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Fukushima Daiichi Site: The End of the Age?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Paxton25, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. Paxton25

    Paxton25 Forgiven

    Japan’s former Ambassador to Switzerland, Mr. Mitsuhei Murata, was invited to speak at the Public Hearing of the Budgetary Committee of the House of Councilors on March 22, 2012, on the Fukushima nuclear power plants accident.

    Before the Committee, Ambassador Murata strongly stated that if the crippled building of reactor unit 4—with 1,535 fuel rods in the spent fuel pool 100 feet (30 meters) above the ground—collapses, not only will it cause a shutdown of all six reactors but will also affect the common spent fuel pool containing 6,375 fuel rods, located some 50 meters from reactor 4. In both cases the radioactive rods are not protected by a containment vessel; dangerously, they are open to the air. This would certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced.

    He stressed that the responsibility of Japan to the rest of the world is immeasurable. Such a catastrophe would affect us all for centuries. Ambassador Murata informed us that the total numbers of the spent fuel rods at the Fukushima Daiichi site excluding the rods in the pressure vessel is 11,421.

    Fukushima Daiichi Site: Cesium-137 is 85 times greater than at Chernobyl Accident » Akio Matsumura
  2. Ronald

    Ronald Newbie

    "The name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter." Rev. 8:11
    It's interesting that Chernobyl means wormwood. It is clear that this may be more of a disaster than we imagined. A couple weeks after the incident, the news cut the story and we didn't hear much about it because it was freaking people out ... I suspect they were ordered to do so. You have to search for info about it and Japan has been tight-lipped about it from the start.
  3. Zarink

    Zarink Newbie

    The great tribulation has begun. The radiocative poisioning is spreading and nothing known to man can stop it. Yes it will effect all the water on earth.
    "It is no exaggeration to say that the fate of Japan and the whole world depends on NO.4 reactor. This is confirmed by most reliable experts like Dr. Arnie Gundersen or Dr. Fumiaki Koide."
  4. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    What's an independent (i.e. non-prophetic-website) source for this claim? (Honest question, not an attack)

    Rev. 8:11 may not be referring to Chernobyl, or to a future Fukushima disaster, but to a comet which will strike the earth (Rev. 8:10-11), possibly in the U.S./Canadian Great Lakes region. As the comet falls from the sky it will look like a great star, or like a burning lamp in the sky (Rev. 8:10). It will strike a region of the earth which contains a third of the world's fresh surface water (Rev. 8:10b), and it will contain some poisonous element which will poison that third of the world's fresh surface water so that many who drink from it will die (Rev. 8:11b).

    Or, hopefully, a way will be found to prevent any future disaster at Fukushima, for no scripture requires one.
  5. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    Not yet. For the tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18 will begin with a horrible war, which, with its aftermath of famines and epidemics, will end up killing a fourth of the world (Rev. 6:4-8). The "great sword" of this war (Rev. 6:4) could be Israel's nuclear weapons. After that, there will be a terrible series of natural disasters historically unprecedented in their magnitude, such as a gigantic volcanic eruption (Rev. 6:12-14), possibly of the Yellowstone Caldera, and then the collapse into the ocean of another volcano (Rev. 8:8-9), possibly one of the Canary Islands, the collapse of which could set up a huge tsunami which could destroy the Eastern seaboard of the U.S. If such a tsunami occurs, it could cause a string of awful, Fukushima-style nuclear-meltdown radiation disasters in the nuclear power plants and their nuclear-waste storage facilities along the Eastern seaboard of the U.S. Also, if the tsunami breaks open the germ-containment structures on Plum Island, just off the coast of Connecticut, especially-deadly viruses and bacteria could be washed inland and spread across the U.S. as they infect animals and people.

    After the volcanic activity and possible tsunami, (as was pointed out in the previous post) a comet will strike the earth (Rev. 8:10-11), possibly in the U.S./Canadian Great Lakes region. As the comet falls from the sky it will look like a great star, or like a burning lamp in the sky (Rev. 8:10). It will strike a region of the earth which contains a third of the world's fresh surface water (Rev. 8:10b), and it will contain some poisonous element which will poison that third of the world's fresh surface water so that many who drink from it will die (Rev. 8:11b). After that will come a one-two punch of what the world could initially try to interpret as being two different alien invasions, the first "aliens" being weird locust-like beings which will suddenly swarm up from the bottomless pit of the earth to torment mankind with excruciating stings for five months (Rev. 9:2-10). They will be led by a fallen angel named Abaddon (Rev. 9:11). The world could see the weird locust-like beings coming up from the ground as aliens who had been hibernating for thousands of years in a cavern deep underground. The locust-like beings won't kill anyone, but they will make those they sting want to die the pain will be so bad (Rev. 9:5-6).

    After the locust-like beings have stung mankind for five months, an army of 200,000,000 weird horse-like beings will come upon the earth and kill a third of mankind (Rev. 9:16-19). This army will be led by four powerful fallen angels who will be released from being bound at the Euphrates river (Rev. 9:14-15). If the army of horse-like beings descends from the sky in spaceships, the world could see them as a different race of aliens, but the Antichrist could (falsely) say that they're the main army of YHWH. In fact, the army could be loyal to Lucifer/Satan instead. The four fallen angels could employ the army to make mankind completely desperate before its complete takeover by Lucifer (the dragon) and the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) mid-tribulation (Rev. 12:9-13:18).
  6. gracechick

    gracechick Senior Veteran

    Thank you Bible2 for your informative posts. You've obviously spent much time in study and research of Revelations and endtime events. Where do you see the rapture of the Church fitting in among the wars, endless disasters and demonic onslaught.
  7. Fiona01

    Fiona01 Guest

    I checked out the link, read some articles... this is truly scary stuff.

    They mention that if an earthquake occured, it would spell major worldwide disaster.

    Bad news!
  8. zeke37

    zeke37 IMO...

    after the tribulation of those days.
    post trib.
  9. josephearl

    josephearl Friend

    Mass Extinction Event
    A recent new article used this term, or a close approximation of it, in speaking of the tragic events that have been ongoing at Fukushima Japan. Here is a brief synopsis of my yearlong research and thoughts on this:

    Japanese culture is long noted for its loyalty to company and country. Thus the recent warnings by Japans former ambassador to Switzerland Mitsuhei Murata are even more alarmimg as truth is often covered up to protect money and honor. He has stated that the Fukushima reactor unit #4, barely standing after the explosions which followed the tsunami of 2011, if it collapses will "...certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced."

    On just this one TEPCO sight there is enough Cesium-137 to destroy the world enviroment and our civilization. Japan would be uninhabitable, many islands of the Pacific would be unihabitable, and the west coast of the North American continent would be uninhabitable. It would destroy the entire northern hemisphere of the planet. Experts are saying that Unit 4 "...may not be able to withstand a 7.0 earthquake and Japan is the land of earthquakes having a prime location on the ring of fire."

    If this unit collapses there are nuclear physicists, you can't fool them with government lies, who are prepared to move their families to the southern hemisphere as prevailing winds would eventually carry the contamination everywhere north of the equator. Arnie Gunderson, a man who built these things and is a true expert on the matter, just returned from Japan. While in Tokyo he took several random soil samples. Upon testing all were deemed so radioactive that special disposal was required under US guidelines.

    The Tokyo Electric Power Company, TEPCO, has been covering up the severity of this with I believe the assistance of their government, the US government, and who knows what others.

    This event dwarfs Chernobyl, which has been attributed with over a million deaths, and still counting, since its fire. If the 1535 fuel rods end up on the ground at Fukushima the level of radiation would be so high a human could not survive near it long enough to do any work that might remove these tons and tons of radiaoactive fuel rods. Stored in close proximity to the building are another 6375 rods in the common spent fuel pool. These are less then 200 feet away. It would be impossible to do anything with them and that they would soon be exposed to air and burn also is a distinct possibility! We are not even mentioning the other reactors which would be inaccessible by humans in this scenario. Radiation levels would be so intense that electronics are destroyed by it thus making even robotics unusable. The rods are so volatile that exposure to air causes them to erupt into flames and release their deadly plutonium and other elements into the atmosphere. They have to be kept under water and that is the real danger if the unit falls to the ground.
    We are in trouble and few are sounding the alarm!

    For one I am thinking that the Lord cleansing the earth with fire may have a direct relationship to severe nuclear contamination. Then there is the matter of the new earth having no oceans and the possibility that unit 4 will destroy the Pacific and eventually the other oceans if the worst case scenario occurs is another thought.
    “therefore thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, “behold, I will feed them, this people, with wormwood and give them poisoned water to drink.” (Jeremiah 9:15, NASB95)
    “The third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters.” (Revelation 8:10, NASB95)

    As you know 'star' is a metaphor having as one meaning angel or messenger. Perhaps it isn't taking the metaphor to far outside of context to think we have a subtle message from the Lord here using Russia's tragedy/judgment of Chernobyl as a type of forerunner to this far greater Japanese event and its ramifications for all of us.

    On the other hand....

    We do see that the earth is burned up the earth and the Lord totally recreates it. That would be necessary if the whole northern hemisphere was soaked in over a thousand radioactive isotopes and elements including plutonium, which Fukushima has the potential to do. How would one cleanse a radiated and destroyed planet? By burning up the elements and starting over!!!

    “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.” (2 Peter 3:10, NASB95)

    Then knowing that the Lord often prophesied with a near and a far application being integral to the prophetic word I bring to mind this.
    Chernobyl has as its translated meaning wormwood. Wormwood is found mentioned in one place in the Bible.

    “The name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter.” (Revelation 8:11, NASB95)

    Notice the effect of the drinking the water infected with bitterness was death and that one third of all the water on the earth is so infected! This is in agreement with the Pacific ocean being lost due to radioactive, especially plutonium, contamination and many of our fresh water supplies would also be undrinkable for the same reason. (I have also heard prophetic words over the years bringing forth the idea that water will be very expensive and in short supply in the future.)

    The words of the Prophet Jeremiah come to mind also
    “therefore thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, “behold, I will feed them, this people, with wormwood and give them poisoned water to drink.” (Jeremiah 9:15, NASB95)

    The Japanese are indeed drinking a bitter cup, a cup that may overflow its sorrow unto all the nations of the earth. Some Japanese are noted for their love of drinking alcohol in excess and the national honor given to the blossoms of the cherry tree and its brief moment of loveliness, an event that oft inspired Samurai poets before they went off to war is well known. In light of this I find these words of the Prophet Isaiah both haunting and grim...

    “Woe to the proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim, And to the fading flower of its glorious beauty, Which is at the head of the fertile valley Of those who are overcome with wine! Behold, the Lord has a strong and mighty agent; As a storm of hail, a tempest of destruction, Like a storm of mighty overflowing waters, He has cast it down to the earth with His hand.” (Isaiah 28:1–2, NASB95)

    Love ya, here is a link for the wormwood Chernoybyl link although they are not hard to find...

    Is Chernobyl Wormwood | odds and ends
  10. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    The rapture won't happen during the trib, but immediately after it (Mt. 24:29-31, 2 Thes. 2:1-8). That's why the marriage of the church doesn't happen until Rev. 19:7, in connection with Jesus' 2nd coming and the physical resurrection of the church at that time (Rev. 19:7-20:6, 1 Cor. 15:21-23,51-53, 1 Thes. 4:15-16). Mt. 24:30-31 is referring to the same 2nd coming of Jesus and gathering together (rapture) of the church as 2 Thes. 2:1, which is referring to the same 2nd coming of Jesus and catching up together (rapture) of the church as 1 Thes. 4:15-17.

    Jesus won't return and gather together (rapture) the church until sometime after there's a falling away (an apostasy) in the church and the Antichrist (the AC) sits in a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaims himself God (2 Thes. 2:1-4, Dan. 11:31,36, Mt. 24:15-31, Rev. 11:1-2, 13:4-8), and the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the AC) is set up in the holy place of the temple (Mt. 24:15-31, Dan. 11:31). For when Jesus returns to gather together (and marry) the church he'll destroy the AC (2 Thes. 2:1,8, Rev. 19:7,20). Before Jesus returns, the church will have to go through the future, literal 3.5 years of the AC's worldwide reign (Rev. 13:5-10, 14:12-13, 20:4-6, Mt. 24:9-31). At Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Thes. 4:15, 2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30), the church will be resurrected and caught up together/gathered together (raptured) (1 Thes. 4:16-17, 2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:31), not to remove the church from the earth (Prov. 10:30, Jn. 17:15,20), but to take the church only as high as the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with the returned Jesus (1 Thes. 4:17).

    At that meeting, Jesus will judge everyone in the church (Ps. 50:4-5, cf. Mk. 13:27) by their works (2 Cor. 5:10, Rom. 2:6-8, Lk. 12:45-48, Mt. 25:19-30) and then will marry in the clouds the obedient part of the church (Rev. 19:7-8, Mt. 25:1-12), those in the church (of all times) who "overcame" (Rev. 3:5), before they mount white horses and come back down from the sky (the 1st heaven) with Jesus (Rev. 19:14) as he defeats the AC (the individual-man aspect of the beast) and all the unsaved armies of the world (Rev. 19:15-21). Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Rev. 19:9 for the resurrected and married obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isa. 25:6-9, 1 Cor. 15:54). Jesus and the obedient part of the church will then reign on the earth for 1,000 years (Rev. 20:4-6, 5:10, 2:26-29).

    Amen. Philip. 1:6 does mean that God will complete the work he's begun in saved people. But other passages show he'll do this only if they continue to cooperate with him and work along with him (1 Cor. 3:9, 2 Cor. 5:9, Col. 1:29, Philip. 2:12, 3:12-14), and don't wrongly employ their free will to, e.g., become utterly lazy without repentance, to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Mt. 25:26,30, Jn. 15:2a, Rom. 2:6-8).
  11. Bible2

    Bible2 Guest

    That brings to mind Mk. 13:20.

    Mk. 13:20 can mean that if the Lord hadn't already shortened (as in "he hath shortened": Mk. 13:20) the number of days, hadn't already determined (from the beginning of Creation, cf. Isa. 46:10) that he would return on the 1,335th day after the abomination of desolation is set up (Dan. 12:11-12, Rev. 16:15) -- which 1,335th day would be immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt 24 (Mt. 24:29-31), immediately after the worldwide destruction of the 7th vial (or bowl) (Rev. 16:19, Rev. 19:2-20:6) -- but instead had determined to just let the world suffer through the aftermath of the 7th vial, then all flesh on the earth would die in the aftermath, which could involve a nuclear winter scenario (which the Lord will miraculously prevent at his 2nd coming) brought on by the 10 kings of the Antichrist's empire nuking the cities of the earth at the 7th vial (Rev. 17:16-17a, Rev. 16:19).

    Re: 2 Pet. 3:10-13, in the day of the Lord (the DOTL) will occur the destruction of heaven (the 1st heaven: the sky, the atmosphere) & the earth (the surface of the earth) at the great white throne judgment (Rev. 20:11, 21:1), & this will be followed by the creation of a new atmosphere & surface for the earth (2 Pet. 3:13, Rev. 21:1) onto which New Jerusalem, the Father's house (Jn. 14:2, Rev. 21:2-3), will descend from the 3rd heaven (Rev. 21:2-3). But the DOTL won't immediately bring the destruction of earth's atmosphere & surface, for the DOTL will begin at Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Cor. 1:7-8) as a thief (2 Pet. 3:10a, Rev. 16:15). After his 2nd coming, he'll establish his kingdom physically on the earth with the bodily resurrected church for 1,000 years (Rev. 19:7-20:6, 5:10, 2:26-29). After the 1,000 years, the Gog/Magog rebellion will occur (Rev. 20:7-10, Ezek. chs. 38-39), & after its defeat at least 7 more years will occur (Ezek. 39:9b) before the earth's atmosphere & surface are destroyed at the white throne judgment (Rev. 20:11). All these events, from Jesus' 2nd coming to the white throne judgment, will be part of the DOTL, for it's not a 24-hour day, but to God is like a 1,000-year "day" (2 Pet. 3:8).

    Rev. 8:11 refers to 1/3 of only the world's fresh surface water (Rev. 8:10), not the sea. It's before the 3rd trumpet time of Rev. 8:10-11 that 1/3 of the sea will have already been ruined, at the 2nd trumpet (Rev. 8:8-9), which could refer to an erupting volcano collapsing into the sea (see the "Rev. 8:8-9" part of post #5).