far away for us to be able to see on the globe, if the globe is the size that they say.

The earth curves, roughly, 8 inches per mile squared. This formula works for so far out until the curve would be straight down and then underneath... But, for all intents and purposes, for what people are going to use it for.. 8 inches per mile squared.

That is a fairly rapid drop. It puts things in sight, that should, mathematically be beyond the curve.

I'm not convinced that the earth is flat... I am convinced that it is not a sphere the size that they say it is.
Proof of this is that there is not a measurable curve. They do not calculate it for bridges, canals, roads railways or anything in surveying.

 

[JacksBratt]

So suppose you kept flying west over and past Hawaii for 60 more hours. Where would you end up if the Earth is flat? Would you fly off the Earth?

OK Chris V++. It is obvious that you are new to the FE debate. Check out a couple of vids on YouTube and maybe check out Mark Sergent, Eric Dubay and Rob Skiba.

Your questions are FE 101. No offense, we all start by going "you've got to be kidding me".

 

[A Realist]

No offense, we all start by going "you've got to be kidding me".

...which is exactly what those of us who aren't paranoid conspiracy theorists think about the flat earth nonsense.

No offense.

 

[d taylor]

Ok finally got this to youtube after my slow computer took 3 hrs+. Not sure how clear this is on the computer, on my camera it can be seen clearly.

The stars of Jupiter that science tells you the lie they are moons

 

[prodromos]

My point of the post is not that these lights do not move.

My point is that when i filmed Jupiter that the science labeled moons are not moons but stars.

These lights, shine their light, exactly like other stars do when i have filmed them.

There is no difference in the lights that accompany Jupiter, than the other stars in the sky. Their light shines the same.

If anything the star Jupiter is closer to being similar to the moon and its light. When the moon is filmed/photographed. When filmed/photographed at a distance the shinning of the moon is seen, but when zoomed in the light is not as visible. Like Jupiter when i filmed/photographed Jupiter at a distance to get the lights in the picture, Jupiter shines brightly but when zoomed in the pattern can be seen.

Jupiter and its light

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moon and its light

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The so called "twinkling" of the stars is the effect of viewing any "point" light source through our atmosphere. It makes no difference whether that "point" of light is a direct source like a distant star, or reflected light like a tiny moon. It doesn't matter how clear the sky is when you are viewing, as constant variations in the density of our atmosphere through which the light is passing, causes tiny distortions which appear to us as "twinkling". Images taken by the Hubble space telescope do not suffer from this problem as it is outside our atmosphere.
Why do stars twinkle, but planets don’t? | EarthSky.org

 

[JacksBratt]

...which is exactly what those of us who aren't paranoid conspiracy theorists think about the flat earth nonsense.

No offense.

Why would you be "paranoid"?

There's nothing to be fearful of. If it's flat... or round.... how much is it going to mean to you.. other than your pride?

 

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