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Genesis 1 Again

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Doveaman, Oct 12, 2011.

  1. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    -Jesus had some wine. When served everyone agreed it was good. Some said it was a few minutes old, others said it was aged perfectly. "The Best" they said.
    -Jesus caused a man to get up and walk. Some said he walked as if he had never been lame. Others said these were the first few steps he had ever taken.
    -Jesus raised a man from the dead. Some said he was alive. Many said he was never dead to start with.

    The point being that "Science" does not usually agree when God works HIS will in our realm. If so, then your examples of agreement would be the exception to the rule.
     
  2. SkyWriting

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    The Strong Concordance says "whales" means dinosaurs.
    But not Wales.
    Or wails.
     
  3. Nostromo

    Nostromo Brian Blessed can take a hike

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    No, man was created on the sixth day. The Jewish day runs from sunset to sunset, so "the evening and the morning", are the sixth day, not the last part of the sixth and the first part of the seventh.
    Come on man, it shouldn't have to be me telling you that He rested on the seventh day.
     
  4. AV1611VET

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    Evidently, you can't sort through the ... facts [sic] without Strong's Concordance to help you -- and believe me -- that speaks volumes.
     
  5. cupid dave

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    The point was that Whales is an error in translating from the Hebrew.

    The word in Hebrew means some animal more like dinosaurs.




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  6. Huram Abi

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    You still haven't answered in which day they were created, and that was the point.
     
  7. Huram Abi

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    Btw, the Mesozoic era occurs in the Phanerozoic Eon, which, according to the useful scientific divisions, is the 4th (or last) period.
     
  8. Nostromo

    Nostromo Brian Blessed can take a hike

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    Highlighted the significant part.
     
  9. Doveaman

    Doveaman Re-Created, Not Evolved.

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    This is what happens when we rely on science to interpret Scripture.
     
  10. artybloke

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    Nobody does. When we call it a story, then we know that the best way to interpret it is as a story.

    Science doesn't come into it, because it isn't science, it's story.
     
  11. cupid dave

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    The way the Theistic Evolution Bible explains it is like this:


    6. Mesozoic Era ("evening" = Cretaceous)-

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    to the Cenozoic Era ("morning" = Tertiary)

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    = Six Day


    7. Cenozoic Era ("evening" = Quarternary)-

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    to the Common Era ("morning" = Stone Age)

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    = Seventh Day
     
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  12. FreeinChrist

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    Mod hat on:
    This thread was reviewed by staff and underwent a clean-up; many posts were deleted. Please do not flame each other and do not post against Christianity as this is a Christian forum per the Rules quoted bellow.



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  14. Doveaman

    Doveaman Re-Created, Not Evolved.

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    I believe the creation events in Genesis 1 are literal, historical events that occurred in six days and in the exact order just as described. My theory does not change the events or the order of those events. It simply offers a logical explanation of how those events might have occurred.
    I’m not so sure we know that. The word “made” in verse 16 is not the same as the word “created” in verse 1.

    The word “created” has the meaning of something being originally formed, such as “In the beginning God “created” the heavens and the earth”.

    The word “made” can have the meaning of something being formed out of something else, such as a commercial bus being “made” into a private bus.

    The bus already existed but was “made” to serve different purpose.

    The sun and moon could have already existed but were “made” to serve a different purpose on day four.
    The universe (including the earth) as described in verse 1 was created from nothing.

    The narrative then moves from a universe created from nothing in verse 1 to a formless and empty earth in verse 2.

    The six day creation events that followed were created from that pre-existing universe that was created from nothing.

    The universe was created form nothing and the six day creation events were created from that universe.
    It also shows there I no need for the conflict between old agers and young agers.
    I think what they are saying is that the earth did not exist before the universe.
    Cheers.
     
  15. dad

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    OK. I think I see your position somewhat.
     
  16. cupid dave

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    The Bible must mean "made" the authority over the Solar Clock, as the Hebrew word itself implies:


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  17. cupid dave

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    Yes, I agree with you both.

    people like Bill Mahr mock the Bible when they insist that "made" means the Sun and Moon were not part of the Gen 1:1, when the Heavens were "created."

    But church people need yo hear this point of view because they most all use the word incorrectly.
     
  18. Huram Abi

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    Bill Maher mocks the bible, but not by qubbling over semantics and words that are synonymous.

    I think you brought him up as a way to polarize the issue, pinning "them"(those that disagree with you) as "bible bashers" instead of making a clear and sound argument for your position.

    How does Bill Maher have anything to do with this issue?
     
  19. dad

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    Seeing his position does not mean I agree with it, or Bill. My belief is that creation week was a real week. Nothing in the bible indicates otherwise, unless one sets out to weld it into line.
     
  20. Huram Abi

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    :thumbsup:

     
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